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California Forest Fires, are They Caused by Climate Change or is Something Else Occurring.

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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 12:05 AM
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Quick check found this:

Cosmic Rays Recreated in the Lab, With a Goal of Safer Space Missions

According to a BBC News account of the research, the scientists do their work within a concrete bunker with a 10-ton metal door, designed to protect Glasgow's residents from exposure. Inside, they use a powerful French-made laser-plasma accelerator to produce short — as in billionths of a second — bursts of energy that, as one scientist explained, are the equivalent of all the solar energy that reaches the UK.


science.howstuffworks.com...

That sounds very similar if not identical to this:

The chapter explains the four major categories of DEWs: Microwave‐based DEWs, Laser‐based DEWs, Particle beam weapons (PBW) and Laser‐Induced Plasma Channel, LIPC weapons. There are two broad categories of particle beam weapons, namely the charged particle and neutral‐particle beam weapons. The particle accelerator is the source of high‐energy particle beam and is therefore the heart of the particle beam weapon system.



From: Handbook of Defence Electronics and Optronics: Fundamentals, Technologies and Systems
onlinelibrary.wiley.com...
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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 12:06 AM
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The circles don't mean what the OP thinks they mean.



posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 12:13 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Asktheanimals

The circles don't mean what the OP thinks they mean.


I see your point. I ran ahead of myself there.
Is any science agency monitoring this stuff where we can see it?
this ongoing experiment has a little data
spaceweatherarchive.com...
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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 12:15 AM
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Enjoy:
neutronm.bartol.udel.edu...
cr0.izmiran.ru...
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posted on Nov, 21 2018 @ 12:16 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Enjoy:
neutronm.bartol.udel.edu...

thank you sir.
talk about fast service!
I would be interested to know what the ap actually does measure, not good at picking up muons i would gather. Also how accurate any of those measurements might be.
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posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 12:15 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Asktheanimals

The circles don't mean what the OP thinks they mean.


Nice, now it seems that Phage thinks she/he is able to read people's minds...

BTW, Phage claims the author of the app does not call them events.


originally posted by: Phage

Those are not "events". I guess you missed this:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


Thomas Andersen, PhD, calls them events...


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Version 1.2 of the Cosmic Ray App now has the ability to sends events to the Cosmic Ray Observer server! Take part in a real physics experiment. Events are shown in real time on the cosmicrayobserver.com global server.
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cosmicrayapp.com...

Talking about "cherry picking." Also Phage wants to claim that the two USGS seismologists are not saying that there has been an increase in global earthquakes, and wants to cherry pick on the fact that they just can't find if this increase in global earthquakes is outside of the norm, even though they are indeed stating there has been a global increase in Earthquakes.


The 2010–2014.3 global earthquake rate increase
Tom Parsons 1 and Eric L. Geist 1

1 U. S. Geological Survey, Menlo Park, California, USA
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1. Introduction

Obvious increases in the global rate of large (M ≥ 7.0) earthquakes happened after 1992, 2010, and especially during the first quarter of 2014 (Table 1 and Figure 1). Given these high rates, along with suggestions that damaging earthquakes may be causatively linked at global distance [e.g., Gomberg and Bodin, 1994; Pollitz et al., 1998; Tzanis and Makropoulos, 2002; Bufe and Perkins, 2005; Gonzalez-Huizar et al., 2012; Pollitz et al., 2012, 2014], we investigate whether there is a significant departure from a random process underlying these rate changes. Recent studies have demonstrated that M ≥ 7.0 earthquakes (and also tsunamis) that occurred since 1900 follow a Poisson process [e.g., Michael, 2011; Geist and Parsons, 2011; Daub et al., 2012; Shearer and Stark, 2012; Parsons and Geist, 2012; Ben-Naim et al., 2013]. Here we focus on the period since 2010, which has M ≥ 7.0 rates increased by 65% and M ≥ 5.0 rates up 32% compared with the 1979 – present average. The first quarter of 2014 experienced more than double the average M ≥ 7.0 rate, enough to intrigue the news media [e.g., www.nbcnews.com...]. We extend our analysis to M ≥ 5.0 levels, as many of these lower magnitude events convey significant hazard, and global catalogs have not generally been tested down to these thresholds.
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profile.usgs.gov...

The two USGS seismologists who posted these findings are Tom Parsons and Eric L. Geist.

More than that, Phage wants to claim I am cherry picking data that shows there has been an increase in the amount of cosmic rays, especially x-rays, reaching our Solar System.

I even showed proof that if primary cosmic rays have enough energy, greater than 500 million electron volts, the atmospheric cascade they produce will reach Earth's surface. Then i showed how in 2008 NASA stated that an "unexpected surplus of cosmic ray electrons at very high energy -- 300-800 billion electron volts" was reaching us. This energy is much greater than the 500 million electron volts needed for the cascading effects of the primary cosmic rays, colliding with atoms in our atmosphere, to reach the surface of Earth. This excess energy does affect not only our atmosphere and Earth's magnetic field, but the nuclear byproducts of the cascading effect are reaching Earth's surface.

neutronm.bartol.udel.edu...
www.nasa.gov...

Not only that, but the amount of cosmic rays that we have been receiving has continued to increase since 2008.





The parts of the graph that I am circling in yellow in the picture below are showing the three last solar maximums. As you can see even during the last 3 solar maximums the amount of cosmic rays reaching us has been increasing.



