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originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: Sookiechacha
I took it that Ellis Island closed, not that it was no longer the most populated port of entry.
At any rate, Ellis Island's history has nothing to do with our southern border, international treaties and the way we accept asylum sekers, who are not presently required to go through ports of entry to claim asylum.
Trump's policies of family separation, turning away asylum seekers at ports of entry, threatening to disalow asylum for those who enter between ports of entry, in violation of international treaties and acts of Congress, changing asylum criteria, revoking temporary immigration status of Hondurans, El Salvadorians and Hattians, threatening to halt birth right citizenship. revoking passports of US citizens born at home with midwives, etc. are examples of "how Trump is anti-immigrant.
Whether or not you agree with Trump doesn't matter, if they come as poor and huddled, Trump is looking for ways to bar them from immigrating to the US.
So much is touted about the "huddled masses" phrase, but never the part about "I lift my lamp beside the golden door"
If the "huddled masses" want to come in, they've have to come in legally.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: luthier
I'm not "the right," but I'll mention it because I watched the exploitation of the migrant farm workers in the southern San Joaquin Valley of California--the way that employers treated these people and "housed" them during the seasonal work was the epitome of deplorable. I'm not a fan of unions, per se, but I applaud Cesar Chavez and others' effort to get these migrant workers paid at least at the federal minimum wage. Uses like that are appropriate for unions, and I'm glad that they fought the good fight when they did.
That farm work is no joke--this is a valley that CONSISTENTLY smolders in 100+ degrees, and these people are out there doing true back-breaking labor, all the while being exploited by the employers. Keep in mind, there is barely a tree in the vicinity of the farmland, so anyone out there is just directly exposed to the sun and heat...the conditions are terrible.
I would like to think that it's gotten better overall, and it probably has to a certain degree, but whenever I'm out visiting family in Bakersfield, CA, I still see the same shantytowns and run-down housing that existed when I was a kid/teenager growing up there.
These employers exploiting these people are a major part of the problem, and I guarantee that there are backroom kickbacks to governments officials in order to keep the train rolling in border states. It all stink to hell, and I abhor exploitation of human beings.
Which requires Congress writing laws that make sense.
People need to compromise and a constitutional convention should happen to change birthright citzenship in trade for guest worker programs, pathway for property owners or a set of clear rules, with central America and better boarder security.
Without that and labor voids for needed services illegals will come.
Its isnt rocket science. Its reality.
originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: luthier
You mean change archaic laws from centuries old contracts? You don't say? Or is it only ok to make changes when it fits your agenda? Just to be clear I am all for visiting and rehashing said documents according to the will of the people.
If the "huddled masses" want to come in, they've have to come in legally
Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Why are illegals anti-immigration?
Why are dems anti-immigration?
What is it about APPLYING that they’re so ‘against’?
You want to immigrate to Australia? APPLY
South Africa? Slovakia? China? Mexico?
APPLY!!!! Like everyone else does. THATS what an IMMIGRANT is. A person who IMMIGRATED to a country of their choice. By APPLYING.
What is it about sneaking across the borders illegally that dems, leftists and illegal immigrants are so in favour of?