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CNN sues President Trump and top White House aides for barring Jim Acosta

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posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: notsure1

Goes both ways. Trump pulled a hissy fit and told the big bad mean man to leave. Because words hurt him.


Nice try. But no. You obviously did not see what happened.



The very act of Trump revoking his access to WH grounds screams incompetence and cowardice.

Trump is a man-child who wants his safe space where reporters won't ask him challenging questions




posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:08 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: BlackJackal

It isn't indefensible any more than it was indefensible when Obama removed reporters from various white house events and at various times.



I remember when you did not promote fake news so much.

www.snopes.com...


Wow reading that it is so obvious that Snopes doesnt even try and hide its bias anymore.


Hilarious.

Most people reading that would see facts.

But I guess in a world of "alternative-facts" (Kelly Anne Conway) and "Truth is not truth" (Rudy Giulliani)
Things like facts and truth might appear bias to those that no longer believe in facts or truth?

Wild.
edit on 14-11-2018 by soberbacchus because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: notsure1

Goes both ways. Trump pulled a hissy fit and told the big bad mean man to leave. Because words hurt him.


Nice try. But no. You obviously did not see what happened.



The very act of Trump revoking his access to WH grounds screams incompetence and cowardice.

Trump is a man-child who wants his safe space where reporters won't ask him challenging questions

Except that isn't what happened. acosta assaulted a young intern, not for "tough questions".

Leave your safe space out of this, no need to bring your baby crib into this discussion.



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: [post=23957610]

Much like Brennan's PRIVILEGE of having a security clearance, a PRIVILEGE can be revoked for any reason.



Brennan was not a reporter, nor was his security clearance issued for purposes of reporting.

Freedom of the Press.

It's a real thing.

“White House press facilities having been made publicly available as a source of information for newsmen, the protection afforded news gathering under the First Amendment guarantee of freedom of the press, requires that this access not be denied arbitrarily or for less than compelling reasons,” Judge Carl E. McGowan wrote for a unanimous three-judge panel.

www.nytimes.com...


Yeah he arbitrarily picked Acostas at random for no compelling reason. Oh wait no he didn't. I don't think I'll trust you again, you mislead people... you almost tricked me. Why would you do that?? Or is it that you yourself have trouble comprehending the words?

Ok go find a dictionary. I'll wait patiently for your apology.



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: notsure1

Goes both ways. Trump pulled a hissy fit and told the big bad mean man to leave. Because words hurt him.


Nice try. But no. You obviously did not see what happened.



The very act of Trump revoking his access to WH grounds screams incompetence and cowardice.

Trump is a man-child who wants his safe space where reporters won't ask him challenging questions

Except that isn't what happened. acosta assaulted a young intern, not for "tough questions".


Except that is not what happened. Even Sarah Sanders has dropped that debunked claim now that it is heading to court.


YES, this is snowflake baby Trump demanding his safe space because he can't handle a reporter



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: BlackJackal

It isn't indefensible any more than it was indefensible when Obama removed reporters from various white house events and at various times.



I remember when you did not promote fake news so much.

www.snopes.com...


Are you just making random guesses or something? Or cherry picking the current popular nonsense?

Here, this is a good example:



Now...if Trump tries to imprison reporters he may rise to Obama's level.



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: [post=23957610]

Much like Brennan's PRIVILEGE of having a security clearance, a PRIVILEGE can be revoked for any reason.



Brennan was not a reporter, nor was his security clearance issued for purposes of reporting.

Freedom of the Press.

It's a real thing.

“White House press facilities having been made publicly available as a source of information for newsmen, the protection afforded news gathering under the First Amendment guarantee of freedom of the press, requires that this access not be denied arbitrarily or for less than compelling reasons,” Judge Carl E. McGowan wrote for a unanimous three-judge panel.

www.nytimes.com...


Yeah he arbitrarily picked Acostas at random for no compelling reason.


Correct. LEGALLY Compelling reason.
Past reporters banned have been so for rifling through the desks of WH workers or drunken fist fights.

The courts do not police behavior of the press..nor Presidents.
Not their thing.

And they bend over backwards for the Press since it is a constitutionally protected institution.

