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UFOs over Ireland spotted by two different pilots

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posted on Nov, 15 2018 @ 06:02 AM
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The Leonid meteor shower peaks on the 17th. These normally have a purple hue to them and tend to leave fluffy, fiery trails. When the Leonids put on a display, it's better than the glorious 12th.




posted on Nov, 15 2018 @ 06:21 AM
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originally posted by: tommyjo

originally posted by: sapien82

Interesting that the Russians are denied and cant reach the Irish sea , UFO's or top secret military craft,


There is nothing to prevent the Russians from flying into international airspace in the Irish Sea. 2015 was the most recent Tu-95MS Bear H flight where they flew off the west coast of Cornwall in the Celtic Sea. As long as they remain outside the 12 nautical mile limit they are free to navigate in international airspace. They were supported by IL-78 Midas air refuelling tankers so if they had chosen to fly up into the Irish Sea they could have done so. They chose to fly half way up the English Channel on that 2015 mission before turning round and returning up the west coast of Eire.


The report was it was seen in Kerry and Cork that's inland not near the coast.



posted on Nov, 15 2018 @ 06:55 AM
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There are some quite interesting comments in this thread...

The conversation between the pilot and ATC, well anyone can sit there with a radio that picks up the chatter and record it. I believe it to be real and have no reason not to, but the source is interesting and would be nice to have this confirmed.

As for the Russians, considering the "testimony" of the pilot, I doubt they wouldn't be able to identify another bird in the sky. ATC did confirm that there was nothing on the primary and secondary radar systems either... so we can discount another aircraft that would appear on radar.... there are few that don't.......

As for the immediate coverage, well I wouldn't really put it down to a coordinated effort by TTSA! More of the local press and the MSM websites that know these kind of stories create a lot of visitors, hits which ultimately means more advertising revenue.

As we know, TTSA aren't the best at being organised.. so to get something like this out there in the time frame, doesn't really fit in my eyes in terms of them.

As KG stated and reaffirmed, it would be interesting if other testimony becomes available so we can re-create the trajectory and flightpath and distances from which this was sighted.

What was it?

We need more documented evidence and eyewitness accounts before we can really give it a good go...



posted on Nov, 15 2018 @ 08:16 AM
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Yellow = aircraft identified in the audio/news articles
Blue = aircraft not mentioned

Interesting to note that 3 US aircraft were in the area, one of them directly behind and not at too much altitude difference to the BA aircraft. Another almost directly in front of the Virgin plane. Yet there are no American radio calls in the audio, and no reports from the American airlines... In theory that Delta Airlines plane would've seen "it" just as clearly as the others, and probably had the best view out of all of them.

Maybe Q is the source lol.

I'm in no way convinced TTS is the source, but their method is "Press Release + 5 minute video footage". And what we have here is a press release and 5 minute video footage. It fits their MO is all. But I'm hoping this was a leak from the Q team...because it also fits (though not quite as snuggly) into their current MO. It fits others too, ie misdirection "look here not here" though it's not exactly a major distraction, just "cool" news.

This is why you can't trust MSM though. Not a single article mentions a source, not even that it was "first reported by" that they usually do if they're cashing in on some relevant local news. Good reporting will include a source or the "first reported by" line and they all fail miserably to provide that with (at least) this one. It's kind of a contradiction, because the story is quite a positive one. But that doesn't mean we should just accept it being delivered to us like glorified click-bait. NAME. YOUR. SOURCE... but it's the MSM we're talking about...

Q as the source "theory". This is far out, way beyond the pale even for me... but still:


53-47
Q


This sighting occured on the 53rd parallel north, latitude. It didn't occur on longitude 47, though long 47 is just a bit further East over Snowdonia Wales region. That makes 47 seemingly irrelevant, except: sighting occurred at the 47th minute of the hour. 53 minus 47 = 6. Sighting occurred at 6 am, 47th minute. Some people say this "drop" by Q relates to senate/house numbers, maybe it does. But the drop came just before the MSM reported on this UFO sighting (13th Nov), and as I say, you can play with the numbers and get some (light) connections to the incident.

Did Q know the latitude and time of the event and share that with us? Cos from those numbers we (can) get the latitude, the hour and the minute of the event. 53-47 = 6. How many planes are in the vicinity in the image above? 6. Perhaps via the American airlines (if we assume they also were witnesses, the info was passed back to the US military, locked down, made its way up to Gov/Q team very quickly). On the flip side, maybe the "aliens" pre-empted the Q post...
Take it as you will. I just thought it was kinda cool...
edit on 15-11-2018 by markymint because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 15 2018 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: markymint

What is Q? What does it mean?



posted on Nov, 15 2018 @ 06:56 PM
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American Meteor Society has added it to their register as a fireball:

www.amsmeteors.org...



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 03:45 AM
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a reply to: Woody510

Boring.
It's got to the point where witness testimony, even from experts is useless.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 05:49 AM
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I'd like add an updated infographic that I have shared on my socials where you can see some interesting details about what said by the pilots and what reported by witnesses from the ground at the same time:




posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 06:04 AM
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-nvm-

Moohide: Q is a group within the trump administration inc. trump himself. Q bypasses MSM to throw them off. There's a possibility they are on our side of the fence disclosure wise (re: aliens etc), but it's only a possibility at this point. OFC you only need to say the word "Trump" for a lot of folks to go into absolute spaz mode, so it's best to go look for some Q stuff on youtube for yourself and make up your own mind, etc etc. But when they were asked if "we are alone" they said "No". Which is more than Obama ever admitted ... ok, don't wanna get political

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posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 07:55 AM
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a reply to: markymint

Thanks for explaining.

