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Brussels tells Theresa May - delaying Brexit will cost UK £10bn

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posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: Freeborn



look at the bollocks Solo consistently posts.

Feel free to point out the bollocks in question.




posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: Soloprotocol


2 newspapers, one front page repeated does not make the media.
Let's see, shall we?

Brexit will start WW3
www.telegraph.co.uk...

Now, it doesn't get crazier than that. We had all sorts, increased risks of asteroids hitting the earth, alien invasion. The entire city of London decamping to Brussels...The economy going into recession.

On the BBC pretty much every positive story has been reported as "In spite of Brexit" while every negative one was "Because of Brexit"


Don't play coy, you watch the same (or similar) news to us This is exactly the same "Sky is falling" stuff trotted out during the Scottish indy ref.

Now we are having rubbish about no medicine, no food, no fuel no...well, no nothing.

Get a grip, if, and its a big if, we have trouble getting hold of something that can't be made here, it isn't because we voted to leave the EU, it will be because during the last 2 years our remainer MP's have wasted all their time trying to fiddle a way to stay in the EU rather than, ooh, say getting hold of the USA or India and saying, hey, how about we lower the import tariffs on medical drugs once we get out of the EU."

Sadly, to the afflicted who are too frightened of any future a little bit different to what they have now, they can't see the truth of what lies before them. You were told Brexit was big, bad and scary and you believed it. Then you sought not to question why your elected representatives were trying to ignore the will of the people, instead you just nodded dumbly as they told you "Nanny knows best" and now here we are.

Brexit isn't the reason for any problems that might occur. Idiot remainers who keep on trying to fight lost battles instead of getting on with their damn jobs are the sole reason.



posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: Soloprotocol

You and all the other Remoaners continually push the lie that racism was the primary reason people voted for Brexit.

It isn't.

I may have some concerns regarding immigration but it most definitely wasn't the main reason I voted to come out of the EU, and the same applies to the vast majority of other people I know who voted for Brexit.
In fact it was among the least of my concerns.

But no doubt you'll continue to ignore first-hand testaments as they go against your pre-conceived bigoted opinions.


edit on 19/11/18 by Freeborn because: grammar and clarity



posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: Soloprotocol



Feel free to point out the bollocks in question.


We've been down this road so many times; you post bollocks, I and other members prove its bollocks and you disappear for a while.
Then you come back and repeat your rabid, anti-English bollocks and....wash, rinse, repeat.

Even people who share some of your less vitriolic ramblings are embarrassed at many of your posts.



posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 01:57 PM
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heres a few from the week leading up to the referendum for you/

mirror 21-06

Star 17-06

Grauniad 15-06

Mirror 23-06

The Scotsman...Just for Solo 21-06

Guardian again 21-06

Independent 23 -06



on top of that, you can listen to pretty much any of the Today shows on Radio four from that time frame, BBC and Sky news "Brexit specials" and a ton more.

No matter how bad it gets, it will never be as bad as these doom mongers said it would be, so what's the problem?



posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 02:46 PM
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We've been down this road so many times; you post bollocks, I and other members prove its bollocks

Go on then, Show where you or anyone else has ever proven what i say is Bollocks. The answer is you havn't

Between this thread and the other on Brexit, it's just an echo chamber for the racists who voted to leave. Not once have any of you ever come up with a good reason to leave the EU. Quite frankly I've never heard as much bollocks in all my life from you lot.

You all try and distance yourselves from the real reason you voted to leave. Immigrants and an inveterate hatred of. everything else is a smoke screen based on nothing.

Maybe you and your ilk showed grow a pair of bollocks and man up and take the responsibility for the mess you have made.

ps, Englanders, please hold a referendum to go it alone for once in your lives instead of sponging from everyone else.
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posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: SprocketUK
Scotsman just for solo.
I see nothing wrong with the headline. Tory mp Liam Fox says once we are out of the EU it gives them the power to deregulate the labour market.

Now Do you understand what he means by this? I do. Do you wish me to spell it out for you?.


