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A brief look back at the blue wave mid-terms

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posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: Lumenari

Just post a meme. The OP won't be able to decipher it if you catch my drift.
Most leftist can't 🙄




posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Mahogany

Time will tell, no?

Until then, please remember... I don't really care what you think about the subject, because your hopes and dreams don't effect this thing called reality.

But whatever lets you get through your day, I guess...

On that note, you make sure to clean up that bubble you live in, star the few people on ATS that think like you do and have a happy day!



I'll let you in on a secret why I don't take anything you say seriously. I looked through your posting history one evening, real deep like.

You claim to be Native American. You claim you're part of a tribe that I looked up on a map, it is based usually out of Tennessee, but you moved to a northern State. I don't think your actual tribe has a tribe there, but even if it does I have a feeling you are not welcome.

You claimed in a post to be in the oil industry. But you are in a State where Native Americans protested the oil pipeline being built because it was destroying their burial grounds and their drinking water.

I could be completely wrong, wouldn't be the first time in my life, but based on your posts I can only come to the conclusion that you did not stand with your people while they lived in tents for months, but instead stood with the oil industry.

Were you sipping coffee, looking out your large glass window onto your people as they starved and protested the company you work for?

Then I started thinking, when the shock wore off, how similar this is to George Soros. How he went against his own people in order to turn a profit. How much alike Soros you seemed to me at that point.

I could be wrong. Am I wrong?

Did you protest in the tents or did you stand with the oil companies, you Native American, you?



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 02:01 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: BlackJackal

Putting lipstick on the pig again I see.

I am assuming you are adding in your calculations the over 1,000 federal, state and local seats Democrats lost since 2010, as well as taking into account the shrinking of the Democratic base in the last 16 years.


This one had to go back 16 years in order to not accept reality.


"This one"...

How authoritarian of you.
No longer do you see a human being with a difference in opinion. You see an enemy. Could you imagine if a conservative referred to a native American as "this one"? Luckily your ideology protects you from having to apply standards and morals equally. Especially inward...

Thank you for the prime example of why people are starting to question an ideology that wants to manipulate the fabric of our society.



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 02:05 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: Lumenari

Just post a meme. The OP won't be able to decipher it if you catch my drift.
Most leftist can't 🙄


True. But that's not what I was getting at.

Who/what else cannot decipher memes??? 🤔



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

I guess you missed a couple of points about me. And reality. And you suck at using Google.

First, you don't have to live on a Rez to be part of a tribe. Meaning I can leave Tahlequah, Oklahoma.

You know... where the Tennessee Cherokee were relocated in the 1830's.

We called it the Trail of Tears. Look that up!

Shockingly enough, we Native Americans are allowed to live wherever we choose.

Crazy, right?

Secondly, I live in Montana because I was raised in British Columbia and this is the best place I have found in the continental US that is close to the same environment.

Third, I work in the Bakken oilfield in North Dakota.

I've no idea why I can't work in an industry that some other Tribes are not happy with.

I can only come to the conclusion that you, as a good little Progressive, can only see people in groups and not individuals.

Finally, I am actually looking forward to BJ's final analysis because then I can put it together with the monies spent by Pelosi, Cuomo, et all and see their actual return on investment.

Because Democrats are not winning now as much as they are lying, stealing and buying elections.

Which you seem to have no problem with because... By Any Means Necessary, right?

So learn to use google, stalking people makes you look creepy and back to your bubble.



ETA... it has been a really long time since I have read something on ATS as shockingly bigoted as your post.

If that is what the alt-left really thinks about individuals (MUST be a part of your identified collective!!!) then all the more reason to make sure you and yours never EVER get into a place of power where you can force people into your way of thinking.


edit on 18-11-2018 by Lumenari because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: BlackJackal

Putting lipstick on the pig again I see.

I am assuming you are adding in your calculations the over 1,000 federal, state and local seats Democrats lost since 2010, as well as taking into account the shrinking of the Democratic base in the last 16 years.



