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Trump Wanted to Order Justice Dept. to Prosecute Comey and Clinton

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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 12:59 PM
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Trump is really an unqualified dunce of incredible proportions.

It would be funny if it wasn’t so dangerous having such a foolish, sinister, and clueless person as president.
a reply to: Willtell

Wow, sounds like you are a big fan of these very bias sources. Believe those that agree with you??? And how much rent is Trump paying to dwell in your head? I'm not a fan of your hatred or the other sides either... but apparently you enjoy the game. Well I guess you'll be crying along with the Young Turks again in 2020 when this "Dunce" is re-elected due to the inadequacies of the party and sources you so elegantly cling too. Good luck with being a landlord. I can already here your lack of response and/or real response... save it for the conservatives.




posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: whywhynot
a reply to: whywhynot

BlackJackel says:



Plus, if you go back and examine older news stories that utilized anonymous sources you will find that time generally proves what those sources said as true. So, I have no trouble with anonymous sourcing.


Really? You fabulous news source CNN IS ONLY completely truthful 16% of the time according to this:

www.politifact.com...

The NYTs has issued massive lists of retractions. And then there are the lies that they don’t retract.

www.washingtonexaminer.com...
So your defense that you just have to trust them is deeply flawed. You’d be wrong, as you are on this OP, half the time.

DENY IGNORANCE


Either you are intentionally trying to spin statistics into your favor or you are woefully ignorant.

That 16% stat is from a sample size of 79 statements. Additionally, the 16% is for statements that are 100% true, if you included all the truthful statements you get to 73%.

But I wasn't talking about CNN news coverage was I? I was referring to the use of anonymous sources in print media.

Every news media organization that is worth a damn issues retractions all the time. Many times it is due to simple mistakes and some times it is due to bad information. This is a good thing. This means the news media is admitting they were wrong and correcting their mistakes. It would be far worse if they just stood by their original reporting.

You attempt to make journalistic retractions some sort of nefarious practice. Most of the time a retraction is an honest mistake and very very rarely does a retraction affect the overall meaning of the story. Here is a list of the New York Times retractions. By all means, go through these articles and find some examples of malicious retractions.

New York Times

Again, I will reiterate my point. Anonymous sources is not an indication of fake or phony news. Anonymous sources are a legitimate resource for reporting the truth.

LINK


Hey I gave you a published stat from a know source. You got a better stat from a known source give it.

You are easily distracted by the MSM. That is what they want. Links to Leftest media may have you marching to their tune but not me.

Even by your analysis of getting somewhat truthful statements 73% of the time still leaves tons of untruthful information. AND, whether nefarious or not the info is put out there for the unquestioning to believe.

They got you hook line and sinker.



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: projectvxn

because he was told he would be impeached if he did.
Seems to me he is already on that path anyway.


Alot of things are seemingly about to happen as far as you're concerned. Too bad for you that none of those things are so.



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 01:59 PM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: jhn7537

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: watchitburn

DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THE PRESIDENT CANT TELL THE DOJ TO INVESTIGATE HIS POLITICAL RIVALS

NO ONE DOES THAT, Nixon tried it and we know what happened to him

He can suggest that but even that would be looked at as a potential major issue.

They do that in Banana republics. That's what Trump has descended to


You call them political rivals.. While I call them traitors to this country..


Doesn't matter what you call them. You could call them purple space aliens and they will still be political rivals.


I disagree... A political rival used to be two rival politicians, who stood on opposite ends of the aisle and ran campaigns against one another w/ one winning and one losing. that's a political rival.... What obama and his administration did was not some simple political rivalry. they broke the law countless times, they politicized agencies within his admin and did numerous illegal acts that could be called "traitorous"..



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

This isn't a democracy and he has the absolute right to order the DOJ and any other ABC agency under his command. Yes, they are directly under his command.

Tell me, who is in charge of the Exec branch again? Now, what branch are those agencies under? That's right, the executive.

And again, keep your disgusting "democracy" to yourself. No one wants that mob rule horse#

This isn't a democracy, never has been never will be. It is a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. I challenge you to produce the word "Democracy" in either the Declaration of Independence OR the Constitution. You can't. Because it doesn't exist.

