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President Make Up Crap threatens to pull Federal Funding from California Wildfires

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posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:19 PM
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Another little known fact is california had the largest population of pronghorn antelope in the U.S (pre gold rush), which formed huge herds, and would mow their way across the Sierra's eating everything in their path, including overgrown brush. by the 1880's most were gone, and in just a couple decades brush overgrowth had become quite evident, with a huge decline in deer populations due to the lack of young brush growth on which they rely upon.
I worked regularly with the wildlife biologist on the yosemite deer herd count, which is done at cherry lake, a man made lake put accidentally in the migration path of the yosemite herd in the 1920's. They did not alter their path, but just swim across the lake, stopping on a 30 sq yds island in the middle. We would use simple hand click counters get well over a hundred deer a day during the migration. I spoke with the same wildlife biologist about 5 years ago and inquired on the herd strength now, he said a 2/3 loss of the herd since the late 80's when I assisted him. He attributed it to lack of young edilble brush, and the moratorium on cougar hunting is to blame. cougar will eat 2 deer a week, and old age is the only enemy for the big cats now...another shining example of mismanagement in Ca. add the loss of what was probably their main prey in the antelope. I am by no mean a biologist...but it seems obvious you need to regulate a apex predator population?

one last point...I have done thousands of tree dendrology ( ring counting ) studies, and in the Sierra Nevada mountians 20 to 30 year droughts were and are common.




posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: walkinghomer


Sparky?

I have fiends in that fire. They've lost everything.


Blaming Trump for it is weak as hell.



Trump is the one who jumped in it.

Blame Trump for Trump.


Eloquently put.

Kind of puts it all into perspective. No way to satisfy your lot ever.



posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:24 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Annee

No.

Wrong so often.

The person (s) who started the fire are responsible.

The state reps who don't know # and provided the kindling are responsible.



"Don't look here -- Look over there.



posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: walkinghomer


Sparky?

I have fiends in that fire. They've lost everything.


Blaming Trump for it is weak as hell.



Trump is the one who jumped in it.

Blame Trump for Trump.


Eloquently put.

Kind of puts it all into perspective. No way to satisfy your lot ever.


Here's your mirror.



posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: Annee

So really, I have to ask, do you have any opinion on the mismanagement, knowledge of the problem issues, dating back many, many years?

I mean really, they knew this could happen.
They did NOTHING about it?



posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:32 PM
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What antics? The man is talking about possible solutions to stop this from happening again.

You know the same way Obama and the Democrats talked about outlawing guns after a mass shooting. I bet you were fully supportive of that though right?

Really you guys need to calm down. It s just a tweet.



posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Annee

So really, I have to ask, do you have any opinion on the mismanagement, knowledge of the problem issues, dating back many, many years?

I mean really, they knew this could happen.
They did NOTHING about it?




Ante laid out a reasonable explanation on the previous page...



posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Annee

So really, I have to ask, do you have any opinion on the mismanagement, knowledge of the problem issues, dating back many, many years?

I mean really, they knew this could happen.
They did NOTHING about it?


They who?

Of what's burning, how much is:

-private land?
-state land?
-federal land?
-rented land?
-foreign owned land?
-corporate owned land?
-etc?

I can tell you in Bell Canyon they used to have like a homeowners association. Home owners were required to clear brush up to a certain distance from any structure. A watering system was installed on the hills surrounding the canyon -- paid by homeowners.

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posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: samuelsson


Do all of that when the fires are over

Trump has no tact, empathy and is a crude and cruel moron. That’s the truth you Trump supporters avoid.



Actually he does have empathy.

He is looking for solutions. Whether his solution will work or not I don’t know. Trump likes to get stuff done, not dwell on things that can’t be changed.



posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:36 PM
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originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: samuelsson


Do all of that when the fires are over

Trump has no tact, empathy and is a crude and cruel moron. That’s the truth you Trump supporters avoid.



Actually he does have empathy.

He is looking for solutions. Whether his solution will work or not I don’t know. Trump likes to get stuff done, not dwell on things that can’t be changed.




What solutions?



posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: walkinghomer


Sparky?

I have fiends in that fire. They've lost everything.


Blaming Trump for it is weak as hell.



Trump is the one who jumped in it.

Blame Trump for Trump.


Eloquently put.

Kind of puts it all into perspective. No way to satisfy your lot ever.


Here's your mirror.


Hardly. Evidence being each of our posting histories.



posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: samuelsson


Do all of that when the fires are over

Trump has no tact, empathy and is a crude and cruel moron. That’s the truth you Trump supporters avoid.



Actually he does have empathy.

He is looking for solutions. Whether his solution will work or not I don’t know. Trump likes to get stuff done, not dwell on things that can’t be changed.




What solutions?


He apparently is under impression clearing brush would have at least slowed the fire. I honestly have no idea if it will or not. But if people don’t think he is being briefed on this stuff by people who do I think you are very naive.



posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:44 PM
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a reply to: proximo




Trump likes to get stuff done


I thought it was "just a tweet."
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:47 PM
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originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: samuelsson


Do all of that when the fires are over

Trump has no tact, empathy and is a crude and cruel moron. That’s the truth you Trump supporters avoid.



Actually he does have empathy.

He is looking for solutions. Whether his solution will work or not I don’t know. Trump likes to get stuff done, not dwell on things that can’t be changed.




What solutions?


He apparently is under impression clearing brush would have at least slowed the fire. I honestly have no idea if it will or not. But if people don’t think he is being briefed on this stuff by people who do I think you are very naive.


The fire fighters didn't seem to agree with him.



posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:50 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: proximo




Trump likes to get stuff done


I thought it was "just a tweet."
www.abovetopsecret.com...


It is for now. He is a businessman, he does a/b testing by throwing ideas out and testing the reaction.

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posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: proximo

So, he doesn't know if it's a good idea to not provide disaster funding to California?

He needs to consult with his base? Through Twitter? I wonder what Hannity thinks.

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posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:53 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: proximo

So, he doesn't know if it's a good idea to not provide disaster funding to California?

He needs to consult with his base? Through Twitter? I wonder what Hannity thinks.


Standard Trump


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posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: proximo

So, he doesn't know if it's a good idea to not provide disaster funding to California?

He needs to consult with his base? Through Twitter? I wonder what Hannity thinks.


You don’t think it worked?

He will know a lot of people’s opinions of this tweet. I think more than his base are paying attention.



posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:56 PM
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a reply to: proximo

I don't really think he cares about any opinions but his own. But he does like to play to his base. No doubt. And his base don't like California and tends to believe everything that comes out of his mouth.
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posted on Nov, 10 2018 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: proximo

I don't really think he cares about any opinions but his own. But he does like to play to his base. No doubt. And his base don't like California.






But, he will use his base to get what he wants.

They don't even seem to understand they are manipulated.




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