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Which Police Force Anywhere In The World Should The British Police Emulate

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posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 05:31 AM
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Perhaps activists would like to nominate a police force anywhere in the world which we in the UK should emulate.
guerillawire.org...

I'm expecting the usual resounding silence to this question.

We've all been subjected to years of negative stories about British police. Hillsborough, Beanfield and Orgreave have all been exposed as anti-constabulary black-ops. Military and Intelligence involved in all of them. Blame heaped on police by the Intelligence controlled joke called the mainstream media.

Can anyone explain why the Orgreave Truth and Justice Campaign will only go this far?

I’d even heard rumours that soldiers were being dressed up in police uniforms to boost numbers.

An assistant chief constable travelled with Manchester officers wherever they were deployed, so I took him aside and asked: “Are there fifth columnists in there?”

He had no knowledge of it happening and I had to believe him.
otjc.org.uk...
" . . . even heard rumours . . . boost numbers . . . had to believe him." Wishy-washy bollocks of the highest order.


The militarised nature of the police tactics on that day
otjc.org.uk...
Pathetic. Miners aren't cowards, but this crap is the product of cowardice.

Beanfield the same. Hillsborough practised for years squeezing them tighter and tighter. On the day, the barrier unexpectedly broke creating a much higher number of murdered fans than predicted, and so a much more potent force of grievers than intended. The grievers were created to be used as a political force against the police.

Plebgate cost Squity Mitchell £380,000.www.bbc.co.uk...

Squit. A small or insignificant person. Diarrhoea.
en.oxforddictionaries.com...

Getting back to the point. Which police force anywhere in the world should the British police emulate?

Perhaps India, where they're all well-cool and spiritual?


Has any anti-British police activist got an answer to the question?

Which police force anywhere in the world should the British police emulate?





posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 05:45 AM
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Ill just leave this here


When I first saw this years ago, I sincerely fell in love with the British Officer Girl @ 1:37. She seems lovely and I love her accent.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 06:51 AM
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originally posted by: Kester
Which police force anywhere in the world should the British police emulate?

I like our cops as they are. Devon & Cornwall constabulary are cool as #, when you see them.
After taking the shift system into account, then sickness, office work and annual leave, there are around 700 constables available to deal with 1.4 million people.
They are vastly under resourced and people police ourselves these days for anything non-major.
I like it as it is and don't actually want more cops, feels more free.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 06:52 AM
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a reply to: Kester

I would like to know where from you got the notion, that in order to fulfil the expectations of the people, the police of our country ought to be emulating any other policing force on Earth. We had the first modern policing force in the world, we damned well invented the notion, the methodology, and the systems which support it. No, the question is not which police force we should be following, or emulating.

The question is actually rather more simple than that, although the answers may be complicated and varied depending on who you talk to.

The question, is what do we want from our police forces.

Now, I can answer what I would like to see from our police forces and the support systems which make their existence possible, but I can only answer for me. A list of those answers will follow.

1) Total independence from and a standoffish relationship with government, which must also apply to the courts. Commissioners and high ranking members of the police and security services, as well as the judiciary must NOT, under any circumstances, have personal connections to government, members of government, or parts of the private industries who deal with government. They must not be members of the same clubs, or appear at the same parties, functions or social events otherwise, and in professional terms, must treat the government and its members the same way they treat everyone else, no greater respect, no sir or ma'm, and no assumption of innocence, except for in court itself.

2) Proper, locally derived, locally stationed policing. There need to be stations and substations re-opened up and down the country, and tens of thousands more policepersons on the street, and I mean walking beats, patrolling, not just rolling around in their cars doing nothing of any importance whatsoever. The police should be a visible presence in every village, hamlet, small town and big city, and you should not be able to pass a thousand people in the street on a given day, without bumping into at least one copper. It should not be possible for a crime to be committed in any urban area, without a police officer being within range such that they could arrive either by foot or car, within MINUTES of an event occurring and a call being placed to the emergency services. There need to be WAAAAAAY more officers than there are.

3) Elimination of all private or corporate involvement with the supply of scientific support to the police service. Every sample jar, every swab, every piece of trace material, blood, spit, hair or other genetic information, MUST be processed by people who are trained and employed directly by the police service, at the cost of the taxpayer. There must be no entity involved in examination of police evidence, other than the police forces own forensic experts, unless third party examination is specifically requested by a lawyer for a defendant.

4) Elimination of all private or corporate employed staff within police stations, be they security personnel, desk staff, or otherwise. Everyone working on police matters, whether they be manning the cafeteria or mopping the floors, must be an employee of the police service directly, not an employee of a contractor, subcontractor, or an "industry partner".

5) Prioritising real crime. I want to see our police forces actually cracking down on crime, real crime, like housebreaking, car theft, robbery, mugging, serious assaults and so on. I do not want to see more frustrated shoppers getting parking tickets because there is literally no where sensible to park in town, or people driving to work getting speeding tickets for going thirty two in a thirty zone, while maniacs in BMWs regularly do seventy down the same stretch and get not a whiff of trouble for it. I want to see real criminals, chased down, captured, contained and jailed. I want to see the worst offenders get the most trouble, and the people committing non-crimes, like possessing a joint, or simply sleeping rough, treated less like cannibalistic savages.

6) I want to see our police forces united behind, for and in service of the people, no one else, not the government and not the corporate entities who own it in all but name.

7) Training that is second to none on the face of the world, when it comes to detection of and the solving of criminal mystery, physical training that prepares all officers for the worst, and philosophical training that instils an almost impossible calm, an ability to reason at high level, even when under incredible pressure.