This is not a disgusting/worthless mob rule democracy

"Democracy" is a failed/dead concept, and a failed ideology. Democracy is the lowest of the low. Our CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC is designed to prevent Democracy (AKA mob rule)

Democracy would permit 99% of the population to impose its will on 1% - a totally unacceptable condition. Tyranny by majority and all that. Hence why you won't be able to ever ban our free speech, our unconditional access to military firearms or our unchallenged unalienable individual rights as American Citizens.

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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 02:53 PM
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Disgusting democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on dinner.

Patriotic Republicanism is a heavily armed lamb rejecting the wolves' democracy by upholding its individual rights irrespective to the "democratic" decision made by the wolves.

I challenge any person to produce even one mention of the word "Democracy" in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution.

You can't because it isn't there. This isn't a Democracy

Meanwhile, read up on Article IV Section IV US Constitution


Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.


"The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government"

^Not socialist, not communist, not "Democracy" - REPUBLICAN only. Anything LESS is un-Constitutional (and yes, democracy is FAR LESS/LOWER/worse - the lowest of the low)
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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 03:00 PM
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He doesn't need the DOJ/courts to prosecute Clinton, Comey, et al.

During the Bush years, the Executive was granted broad unilateral discretionary authority to designate certain extreme threats to national security as "Unlawful enemy combatants" permitting their immediate rendition, detention and a special military tribunal.

This is the route our President should take to round up and imprison our Constitution's many domestic enemies. Whether they are eventually convicted or not, 6-8 years of being held in a CIA black site is enough to scare the corruption/communism/socialism (synonymous terms) right out of our many enemies.

Take the gloves off, Mr. President. Bypass the corrupt/activist/severely overreaching courts entirely. Hold the hearings in a friendly allied nation if needed. But the severely infringing/overreaching courts must be taken out of the equation entirely. There simply aren't enough pro-Constitution America loving Judges yet to ensure the Constitution is applied exactly as written without interpretation

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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 03:04 PM
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BS NYTimes story debunked and coddled 😆

All washed up 🚬💨



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

The scary part is these idiots actually think having government agencies with police powers that aren't accountable to their own boss is a good thing... These agencies need rounded up, held accountable and made fully compliant with their superior's oversight. These ABC agencies need put in their place severely.

Idiotic leftists. You couldn't pick a group that is more wrong-headed, incorrect, wrong, completely wrong.... They aren't just wrong, they miss the mark entirely. A 4 year old could come up with better ideas than leftists.

They not only missed the civics lesson, but they are seemingly completely clueless about government in general. They really believe the state is a distinct entity not beholden to elected leadership don't they? How stupid.... how moronic... how more-wrong can they get? I can't imagine how, but I suspect they can go much lower

Making some popcorn, looking forward to watching them implode by their own stupid ideas, wrong beliefs and poor not-thought-out choices.

THANK GOD American children are learning about goofy feminism, goofy racism, goofy socialism and goofy leftism instead of stuff that actually matters, like Civics & Government
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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme


Every report says he made the request and was told NO.


Those reports are wrong.

POTUS has absolute authority to command the DOJ (and any other ABC agency under his command). He has the authority to dissolve those organizations as well.

Exec branch = executes the laws of the Union. The President is solely charged with this duty, which he carries out through the executive branch 'agencies' he created. An AGENT is merely someone acting on behalf of another person.... Agents of the FBI, for example, are appointed by the President to assist the President in carrying out his duty to execute the laws passed by Congress.

So the stories/reports have that much wrong.

Further, as President, he has total authority to initiate prosecution without the DOJ.

Finally, as a private Citizen, he also has unchallenged authority to make an arrest and make a criminal complaint. Every American Citizen has this right and duty. The conditions for making an arrest vary depending on the jurisdiction, but generally speaking a private citizen may arrest another person when:

1) An individual commits a misdemeanor that also constitutes a breach of the peace in the arresting Citizen's presence (ie: a witnessed breach of the peace)
--or--
2) The arresting Citizen has evidence that an individual committed any felony which need not be witnessed in person by the arresting Citizen.

^^*The arresting Citizen may use reasonable force as necessary to effect the arrest

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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal


Wow, you surprised me. I didn’t think you had it in you but apparently there is a spark in there.

I was completely unaware of the probe into the Clinton Foundation. I was wrong when I said there are no investigations into Clinton. Good job you proved me wrong.


What is amazing is that before you admitted that you were indeed wrong, you had to preface it with more insults.

