I can't imagine not having a national health service funded by taxes.

a reply to: burdman30ott6
Yes, and Britain was the masters of controlling the world lol
Not America, Britain. We still own you, you need our bases in the UK and Diego Garcia which you rent off us.
Don't act all hard like you rule the world, you don't, and what you gonna do invade a nuclear power without facing the risks that involves. Always a sub floating somewhere in the world, you can take your hard man bull# and shove it, I bet you hate that a small nation like mine can say that to you. You have to be friends with us, you have no unique stick to hit us with, we have the same sticks, want Washington wiped off the map?

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Your response to my comment about "prizes" influencing those in power to wage more war was "why should I care"?

Yeah, you're ignorant if you actually feel that way.

originally posted by: Agree2Disagree

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are also Constitutionally mandated. You can't have any of those things if you don't have your health.

Nice sidestep though. You missed my point entirely, intentionally.

Working, exchanging your personal time, only to have your wages go into someone else's pocket to ease their budgeting concerns over health care fulfills the worker's goals of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness how, exactly?

But, where do the taxes to fund the military come from?

If you didn't see my previous post, I'm honestly not trolling, I'm just not understanding your reasoning.

I dont want to get too involved in the middle of y'alls conversation but I feel a small obligation to point out how I feel about the matter.

I will gladly pay taxes for the military. They protect our nation as a whole. Our land, our freedoms... it's for all of us, paid by all of us.

Paying for the nations welfare or healthcare is similar, but not exactly the same. You see, I support universal healthcare...but what I want MORE is health education. I do not want, and do not feel obligated, to pay for the healthcare costs of MILLIONS of Americans who give no #s a out their own health. Diabetes because of unhealthy diets, cancer because of unhealthy habits, accidents because of unsafe practices...

I will GLADLY pay taxes if they go towards NO-FAULT health claims. However if you eat McDonald's everyday and get diabetes...I'm sorry, get your own insulin.

A2D

There is quite a bit of focus on preventative measures under a universal healthcare system, it's beneficial to have health education to help keep costs down, under the current American system there is no incentive for health education as that would eat into both doctors and insurance companies bottom line, reality is if more people get sick health insurance companies make more money... Obviously that's a simplistic observation on my behalf there but to the point.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: narrator

It took an amendment to permit income tax and that amendment was never properly raitifed so yes, income taxation is theft and it is Unconstitutional... sadly, the system loves it's power so it protects itself.

"the system loves it's power so it protects itself"

Ain't it the truth

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

want Washington wiped off the map?

Is that a serious question?

You grossly over-estimate our love for the US Government. Patriotic Americans are loyal to the Constitution, not necessarily the Government.

Ask me again in about 6 years

(sorry couldn't resist the set up for a good joke)

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: burdman30ott6
That sounds lovely, now behave like a good colonial subject lol

Oh, that old chestnut. :rollseyes: Please, convince her majesty's royal military to come over here and force us into compliance. It would satisfy the side conversation 3NL1GHT3N3D1 and are having at the very least. Westminster would look interesting with Old Glory flying over it.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Oh, that old chestnut. :rollseyes: Please, convince her majesty's royal military to come over here and force us into compliance. It would satisfy the side conversation 3NL1GHT3N3D1 and are having at the very least. Westminster would look interesting with Old Glory flying over it.

When a population of 66 million and a military budget of $10 billion thinks it can go toe to toe with a population of 350 million and a $681 billion a year military budget

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

LMGDAO!!! Oh, that's rich. Someone from the UK threatening the US with nuclear flexing and posturing.

LOL! Please tell me Alan Funt is going to emerge and show me where the hidden camera is that captured my reaction to that farcical threat.

a reply to: JBurns
I was just giving Burdman the truth that his hardman talk against my nation is just a load of bull# because we can hit you as well.
...crazy how far off topic we went though lol

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Oh, that old chestnut. :rollseyes: Please, convince her majesty's royal military to come over here and force us into compliance. It would satisfy the side conversation 3NL1GHT3N3D1 and are having at the very least. Westminster would look interesting with Old Glory flying over it.

When a population of 66 million and a military budget of $10 billion thinks it can go toe to toe with a population of 350 million and a $681 billion a year military budget

I'm not sure your military could even take out nth Korea ....

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Oh, that old chestnut. :rollseyes: Please, convince her majesty's royal military to come over here and force us into compliance. It would satisfy the side conversation 3NL1GHT3N3D1 and are having at the very least. Westminster would look interesting with Old Glory flying over it.

When a population of 66 million and a military budget of $10 billion thinks it can go toe to toe with a population of 350 million and a $681 billion a year military budget

Even other British people burst into laughter at that one...

If the judgement on nuclear capabilities and how a country at the UK's level could handle the world;s lone superpower toe to toe is any indication, that universal healthcare idea being supported doesn't seem to be very well thought out, yes?

Bring it on boys, the UK is a nuclear power with one sub patrolling somewhere within reach of you at any given time.
You have to be our friends, we have the same sticks as you, just not so many lol.
Millions would die and the UK would be obliterated, but we'd # your nation up and you know it, nuclear winter for you instant death for us.
Stop acting like the hard man of the world, you ain't.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

As if you'd be on the front lines. Bahahaha! Tough guy talk is easy when you're sitting behind a computer screen in AIaska.

If you were on the frontlines you wouldn't be asking for more war, you'd be praying that things would be settled peacefully. Such is life for keyboards warriors though.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy


In the same way as kid with a gameboy is a threat to the revenue stream at Chuck-E-Cheese, I suppose you have a point. You realize the US missile defense network will shoot down any small scale attack such as the type represented should the UK shoot their entire load all at once? www.forbes.com... Each THAAD shot has an 83% effective rate and they are initiated quickly enough to afford multiple shots at disabling the incoming missile.

If you take two shots and they each have an 80% chance of being effective, that means that only one out of every 25 warheads would get past the defenses to reach its target.

Within 3 shots, the UK would have expelled it's entire 120 nuke contingent and *may* hit a single US target. MAY. As I said, the threat is laughable and yes, the US is the hard man of the world.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

You certainly do love you goalpost moving qualifier scenarios, don't you?

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
On-topic, a nuclear power nation can defend itself and also supply universal healthcare to it's citizens.
It is a balance.

a reply to: burdman30ott6
Lol hard man of the world, yep, keep believing it bud, maybe we should go back to the universal healthcare topic though.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
On-topic, a nuclear power nation can defend itself and also supply universal healthcare to it's citizens.
It is a balance.

Allow me to steal a quote from you.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
Yes, and Britain was the masters of controlling the world

Wonder why Britain found themselves unable to retain any of their once massive control? Surely socialist policies and wasting all of their resources on domestic baby sitting couldn't have played any role in that erosion of power...

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

we actually have universal health care in the usa for a specific group of people. They are called 'veterans'. askl one of them how its working out for them.

a reply to: burdman30ott6
We still have 16 nations with the queen as their head of state, Canada is your nearest neighbough, colonies are great, something Britain is good at but the US not so much. You've lost most of your wars lol.
...but that is off-topic...the NHS is #ing amazing and I wish a similar system for everyone in the world. I know you don't, I'm just getting back on topic lol