And... The government needs to pay for this, and keep doing so, for ever.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 06:58 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit
I like the lack of cops, it has brought my society closer together, looking out for each other.
Only the other day some guy stole a charity box from a shop, two store staff (female) chased him, then half the pub ran out to chase him once it was realised what had happened. We don't need cops, the guy got a beating and the charity box was recovered with all the money.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:12 AM
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a reply to: Kester

I would try to emulate big city American cops, or that of the Philippines.

You just have to love their passion for justice, conviction, and drive.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:14 AM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

That's great and all, but people piling out of a pub and chasing a petty thief is a little different to cracking down on serious and organised crime, which is, with the law in the state it is in, fundamentally impossible for anything other than a large, organised, dedicated police force.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:16 AM
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I like the lack of cops, it has brought my society closer together, looking out for each other.


The presence of social servants shouldn't have a positive or negative impact on society IMO.

Decades ago in the US, they purposefully made uniforms light blue as it is one of the most calming colors. They did things to try and make sure the presence didn't feel threatening for most.

Honestly, day to day life, I see cops helping out disabled vehicles, even getting under the hood to try and add coolant or whatever can be done one scene.

But obviously, if you get the blue so dark it looks black, have them loaded to the teeth, and in many areas of the states in SWAT gear for a normal patrol, you feel like your own neighborhood is under occupation.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:19 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit


That's great and all, but people piling out of a pub and chasing a petty thief is a little different to cracking down on serious and organised crime


Excellent point. In the states we have an extreme problem with obesity, and no one want's to talk about the girl scouts, and their stranglehold monopoly on slinging out (I assume) drug laced cookies.

Little bastards run rampant around our streets and store fronts. I think people are too intimidated to confront them or address this issue.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:27 AM
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Well, I certainly don't think we should follow US policing methods, thank you very much. We have probably the best Police in the world but they need to be properly funded and get their priorities sorted.

Whenever I see a senior officer on TV they do not strike me as proper coppers, more like jumped up Civil Servants more concerned with being seen to be right- on Politically Correct than getting villains nicked.

PCO's round here are more concerned with handing out £75 on the spot fines to people who drop their fag ends.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: oldcarpy
Do you still have PCSO's???!
Ours were nearly all laid off in the budget cuts. It is a shock to see anyone in a uniform these days apart from the council traffic wardens who pay for themselves giving out tickets.
I actually like not having 'authority' walking around anymore, as I said, the community has become closer, policing ourselves.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:36 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

That's great and all, but people piling out of a pub and chasing a petty thief is a little different to cracking down on serious and organised crime, which is, with the law in the state it is in, fundamentally impossible for anything other than a large, organised, dedicated police force.

Our cops know who runs the crime around here, it is a symbiotic relationship. It has to be because there are so few of them. I like it as it is, I don't want police numbers to be increased back to the levels they were before the savage budget cuts 10 years or so ago.
You want more cops I get that, but maybe that is a sign of the community you live in?



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:41 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker
Cops in my area only have extendable batons, maybe one in ten has a taser, and there are two armed response vehicles covering the whole of Devon and Cornwall, 1.5 million people.
I managed to get a cops stick off him when he hit me in a case of mistaken identity a few years ago. Was funny as #, I threw it over a wall and then raised my fists shouting come on then hard bastard, he # himself without his stupid stick.
Backup arrived and I complied, didn't even get arrested.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:43 AM
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St. Louis. See if you mofos even jaywalk once they take over.


(That's in the United States if you're uncertain)



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:46 AM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy


I managed to get a cops stick off him when he hit me in a case of mistaken identity a few years ago. Was funny as #, I threw it over a wall and then raised my fists shouting come on then hard bastard, he # himself without his stupid stick. Backup arrived and I complied, didn't even get arrested.


If you ever hop the pond, you should do that as a prank here.

With your accent, they'll just think you're a cheeky bastard, and you'll all have a good laugh.

10/10 will be funnier, I promise.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:52 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker
Haha no chance, I'll comply with cops if I ever visit the US, only speak when spoken to and maybe even say 'sir' or 'ma'am' as appropriate...I've got no death wish lol, cops are actually polite with us here because they have to be being so outnumbered and only having stupid sticks.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: CriticalStinker
Haha no chance, I'll comply with cops if I ever visit the US, only speak when spoken to and maybe even say 'sir' or 'ma'am' as appropriate...I've got no death wish lol, cops are actually polite with us here because they have to be being so outnumbered and only having stupid sticks.


All joking aside, it's not all bad here, really depends on where you're at.

We have two types of cops, public servants, and guys who think that they have an extra set of balls on their belt.

I once got pulled over (I was 18) and the officer said he smelled something "illegal", I told him we had smoked a few hours ago and that's probably what he was smelling and that I didn't have anything on me (true). He told me based off of the smell he was confident he could find a stem or something in the car (he knew that's where we smoked from the smell)... He said he wasn't that kind of guy but plenty were, he escorted me to the car wash and made me vacuum my car so I wouldn't get in trouble by anyone else.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker


T&C's prevent me from telling my best cop stories.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 08:03 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

A very well thought out and complete post as one has come to expect from your good self.

On a minor 'point'.

She notched up six penalty points ten years ago when she was twice caught by speed cameras exceeding the 30 mph limit.
www.dailymail.co.uk...
Former ACPO lead for roads policing couldn't avoid points, but the BMWs with false plates can.

On a major point. The police and the government are pretty much at war.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 08:03 AM
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Small town USA the cops are just part of the community. Their kids are in class with my kids, we see them at all the events. Waive to them as we drive by. Pray for their safety. Should be how it is everywhere.



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