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originally posted by: Violater1
originally posted by: infolurker
What do you get when you cross extreme corruption and gun control. You get Mexico (and surely much of Central and South America).
This is why we will hold on to our god given rights of self defense because it can and will happen. Especially with the up tick in corruption and lawlessness we have seen in the last decade in the United States.
Thought provoking article to say the least. When people have to make casts of their teeth so they can be identified because they know criminals or criminal police are coming for them and they cannot defend themselves.
'It's a Crisis of Civilization in Mexico.' 250,000 Dead. 37,400 Missing.
Some 37,000 people in Mexico are categorized as “missing” by the government. The vast majority are believed to be dead, victims of the country’s spiraling violence that has claimed more than 250,000 lives since 2006. The country’s murder rate has more than doubled to 26 per 100,000 residents, five times the U.S. figure.
Because the missing aren’t counted as part of the country’s official murder tally, it is likely Mexico’s rate itself is higher.
The killing and the number of missing grow each year. Last year, 5,500 people disappeared, up from 3,400 in 2015. Mexico’s murders are up another 18% through September this year.
Victims’ families, mostly mothers, organize search parties, climbing down ravines or scouring trash dumps. Their technique is crude. Sometimes they hire laborers to hammer steel rods into the soil and haul them up to see if they smell like decomposition. Other times, they simply look for an exposed body part or shallow grave.
The sheer numbers of the disappeared now rival more famous cases of missing people in Latin American history.
And to make matters worse. Many of these are done by "agents of the state"
The main reason for not reporting is fear of reprisals by judicial authorities, criminals, and police, especially municipal police, who in many parts of Mexico collude with criminal gangs. The entire municipal police force in Acapulco was recently suspended on suspicion of cooperating with local gangs. Mexico’s navy now patrols the port city.
“In more than a third of all disappearances, the perpetrators are identified as agents of the state,” said Karina Ansolabehere, a researcher at México’s National Autonomous University, citing studies of some 1,500 disappearances in the border states of Nuevo León, Coahuila, and Tamaulipas. The studies draw from testimony by relatives of the victims who were able to identify the kidnappers.
I'm shocked that only a few have read this OP.
Ten years ago, this would have generated more interest. Sad to see the de evolution.
originally posted by: Inconceivable
Wow. That is really bad and heartbreaking.
Perhaps if those caravans with the thousands upon thousands of capable, able bodied people-(especially the Males between the ages of 18-35 who are the majority), would only stand up for their own country and fight to get rid of all of the lawlessness like countless other citizens of other countries including the USA have done in the past, we wouldn't be hearing these kinds of stories.
Legalizing & regulating drugs in the US is the only way to stabilize this situation...
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
a reply to: Subaeruginosa
So Mexico should want to build a wall
Or just legalize drugs
I really don't think a wall is going to be a deterrent on a nearly half a trillion dollar industry... I doubt legalizing drugs in Mexico would have much effect either, since they would still have to illegally import their product into the US.
The bloody Mexican drug war would just go on as normal.
Seems like its entirely in the US governments hands to end this mess. Legalizing & regulating drugs in the US is the only way to stabilize this situation... imo
The cartels have reached a point where they own legitimate businesses and operations, providing jobs to locals.
They also don't deal strictly in drugs anymore, so its a lame argument. Should we legalize human trafficking?