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originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: whywhynot
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Groot
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Groot
How does a gun stop a bullet?
Stops a person shooting the gun. Makes a person think twice before shooting up others .
I am guessing you are anti gun and from Australia? Am I wrong?
Wouldn't some snazzy kevlar tailoring be better at protecting the average joe?
I mean the bad guy is ready, aiming and will get off all the shots before the good guy gets his gun up. The proliferation of weapons favors the evil and murderous.
You really have no idea what you are talking about.
originally posted by: Groot
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Lab4Us
Good for them! Now if they would start voting the liberals out of office, they might build themselves a nice little State.
Of course the “journalist” is a bit disingenuous, stating they were purchasing guns out of “raw fear”. Arming yourself because the police can’t protect you and your family isn’t raw fear, it’s prudent decision making.
Not to mention that anyone who studies history knows that a government disarms its citizens prior to the “round ups”.
Please tell me about those specific incidences from history.
1929: The Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929-1953, 20 million dissidents rounded up and murdered.
1911: Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Christian Armenians rounded up and exterminated.
1938: Germany established gun control. From 1939-1945, 13 million Jews and others rounded up and exterminated.
1935: China established gun control. From 1948-1952, 20 million political dissidents rounded up and exterminated.
1964: Guatemala established gun control. From 1981-1984, 100,000 Mayan Indians rounded up and exterminated.
1970: Uganda established gun control. From 1971-1979, 300,000 Christians rounded up and exterminated.
1956: Cambodia established gun control. From 1975-1977, 1 million educated people rounded up and exterminated.
originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: chr0naut
Don't you always ask that question, and then a deluge of people provide examples like the Nazi round ups, China during g the revolution under Mao, pol pot Cambodia, pretty sure it's how Burma got to the point they are now...
Happened in South American states preceding many of their Independences from Spain, etc.. etc..
originally posted by: kookkook
a reply to: chr0naut
Do you realize that a gun is cheaper than kevlar? The type of kevlar that'd be worth wearing that is. While most kevlar vests are inexpensive, they are not rated to stop certain rounds from penetration still resulting in your death. Not to mention the cost for protection from rifle rounds. You'd be better off buying a gun and learning to shoot back. You'd certainly save some money.
originally posted by: MikeA
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: whywhynot
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Groot
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Groot
How does a gun stop a bullet?
Stops a person shooting the gun. Makes a person think twice before shooting up others .
I am guessing you are anti gun and from Australia? Am I wrong?
Wouldn't some snazzy kevlar tailoring be better at protecting the average joe?
I mean the bad guy is ready, aiming and will get off all the shots before the good guy gets his gun up. The proliferation of weapons favors the evil and murderous.
You really have no idea what you are talking about.
I wasn't saying that a gun can never defend against a criminal.
Ask yourself, who arms the crims? Those who are criminal and will use the guns against others can buy guns just like those few do-gooders. In fact, crims also obtain guns by nefarious methods, too.
Almost anyone can obtain a gun. moreso those who lie and steal.
Let me know if I have this right. You admit that you know criminals get all the guns they want, but the do-gooders shouldn't be allowed to. Next your going to say that criminals only get their guns at gun stores. That if we close them it will prevent them from getting a gun LoL. Oh and FYI there are far more than just a few do-gooders.
Gun violence is not on the rise as much as people think. The only real difference is the internet. Crime has always happened we just hear about more of it. There was a time when you only ever heard about the stuff in your part of the country. Now you hear about all of it.
My post starts with let me know. I don't know why it put it all in one page
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: MikeA
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: whywhynot
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Groot
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Groot
How does a gun stop a bullet?
Stops a person shooting the gun. Makes a person think twice before shooting up others .
I am guessing you are anti gun and from Australia? Am I wrong?
Wouldn't some snazzy kevlar tailoring be better at protecting the average joe?
I mean the bad guy is ready, aiming and will get off all the shots before the good guy gets his gun up. The proliferation of weapons favors the evil and murderous.
You really have no idea what you are talking about.
I wasn't saying that a gun can never defend against a criminal.
Ask yourself, who arms the crims? Those who are criminal and will use the guns against others can buy guns just like those few do-gooders. In fact, crims also obtain guns by nefarious methods, too.
Almost anyone can obtain a gun. moreso those who lie and steal.
Let me know if I have this right. You admit that you know criminals get all the guns they want, but the do-gooders shouldn't be allowed to. Next your going to say that criminals only get their guns at gun stores. That if we close them it will prevent them from getting a gun LoL. Oh and FYI there are far more than just a few do-gooders.
Gun violence is not on the rise as much as people think. The only real difference is the internet. Crime has always happened we just hear about more of it. There was a time when you only ever heard about the stuff in your part of the country. Now you hear about all of it.
My post starts with let me know. I don't know why it put it all in one page
How do mass murderers usually get guns?
At the shop.
originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: chr0naut
Just... LOL.
You are using snopes as a source?
How about opening up a history book?
Since you are not American, I have a secret for you...
Snopes is a left-wing trash site... always has been.
Usually people that use it as a link just look a little stupider about the topic they have replied to.
In your case, it wasn't even necessary.
originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: chr0naut
Where do armed Citizens get their weapons/people who defend their lives with firearms get them?
Their friendly neighborhood FFL.
Laws target specific criminal behavior/conduct, they don't prevent anything. Nor are they supposed to.
Preventing is why we have a right to self-defense and RKBA. You prevent crime/violence by being armed and stopping the sorry SOB who picked erred by choosing you as their intended victim.
Firearms are the ultimate force multiple and equalizer. It doesn't matter if an attacker is 100 lbs or 250 lbs and a body builder. If he is engaging in violent conduct that rises to the level of deadly force then that firearm will ensure you have the proper tool to end the threat.
Laws punish criminals. They don't prevent crime.
Guns prevent violent crime.
Regardless the whole conversation is moot. Not interested in shredding the second amendment so some cowards can rest easier in their self-righteous (and completely wrong-headed) anti-gun beliefs.