Is this the best you’ve got? You do realize that Democrats made large gains on the state level as well this election cycle?



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

So you live in Montana? Just a few weeks ago you were living in North Dakota listening to a local radio station talking about the Native American voter suppression. So were you lying then or now?



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: BlackJackal

Putting lipstick on the pig again I see.

I am assuming you are adding in your calculations the over 1,000 federal, state and local seats Democrats lost since 2010, as well as taking into account the shrinking of the Democratic base in the last 16 years.



Is this the best you’ve got? You do realize that Democrats made large gains on the state level as well this election cycle?


You only hurt your own reputation by misleading people. Stop lying.


In 2018, 36 states held elections for governor.

Republicans won 20 of the 36 seats up for election and Democrats won 16. Democratsgained seven seats that were held by Republicans heading into the election, unseating incumbents in Illinois and Wisconsin and picking up open seats in Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Nevada, and New Mexico. Republicans picked up the open gubernatorial seat in Alaska, which had previously been held by independent Bill Walker. Following the election, Republicansheld 27 gubernatorial seats to Democrats' 23.



ballotpedia.org...



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Mahogany
I've no idea why I can't work in an industry that some other Tribes are not happy with.



Crazy how good my instinct is. Thanks for confirming it.

This is why I don't take anything you say seriously. I know that you don't see anything wrong with it, but from now on you are George Soros to me. You will stand against your people to profit with the oil industry.

I find that despicable behavior, even though you don't see anything wrong with it.

It also means that no insult you throw my way has any weight to it.

Cheers!



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

Wow. Despite the assumption drawing, how can you assume that an individual has to act based in your opinion of a collective should do.

To put it lightly, it's stereotyping.

There are other words too...



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

She's an Indian uncle Tom?


Wow.



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 04:36 PM
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Looks like the clinical jealousy is exposing itself 😆

Democrats are still Democrats I see.

They win a few elections and ........................ 🤦



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 06:02 PM
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originally posted by: AgarthaSeed

originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: BlackJackal

Putting lipstick on the pig again I see.

I am assuming you are adding in your calculations the over 1,000 federal, state and local seats Democrats lost since 2010, as well as taking into account the shrinking of the Democratic base in the last 16 years.



Is this the best you’ve got? You do realize that Democrats made large gains on the state level as well this election cycle?


You only hurt your own reputation by misleading people. Stop lying.


In 2018, 36 states held elections for governor.

Republicans won 20 of the 36 seats up for election and Democrats won 16. Democratsgained seven seats that were held by Republicans heading into the election, unseating incumbents in Illinois and Wisconsin and picking up open seats in Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Nevada, and New Mexico. Republicans picked up the open gubernatorial seat in Alaska, which had previously been held by independent Bill Walker. Following the election, Republicansheld 27 gubernatorial seats to Democrats' 23.



ballotpedia.org...


Yeah, the only thing on the ballot at the state level is the governors race. It’s not like there is anything else up for election at the state level at all.

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Also, of those governors races that the Democrats did win, 7 of them were pickups from Republican Incumbents. So, like I said Democrats made gains at the state level.

It appears the only person who looks bad now is you.
edit on 18-11-2018 by BlackJackal because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed

originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: BlackJackal

Putting lipstick on the pig again I see.

I am assuming you are adding in your calculations the over 1,000 federal, state and local seats Democrats lost since 2010, as well as taking into account the shrinking of the Democratic base in the last 16 years.



Is this the best you’ve got? You do realize that Democrats made large gains on the state level as well this election cycle?


You only hurt your own reputation by misleading people. Stop lying.


In 2018, 36 states held elections for governor.

Republicans won 20 of the 36 seats up for election and Democrats won 16. Democratsgained seven seats that were held by Republicans heading into the election, unseating incumbents in Illinois and Wisconsin and picking up open seats in Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Nevada, and New Mexico. Republicans picked up the open gubernatorial seat in Alaska, which had previously been held by independent Bill Walker. Following the election, Republicansheld 27 gubernatorial seats to Democrats' 23.



ballotpedia.org...


