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originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Enigma Publius
Punishing people with death doesn't stop them from committing crimes. Never has, never will.
In this country we have a giant fetish with violence in our media. You can show people being blown away on tv and no one bats an eye. It should not be normal to watch people die, even if it's fake, and say, "this is entertaining". We should be horrified each and every time.
IMHO, you wanna fix the mass shooting problem. We need to change what people watch. If anyone dies in a movie or show. It needs to be rated r. show blood and realistic shooting. rate it x. Killing other humans should not be entertaining. It just desensitizes us to it.
originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Enigma Publius
Punishing people with death doesn't stop them from committing crimes. Never has, never will.
In this country we have a giant fetish with violence in our media. You can show people being blown away on tv and no one bats an eye. It should not be normal to watch people die, even if it's fake, and say, "this is entertaining". We should be horrified each and every time.
IMHO, you wanna fix the mass shooting problem. We need to change what people watch. If anyone dies in a movie or show. It needs to be rated r. show blood and realistic shooting. rate it x. Killing other humans should not be entertaining. It just desensitizes us to it.
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Enigma Publius
Um yeah... I highly doubt the threat of harsher penalties would have any effect on the rate of mass shootings.
Since the kind of people who generally carry out mass shootings, usually intend on being dead themselves by the time its over... or they're so far gone, that they really haven't given much thought to the prospect of 'what comes next', in the first place.
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: grey580
That has, other than in a very limited sense, little to no effect on these sorts of events. MHO, of course.
I've watched violence on TV, and in movies, my entire life, beginning with Gunsmoke, through the current John Wick franchise of movies...add to that I'm a past victim of bullying, and you'd think I'd have gone postal a long while back. Hasn't happened, not even the remotest temptation--even in the darkest, blackest moments of anger--occurred.
No, it's something else that's the key trigger. I suppose it's possible that a particular movie/program could be a deciding factor...Taxi Driver/John Hinckley/Jodie Foster, as an example.