Dr Liam fox deregulation remedy.



posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: Freeborn



You and all the other Remoaners continually push the lie that racism was the primary reason people voted for Brexit. It isn't.

Oh yes, it was. Without a shadow of a doubt because every other reason you have all came up with was never mentioned until after Brexit. By anyone on here. As I said, You all hear and read crap printed in the pro brexit media and regurgitate it here like it's fact. All i hear is the sound of Vomit, wind and pish.



posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol
a reply to: SprocketUK
Scotsman just for solo.
I see nothing wrong with the headline. Tory mp Liam Fox says once we are out of the EU it gives them the power to deregulate the labour market.

Now Do you understand what he means by this? I do. Do you wish me to spell it out for you?.


Dr Liam fox deregulation remedy.



Membership of the EU has already messed up the labour market to such an extent that my old union, the RMT fought bitterly to try and prevent British flagged ships from replacing their workers with Eastern European labour.

"
2. Leave the EU to end attacks on seafarers and the offshore workers

The EU has promoted undercutting and social dumping leading to the decimation of UK seafarers. The same is now happening in the offshore sector. EU directives also require the tendering our public ferry services.

3. Leave the EU to end attacks on workers’ rights

It’s a myth that the EU is in favour of workers. In fact the EU is developing a new policy framework to attack trade union rights, collective bargaining, job protections and wages. This is already being enforced in countries which have received EU “bailoutsauce


So as you can see, the lie that the EU is protecting worker's rights is simply that.
Sure, the tories would love to further erode our rights, but so would the EU. To believe otherwise is plain idiotic



Another point, the msm would have you believe that all unions oppose Brexit, this is trotted out by labour remainers often and is simply not true, as you can see above.

The late, great, Bob Crow even went as far as starting his own, left wing pro referendum party before his untimely death, so you need to really understand that Brexit isn't a right wing thing, it's been painted such to fool gullible labour party supporters into supporting less democracy, less wealth and less freedom by trying to overturn Brexit.



posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 04:11 PM
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Membership of the EU has already messed up the labour market to such an extent that my old union, the RMT fought bitterly to try and prevent British flagged ships from replacing their workers with Eastern European labour.

Who owns the British flagged ships replacing workers from Eastern Europe?. Attacks on seafarers and offshore workers?. That's a new one to me. Last I saw was a bit of tit for tat rock and undersizer haddock throwing somewhere off the coast of France or Spain. The way you put it there is an Armada on the high seas firing cannon balls and grapeshot ffs. Pathetic.

You ever wonder why the UK, the 5th richest country in the world has the lowest or second lowest old age pension not only in Europe. Mexico ffs has a better pension scheme. Do you ever wonder why the Bankers were never jailed, but the unemployed and the sick and disabled got the blame for crashing the economy.

Do you ever stop and think, hey, There's Her Majesties troops homeless and begging on the street whilst the government spends £370million refurbing her palace, Do you ever stop and think, £1 billion to refurbish Parliament whilst children starve.
Do you never stop and think, # me, something ain't quite right here. Have you had a look at the UK's debt, have you had a look at the state of the pound. I could go on.

Do you ever stop and think?

Most of you are so brain dead you still think Nuclear weapons have kept us safe for 50 years and Winston Churchill was a Hero.

Let's leave the EU, that'll fix everything.

Can you remember the state of the UK in the seventies before we joined Europe, An absolute #hole. We were known as the sick man of Europe for a reason. Morons.

I despise London Rule, The Tories, and Labour. It's not a clearout we need, it's a trial and subsequent execution. Pay per view would go some way to clearing the debt.



posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 05:03 PM
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Theres a lot there, none of it really addresses the points I made though.

You are conflating the eu fisheries policy with offshore workers and seafarers, two different things.


The sick man of Europe...I remember that, I also remember 3 day weeks. Much of the population believes it was all about unions striking because they got power mad and greedy, whereas the truth of it was it was in a large part down to a lack of investment in our manufacturing sector by greedy bosses.


the hammer didn't truly fall on UK manufacturing until EEC rules started to bite in terms of how governments approached procurement and subsidy of certain industries, That's when most of our manufacturing was trashed by Maggie and her mates.