The closest thing the WH could claim that would even qualify to be uttered in a court room is that Acosta interfered with the duties of the President by not relinquishing the microphone.

Which is why Sarah Sanders changed her tune about why he got banned once the lawsuit was filed.

Not asking a question quickly enough or persisting in a question when a politician tells you to stop?

That aint going to survive legal scrutiny either.



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posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: notsure1

Goes both ways. Trump pulled a hissy fit and told the big bad mean man to leave. Because words hurt him.


Nice try. But no. You obviously did not see what happened.



The very act of Trump revoking his access to WH grounds screams incompetence and cowardice.

Trump is a man-child who wants his safe space where reporters won't ask him challenging questions

Except that isn't what happened. acosta assaulted a young intern, not for "tough questions".


Except that is not what happened. Even Sarah Sanders has dropped that debunked claim now that it is heading to court.


YES, this is snowflake baby Trump demanding his safe space because he can't handle a reporter
Lmfao, you're a fool.

You have no credibility and quite frankly, I don't trust jack s# from you.

Source where Sarah dropped that debunked claim?

One day ago,

"White House press secretary Sarah Sanders issued a statement in response to CNN’s lawsuit against the Trump administation on Tuesday, labeling the complaint as “more grandstanding,” from the network.

“We will vigorously defend against this lawsuit,” she wrote. “The First Amendment is not served when a single reporter, of more than 150 present, attempts to monopolize the floor.” et al.

Source: www.boston.com...

Hardcore leftist propaganda sites like Wapo and CNN will of course twist the narrative and ignorants such as yourself continue to eat it up.

Once again, stop bringing up safe space, I TOLD YOU LEAVE YOUR BABY CRIB OUT OF THIS.



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: notsure1

Goes both ways. Trump pulled a hissy fit and told the big bad mean man to leave. Because words hurt him.


Nice try. But no. You obviously did not see what happened.



The very act of Trump revoking his access to WH grounds screams incompetence and cowardice.

Trump is a man-child who wants his safe space where reporters won't ask him challenging questions



Every time you use those partisan buzzword ("Cheetoh", "man child", etc) it only undercuts any argument you may think you are making. Typed with your hands, read in the voice of Samantha Bee or Bill Maher.



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:23 AM
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YOU SAID


originally posted by: Arnie123
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Except that isn't what happened. acosta assaulted a young intern, not for "tough questions".



I SAID


originally posted by: soberbacchus


Except that is not what happened. Even Sarah Sanders has dropped that debunked claim now that it is heading to court.




THEN YOU PROVIDE A QUOTE PROVING ME RIGHT


originally posted by: [post=23957917]Arnie123

You have no credibility and quite frankly, I don't trust jack s# from you.

Source where Sarah dropped that debunked claim?

One day ago,

"White House press secretary Sarah Sanders issued a statement in response to CNN’s lawsuit against the Trump administation on Tuesday, labeling the complaint as “more grandstanding,” from the network.

“We will vigorously defend against this lawsuit,” she wrote. “The First Amendment is not served when a single reporter, of more than 150 present, attempts to monopolize the floor.” et al.

Source: www.boston.com...




You don't seem capable of honest discourse.

She has dropped the "assault" claim and substituted "attempts to monopolize the floor"

Sarah Sanders recognized she could not lie in court.

You apparently have no such qualms about lying to the forum here.



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posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: notsure1

Goes both ways. Trump pulled a hissy fit and told the big bad mean man to leave. Because words hurt him.


Nice try. But no. You obviously did not see what happened.



The very act of Trump revoking his access to WH grounds screams incompetence and cowardice.

Trump is a man-child who wants his safe space where reporters won't ask him challenging questions



Every time you use those partisan buzzword ("Cheetoh", "man child", etc) it only undercuts any argument you may think you are making. Typed with your hands, read in the voice of Samantha Bee or Bill Maher.


I would rather be guilty of expressing opinion along with with facts than presenting lies as facts.



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:31 AM
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I’d love to hear the argument that CNN is a free press. Last I checked they are not a free over the air channel. Someone has to pay a cable or satellite bill in order to watch them. Same argument can be made about print media as you tend to still pay for a newspaper or magazine. Yeah, you have to buy a radio or TV as well, but they are not single purpose purchases.