Dont worry about the politics i dont come on here for that, in fact i stay clear of it, we've got enough crap going on here politicly in England. Like you said, i'll try find something about Q on youtube.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: ziplock9000

The thing about witness testimony is that we all see and explain things differently.

Look at 9/11, how many different witness stories of the incident are there? Too many. There were/were not explosions (towers), there was/wasn't an airplane (pentagon). I dont want to discuss these here, it is just an example of many witnesses can see the same thing, but all have a different view/story about what happened.

I think they saw a meteor personally, but they were there and witnessed it. Professional pilots or not, they are only human and these are multiple stories from different angles and one pilot said it "veered" (change direction suddenly). The meteor (if it was one) probably just broke up making the incident look odd.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 10:04 AM
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Interesting dash cam footage on disclose tv.
Thought it looked like a meteor at first. When played in slo mo looks like 4 lights?

Disclose TV Link



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: Woody510

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: Woody510

No worries mate. It's a good story and looks pretty interesting. These don't come down the pipe so often.

I do like it when pilot reports come out they come across as very credible to me.


No more so than anyone else, really. Unless they go beyond saying that they saw something that they don't know what it was.


Pilot's aren't going to just throw comments out there like this, their career is at stake. They are trained observers. They spend the majority of their life looking into the sky. They know the sky and what's in it better than anyone. They are waaaaaay more credible than most.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 11:35 AM
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I think it's pretty clear it wasn't a meteor. Meteors don't veer off, climb, or change direction. If they did we would have footage on Youtube of them doing so. I think if you're making such an irrational claim you should provide some evidence that it is possible or has happened before!
edit on 16-11-2018 by redzi0n because: Clarifying second sentence.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: redzi0n

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: Woody510

originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: Woody510

No worries mate. It's a good story and looks pretty interesting. These don't come down the pipe so often.

I do like it when pilot reports come out they come across as very credible to me.


No more so than anyone else, really. Unless they go beyond saying that they saw something that they don't know what it was.


Pilot's aren't going to just throw comments out there like this, their career is at stake. They are trained observers. They spend the majority of their life looking into the sky. They know the sky and what's in it better than anyone. They are waaaaaay more credible than most.


Nonsense.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 12:24 PM
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They are waaaaaay more credible than most.


I understand what you are saying about experience, but the descriptions i'v heard from the pilots were not much better than what someone on the street would describe the object as. Like i said in my post above, they are only human.

As for 'veered' i am yet to see a video of said object or objects, in day or night videos, of any of the objects do anything but go in a straight line.



posted on Nov, 16 2018 @ 01:10 PM
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Very intresting thread however i think it was De Ruzzuns and Donny Thump, feckin ejits spying on the whole lot of us. Next time i see the sky lights im gonna shake my fist in the air at them. That'll lern dem.
"DONNYYYYYYYYYYY"



FlexArc



posted on Nov, 17 2018 @ 03:23 AM
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originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
Interesting dash cam footage on disclose tv.
Thought it looked like a meteor at first. When played in slo mo looks like 4 lights?

Disclose TV Link


Thanks for that footage.

Quite easy to geo locate the filming location.

Street View Google Map Link

Google Map Link

55° 9'58.11"N 6°35'54.72"W

edit on 17/11/2018 by tommyjo because: Additional info added



posted on Nov, 17 2018 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Moohide
a reply to: ziplock9000

The thing about witness testimony is that we all see and explain things differently.
...., it is just an example of many witnesses can see the same thing, but all have a different view/story about what happened.


Once and awhile we have the opportunity to thoroughly document exactly that phenomenon.

Nov 07, 2015 Trident SLBM launch off California

satobs.org...



posted on Nov, 17 2018 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: Moohide

I understand what you are saying about experience, but the descriptions i'v heard from the pilots were not much better than what someone on the street would describe the object as. Like i said in my post above, they are only human.
.....


So we read another boast about pilots being 'trained observers' whose reports must be scientifically valid.... As Hynek and others have repeatedly discovered, pilots are not dispassionate nature-viewers, they are survival-focussed specialists in avoiding lethal hazards in the air, and as such they properly interpret visual stimuli in the most hazardous [and closest] manifestation, AS THEY SHOULD.

As early as the 1930s scientists realized that pilots were POOR observers of mid-air objects such as meteors and they continue to be poor observers of missile and space events, and we WANT them to be, in order to enhance the chances of them and their passengers staying alive -- better too many 'false-positive' avoidance reactions, than a single false-negative in a genuine collision-course event.

1936 REPORT ON WHY PILOTS ARE POOR OBSERVERS OF METEORS
adsabs.harvard.edu...
CONTEMPORARY PILOT MISPERCEPTIONS OF MISSILE/SPACE EVENTS
www.zipworld.com.au...

Leslie Kane used that fallacy as the central theme of her book:
www.nbcnews.com...



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