I don't think you can realistically argue against MAD keeping the peace in the cold war though. if one side or the other thought they could wipe out the other lot with less than total losses in return, we probably would have had WW3 by now, so I reject that.

To be fair, I could, just about see that these days we ought to be safe enough without Trident. We have worked out all the designs for our bombs over the years, so it ought to be feasable to produce a few in a shortish time if the world started getting a bit iffy again...Hell, if Steptoe ever gets elected there's no point having the things anyway as he already said he would never launch, so their deterrent value is zero

the whole rest of your post isn't an argument against Brexit, in a lot of ways its an argument for it, because membership of the eu prohibits us from electing a government who can lower vat on household fuel to help the poorest among us live through the winter for one thing.

Make up your mind, mate, you are either with the people or with the powerful, you cant be with them both.
ETA I like the ppv idea though

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posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 06:58 PM
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Hell, if Steptoe ever gets elected there's no point having the things anyway as he already said he would never launch,

And you see that as a negative??. If we ever have the need to launch nuclear missiles, hundreds of warheads are already on the way to end the life of every man woman and child in the UK. Defensive weapon my arse, it's a £200 billion hideous vengeance weapon and some of you have the cheek to talk about the EU being vengeful? Absolutely mental.



posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 07:39 PM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol



That British flag needs to be a picture of umm... what flag is it for the globalist elites ?

This is the British Deepstate at work

Brexit was described as a once in a lifetime very important vote, it was the biggest democratic vote/election in British history

Leave won

The job then was to prepare for leaving with a remainder at the wheel who did all she could and still can to keep us in the EU, now only with a much worst deal than staying in the EU, it’s incredible stupidity or intensionally trying to derail the train while George Soros and co have been pumping billions into brainwashing and campaigns to get another vote

The UK cannot leave the EU superstate were suppose to merge it with the USA and the rest of the western world once mass immigration destroys their cultures and ultimately their identity as a nation and therefore blarderless country under the UN NWO One World Government control for which their is no escape
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posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 08:46 PM
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I say break all ties and shut off petrol and natural gas from north seas platforms going to Europe then cut off all sovereign English fisheries from European fishing fleets as well as your agriculture goods and military support then let's see how quick the union falls in line Britain has the ability to fend for herself right nicely she has lots of friends and lots of other nations in her commonwealth to trade with Europe . The union has sucked and England's treats to long let them start fending for themselves.



posted on Nov, 19 2018 @ 08:46 PM
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I say break all ties and shut off petrol and natural gas from north seas platforms going to Europe then cut off all sovereign English fisheries from European fishing fleets as well as your agriculture goods and military support then let's see how quick the union falls in line Britain has the ability to fend for herself right nicely she has lots of friends and lots of other nations in her commonwealth to trade with Europe . The union has sucked and England's treats to long let them start fending for themselves.



posted on Nov, 20 2018 @ 03:22 AM
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Go on then, Show where you or anyone else has ever proven what i say is Bollocks. The answer is you havn't


All the points you've raised and rabid anti-English bigotry and hysteria you've spouted from pre-Scottish independence debates onwards have been consistently debunked by various ATS members.



Between this thread and the other on Brexit, it's just an echo chamber for the racists who voted to leave.


Please show me one single racist comment or post I've ever made.

Its a serious accusation, have the balls and proof to back it up....or cease with your lies.



Not once have any of you ever come up with a good reason to leave the EU. Quite frankly I've never heard as much bollocks in all my life from you lot.


I think I have....and you certainly haven't convinced me of the benefits of remaining in the EU.



You all try and distance yourselves from the real reason you voted to leave. Immigrants and an inveterate hatred of. everything else is a smoke screen based on nothing.


Because you are consumed with hatred for the English doesn't mean that others have the same affliction.
Hatred and racism dictates your viewpoint so you assume it must be so with others....it isn't, far from it.
I am anti-EU not anti-European - that you can't understand the distinction says volumes about you.