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: notsure1

Goes both ways. Trump pulled a hissy fit and told the big bad mean man to leave. Because words hurt him.


Nice try. But no. You obviously did not see what happened.



The very act of Trump revoking his access to WH grounds screams incompetence and cowardice.

Trump is a man-child who wants his safe space where reporters won't ask him challenging questions

Except that isn't what happened. acosta assaulted a young intern, not for "tough questions".

Leave your safe space out of this, no need to bring your baby crib into this discussion.


You need to keep up, the story has changed now. The White House dropped the assault claim now that they have been sued.

LINK


We have been advised that CNN has filed a complaint challenging the suspension of Jim Acosta’s hard pass. This is just more grandstanding from CNN, and we will vigorously defend against this lawsuit.

CNN, who has nearly 50 additional hard pass holders, and Mr. Acosta is no more or less special than any other media outlet or reporter with respect to the First Amendment. After Mr. Acosta asked the President two questions — each of which the President answered — he physically refused to surrender a White House microphone to an intern, so that other reporters might ask their questions. This was not the first time this reporter has inappropriately refused to yield to other reporters.

The White House cannot run an orderly and fair press conference when a reporter acts this way, which is neither appropriate nor professional. The First Amendment is not served when a single reporter, of more than 150 present, attempts to monopolize the floor. If there is no check on this type of behavior it impedes the ability of the President, the White House staff, and members of the media to conduct business.”


Assault is out, physically refusing to give up mic is the new rally cry, shift your defense accordingly.

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posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: BlackJackal

It isn't indefensible any more than it was indefensible when Obama removed reporters from various white house events and at various times.



I remember when you did not promote fake news so much.

www.snopes.com...


Are you just making random guesses or something? Or cherry picking the current popular nonsense?

Here, this is a good example:



Now...if Trump tries to imprison reporters he may rise to Obama's level.


HOLY #.

You are like a fake news machine. I point out one piece of BS and you retort with a second piece of BS.

THAT was NOT a journalist.
THAT was NOT a press conference.
THAT was heckler in the EAST ROOM during a speech Pres. Obama gave for LGBT MONTH.


This is the HECKLER that was removed.



Shortly after the incident, an immigration group claimed the protestor was an undocumented immigrant named Jennicet Gutiérrez, who is transgender. According to a press release, Gutiérrez was a founding member of FAMILIA TQLM, established to advocate for LGBTQ immigrants who the group says are often excluded in the immigration debate.

www.cnn.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

AMAZING YOU SAID THIS

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan


Here, this is a good example:



That is not even an example, at all.


TRY AGAIN.

SHOW ME WHERE PRES. OBAMA EVER HAD A REPORTER REMOVED FROM A PRESS CONFERENCE.



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posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: Ahabstar
I’d love to hear the argument that CNN is a free press. Last I checked they are not a free over the air channel. Someone has to pay a cable or satellite bill


Free in the constitution means free from government oppression.
Not free of charge.
Newspapers have cost money since the invention of the printing press.

A strange thing to have to explain.



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.




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posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus




Hilarious. Most people reading that would see facts.


Most easily manipulated retarded people.



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: soberbacchus




Hilarious. Most people reading that would see facts.


Most easily manipulated retarded people.


You must be special then?



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

Here is Obama kicking reporters off the plane:
abcnews.go.com...

And, of course, we have Nixon banning the WaPo.



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: notsure1

Goes both ways. Trump pulled a hissy fit and told the big bad mean man to leave. Because words hurt him.


Nice try. But no. You obviously did not see what happened.



The very act of Trump revoking his access to WH grounds screams incompetence and cowardice.

Trump is a man-child who wants his safe space where reporters won't ask him challenging questions



Every time you use those partisan buzzword ("Cheetoh", "man child", etc) it only undercuts any argument you may think you are making. Typed with your hands, read in the voice of Samantha Bee or Bill Maher.


I would rather be guilty of expressing opinion along with with facts than presenting lies as facts.


Its not opinion. Its ad hominem.



posted on Nov, 14 2018 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

Sharyl Attkisson

FOX News banned before it was walked back

I am sure Snopes says none of that happened.




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