Yeah, the only thing on the ballot at the state level is the governors race. It’s not like there is anything else up for election at the state level at all.

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Now I see where this thread came from. Talking points regurgitated verbatim from Axios which are meant to reassure Dems who don't do their research. That's kinda predatory. But either way, let's "correct the record" shall we?

After the elections, who controls 30 out of 50 state legislatures?

Republicans.

Who won more gubernatorial and senate seats?

Republicans.

If Democrat congressmen are removed from office for legal reasons or resign, who appoints their replacement?

Governers.

The more you guys high five each other over the midterms like you won the upper hand, the more comfortable patriots get. 🙂



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

That is 100% correct . The people going back and forth over Trump and dems and repubs are wasting their time . They are one party and do not give a rats ass about the people . If there is a solution to it I don't know what it is .



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

Enjoy it. Dems holding the house gives the GOP all the scapegoats they need to hold the presidency and Senate in 2020 and the crap like the incoming Dems saying they'll spend the next 2 years "resisting" Trump, as well as pushing for new gun control laws, socialist crap, higher taxes, etc provide the GOP with all the campaign sound bytes and attack ad material they need to regain total control in 2020.

The Dems have the smallest amount of authority and control they could possibly have without being minority in both chambers with a GOP press, meaning the cost of their easily predictable screw up and screw jobs will be almost non existent to the American people. Their boners and flubs can and will fail in the Senate or be vetoed by the White House, but the attempts will carry a hefty price for their own party.

I've said it before, in case you missed it, losing the House was a gift to Trump. Regaining it in 2020 will be the ultimate gift. .. a presidency that, to quote Barack Obama, will truly have "a lot more flexibility" to pass his agenda after that win. So yeah, enjoy your pyrrhic victory.



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 10:18 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: BlackJackal

Enjoy it. Dems holding the house gives the GOP all the scapegoats they need to hold the presidency and Senate in 2020 and the crap like the incoming Dems saying they'll spend the next 2 years "resisting" Trump, as well as pushing for new gun control laws, socialist crap, higher taxes, etc provide the GOP with all the campaign sound bytes and attack ad material they need to regain total control in 2020.

The Dems have the smallest amount of authority and control they could possibly have without being minority in both chambers with a GOP press, meaning the cost of their easily predictable screw up and screw jobs will be almost non existent to the American people. Their boners and flubs can and will fail in the Senate or be vetoed by the White House, but the attempts will carry a hefty price for their own party.

I've said it before, in case you missed it, losing the House was a gift to Trump. Regaining it in 2020 will be the ultimate gift. .. a presidency that, to quote Barack Obama, will truly have "a lot more flexibility" to pass his agenda after that win. So yeah, enjoy your pyrrhic victory.


So, I think the chances of Trump making it to 2020 under normal circumstances for a president at less than 10%. It is appearing more and more likely that Mueller has something on Trump, possibly a good bit of stuff. The more crimes Mueller presents evidence linking Trump and his campaign too, the less likely Trump will even make it to the end of this term. It will probably have to be undeniable evidence to convince his supporters to turn against him, but I have faith in the American people to turn against him if he really is guilty.

Also, even if he does serve out the next term without any issues he has already said that he won't pass any legislation if the Democrats launch investigations into him. So, in the next election neither he nor the rest of the Republicans can tell the voters that they accomplished anything for them this past term.

He tried anger as a tactic during this midterm and it backfired horribly on him. That is his only tactic, he won't win again.



posted on Nov, 18 2018 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

I disagree on what was accomplished this term. I have found this presidency far, far more personally beneficial and healthy for my personal finances than Obama or even Bush. I am sure I'm not alone there.



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 04:53 AM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

I like how states that voted Democrat and elected Democrat Senators suddenly become Republican strongholds because they chose Trump over Hillary.



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 04:57 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

My wage increase in just 2 years under Trump was 50% greater than 8 years under Obama. If Trump wins and runs another 6 years my estimated wage increase under Trump will be about a 500% increase.



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