Maybe you and your ilk showed grow a pair of bollocks and man up and take the responsibility for the mess you have made.


The 'mess' has been made by the utter incompetence of Theresa May and the rest of the Remainers who have done everything possible to derail Brexit and spread absolute nonsense through Project Fear.



ps, Englanders, please hold a referendum to go it alone for once in your lives instead of sponging from everyone else.


So now you are trying to get the English to get you the independence that the majority of Scots don't want.
And when it all goes tits up for your independent Scotland yet again you would be able to blame those bastard English for all of Scotland's woes....truly pathetic.



posted on Nov, 20 2018 @ 03:27 AM
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I find it kind of funny how much a country has to jump through hoops to do what it wants.

It's like seeing people trying to leave the mafia or a bikie gang.

Needs more "blood in, blood out" style comments from all sides.

To think, Britain once almost took over the world, and not that long ago either historically speaking and now they're this. Whatever this is.



posted on Nov, 20 2018 @ 04:07 AM
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It looks to me like 'Soloprotocol' is the racist one, He is rabidly racist toward

the English.... and boy doesnt it show.



posted on Nov, 20 2018 @ 05:03 AM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol
a reply to: SprocketUK



Hell, if Steptoe ever gets elected there's no point having the things anyway as he already said he would never launch,

And you see that as a negative??. If we ever have the need to launch nuclear missiles, hundreds of warheads are already on the way to end the life of every man woman and child in the UK. Defensive weapon my arse, it's a £200 billion hideous vengeance weapon and some of you have the cheek to talk about the EU being vengeful? Absolutely mental.


Why didn't you quote my whole statement regarding trident? I said clearly that I felt we are probably safe enough these days not to need it's deterrence.
I do think it is a monumentally stupid thing for the leader of the country to commit to spending a hundred billion on something that he has stated he will never use.

Deterrence isn't about "revenge" or similar it's about a potential enemy KNOWING that should they attack the UK they will receive devastating riposte that would make their initial attack bloody pointless....The idea being NO ONE LAUNCHES. Do you get it now?



posted on Nov, 20 2018 @ 05:31 AM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol
a reply to: SprocketUK

You ever wonder why the UK, the 5th richest country in the world has the lowest or second lowest old age pension not only in Europe. Mexico ffs has a better pension scheme.



You cant make comparisons like that..... depends very much on cost's of

living in each country, and any extra perks in the pensions package.




The unemployed and the sick and disabled got the blame for crashing the economy.


Did they?? Who blamed them?



Do you ever stop and think, hey, There's Her Majesties troops homeless and begging on the street whilst the government spends £370million refurbing her palace, Do you ever stop and think, £1 billion to refurbish Parliament whilst children starve.



Not her palace.......

If buildings are not kept in a repaired state we will all end up living

in rubble, that goes for public and private buildings.

There is no reason for a child to be starving in this country......

There are more overweight children in the country then there ever

was.... I dont think starving and overweight go in the same sentence!!

STOP with your 'sound bites'



Do you never stop and think, # me, something ain't quite right here. Have you had a look at the UK's debt, have you had a look at the state of the pound. I could go on.



Which country doesn't exist on credit/debt...... and more than half the

countries in the EU are in more debt and in a worse economical state

than the UK!!!



Do you ever stop and think?



Do you ever stop ranting longer enough to think???




Most of you are so brain dead you still think Nuclear weapons have kept us safe for 50 years and Winston Churchill was a Hero.


Patronising much??

And he was ..... YOU would be speaking German now were it not for him

and we wouldn't need to get out of the EU because we would be the EU.




Let's leave the EU, that'll fix everything.


IT WILL FIX AN AWFUL LOT



Can you remember the state of the UK in the seventies before we joined Europe, An absolute #hole. We were known as the sick man of Europe for a reason. Morons.



I CERTAINLY DO ...... and don't see it like you!!!

Like to live thinking that * Problems are only solutions in disguise*



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