I've already answered the rest of your questions.



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 07:39 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: M5xaz

The only people that agree with you are trump cultists like you.
There as dense as you are…

You have a reason block in your thinking. Outwardly you appear to be sensible but inside is a raging fire of massive ignorance



Will,

Severe projection issues on the ignorance front.
I gave you the US code legal reference that covers the felony perpetrated by Hillary. This is a legal issue, nothing to do with your childish, uninformed Trump comments.

Where is YOUR sourced reference?
**NONE** except for your butthurt drivel.

Petreaus got prosecuted under this very statute for security violation involving just a few paper classified documents
Hillary had hundreds, possibly thousands of classified documents on the multiple servers she used, each unsecured.

The law is equal for and applies to everyone, even Hillary.
If Petreaus was prosecuted, so must be Hillary.

Even if you head is stuck far up Hillary's ass....

Deny Ignorance
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posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 07:26 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Sillyolme

You're just being willfully ignorant.

They found the top secret documents in her emails which were on her server. They just didn't charge her because they are corrupt.

If you had done what she did, you would have been prosecuted and you would be in prison for the rest of your life.


Can you please provide a source for any of that? One that does not set off my tin foil hat detector, obviously.
I'm beginning to despair of this site. The double standards are astonishing and the level of delusion (whilst ignoring far more worrying information about the dumpster fire that has been the Trump 'administration') and hatred for Hillary Clinton is breathtaking.


Comey's press conference in Aug of 2016.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: watchitburn

DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THE PRESIDENT CANT TELL THE DOJ TO INVESTIGATE HIS POLITICAL RIVALS

NO ONE DOES THAT, Nixon tried it and we know what happened to him

He can suggest that but even that would be looked at as a potential major issue.

They do that in Banana republics. That's what Trump has descended to


And yet Obama used the CIA and FBI to wire tap and record his political rivals........lmao you guys......


DOJ confirms no evidence supporting Trump claim Obama wiretapped him
www.usatoday.com...





WASHINGTON — The Justice Department confirmed in a court filing there is no evidence that Trump Tower was targeted for surveillance by the Obama administration — contradicting President Trump's controversial claim first made in March




Publishing articles based on stale or incomplete information is the hallmark of today's "news".

Call me when it's over.




posted on Nov, 23 2018 @ 03:15 AM
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originally posted by: FlyingFox

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: watchitburn

DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THE PRESIDENT CANT TELL THE DOJ TO INVESTIGATE HIS POLITICAL RIVALS

NO ONE DOES THAT, Nixon tried it and we know what happened to him

He can suggest that but even that would be looked at as a potential major issue.

They do that in Banana republics. That's what Trump has descended to


And yet Obama used the CIA and FBI to wire tap and record his political rivals........lmao you guys......


DOJ confirms no evidence supporting Trump claim Obama wiretapped him
www.usatoday.com...





WASHINGTON — The Justice Department confirmed in a court filing there is no evidence that Trump Tower was targeted for surveillance by the Obama administration — contradicting President Trump's controversial claim first made in March




Publishing articles based on stale or incomplete information is the hallmark of today's "news".

Call me when it's over.



Given the lack of evidence (despite some of the frothing at the mouth allegations from some people on this thread) you'll have a long wait.
(Rolls eyes at part of the thread)



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
Learn how to backtrack or stay out of the conversation. Please.

You might actually make a little more sense if you quoted the specific text you are responding to.

Or... not... on second thought, you probably do that on purpose to make it harder to discern just how illogical and irrational your comments are.

Never mind...



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: FlyingFox

Indeed. Things are heating up. Many "truths" to be revealed between now and the end of this year.



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn




Alot of things are seemingly about to happen as far as you're concerned. Too bad for you that none of those things are so

Why too bad for me? At the end of the day this doesn't affect me. It will affect trump.
Are these more things that you think arent happening?
Manafort lying to Mueller... again.
Possible ( Probable ) indictments for Roger Stone, Jerome Corsey and Julian Assange about to be unsealed.
It certainly seems that there's a little something going on right now.
I even hear rumors that Mueller may be getting ready to release his report.



posted on Nov, 27 2018 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

and you are right... got it.

give me a break buddy.



posted on Dec, 5 2018 @ 10:14 AM
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I don't know that I agree about Clinton, his motives are wrong but he is right that she should be prosecuted.




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