But Phage, because it is Phage, wants to deny it all.




edit on 22-11-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 12:21 AM
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As you can see even during the last 3 solar maximums the amount of cosmic rays reaching us has been increasing.
You know that I've pointed out several times that solar activity has been declining, right? Do you think there's a relationship?


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posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 12:48 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ElectricUniverse


As you can see even during the last 3 solar maximums the amount of cosmic rays reaching us has been increasing.
You know that I've pointed out several times that solar activity has been declining, right? Do you think there's a relationship?



No, what you have claimed is that Solar activity hasn't been increasing since 1980s, as you have tried to claim that Anthropogenic CO2 must be the cause of the warming the Earth has been experiencing, and that has been wrong as well. Except for the fact that Earth started warming in the early 1600s, over 250 years before the height of the industrial revolution, and before the increase in anthropogenic CO2.

The following picture shows global borehole temperatures which shows the warming Earth has been experiencing began in the early 1600s


Even the ACRIM composites of Total Solar Irradiance shown by Nicola Scafetta and Richard C. Wilson's research showed TSI during solar minimum had been increasing during the 25 years, 1978-2002, that Wilson did the study.


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However, it is true that even our own Sun has been acting strangely, including during 2007 when even though the overall activity of our sun was decreasing, the visible light we were receiving from the Sun had increased and was causing more warming than in 2004.


Declining solar activity linked to recent warming

The Sun may have caused as much warming as carbon dioxide over three years.

Quirin Schiermeier

An analysis of satellite data challenges the intuitive idea that decreasing solar activity cools Earth, and vice versa. In fact, solar forcing of Earth's surface climate seems to work the opposite way around — at least during the current Sun cycle.

Joanna Haigh, an atmospheric physicist at Imperial College London, and her colleagues analysed daily measurements of the spectral composition of sunlight made between 2004 and 2007 by NASA's Solar Radiation and Climate Experiment (SORCE) satellite. They found that the amount of visible light reaching Earth increased as the Sun's activity declined — warming the Earth's surface. Their unexpected findings are published today in Nature1.
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Haigh's team compared SORCE's solar spectrum data with wavelengths predicted by a standard empirical model based mainly on sunspot numbers and area, and noticed unexpected differences. The amount of ultraviolet radiation in the spectrum was four to six times smaller than that predicted by the empirical model, but an increase in radiation in the visible wavelength, which warms the Earth's surface, compensated for the decrease.

Contrary to expectations, the net amount of solar energy reaching Earth's troposphere — the lowest part of the atmosphere — seems to have been larger in 2007 than in 2004, despite the decline in solar activity over that period.
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"We're seeing — albeit limited to a very short period — a very interesting change in solar irradiation with remarkably similar changes in ozone," says Haigh. "It might be a coincidence, and it does require verification, but our findings could be too important to not publish them now."
Sun surprise

The full implications of the discovery are unclear. Haigh says that the current solar cycle could be different from previous cycles, for unknown reasons. But it is also possible that the effects of solar variability on atmospheric temperatures and ozone are substantially different from what has previously been assumed.
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www.nature.com...



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posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 12:50 AM
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No, what you have claimed is that Solar activity hasn't been increasing since 1980s,

Actually, I have said that Solar activity has been declining for 60 years or so.


Why can't you chosse one thing at a time to discuss? Your gish gallops get old.
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posted on Nov, 22 2018 @ 03:05 PM
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The following picture shows global borehole temperatures which shows the warming Earth has been experiencing began in the early 1600s
Yes, that is when the northern hemisphere was leaving the Little Ice Age. It matches fairly well with the data from temperature proxies, which also show how much warming has accelerated since the industrial age began.


 


during the 25 years, 1978-2002, that Wilson did the study.
Has that slight "trend" continued? Not for the 2008 solar minimum.


And right now we're right about where we were in 2008, and we haven't even reached solar minimum yet.

Doesn't look like TSI has been increasing for the past 60 years or so. Looks like it's been declining.


 


However, it is true that even our own Sun has been acting strangely, including during 2007 when even though the overall activity of our sun was decreasing, the visible light we were receiving from the Sun had increased and was causing more warming than in 2004.
It doesn't say the Sun has been "acting strangely." It says that data which hadn't been available provided new information about how the Sun behaves. How can they know it's "acting strangely" based on three years of data?

But testing the accuracy of Haigh's provisional findings will require at least a full 11-year solar cycle of high-quality spectral observations.


Your source:

"If the climate were affected in the long term, the Sun should have produced a notable cooling in the first half of the twentieth century, which we know it didn't," she says.


"All the evidence is that the vast majority of warming is anthropogenic," agrees Lockwood. "It might be that the solar part isn't quite working the way we thought it would, but it is certainly not a seismic rupture of the science."

www.nature.com...

Here's what a later study (which Haigh also took part in) of spectral irradiance data found, it's not of much use at this point.

The recalibrated SORCE SOLSTICE version 12 irradiances result in a much smaller mesospheric ozone response than that of version 10, and this smaller mesospheric ozone response is similar in magnitude to that of SATIRE-S. This shows that current knowledge of variations in spectral irradiance is not sufficient to warrant robust conclusions concerning the impact of solar variability on the atmosphere and climate.

journals.ametsoc.org...


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