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Rosenstein is no longer overseeing the Mueller probe per the DOJ

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posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

Problem is you trust the FBI and DOJ of the Obama era when you have no valid reason to do so. They were/are both dirty as a dish rag in a garbage pail.




posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: BlackJackal

She still was the one who made the decision and she didn’t revise herself

The fbi investigation was spearheaded by a rabid anti trump Hillary supporter who no one demanded be revised

And Whitaker saying mueller should be limited to Russia, which is what we were all told was what he was investigating doesn’t mean trump is rising above the law


She made what decision? The FBI and Comey recommended no charges.

It is literally against the law for Whitaker to be over the case and you are ok with it? What the hell is wrong with you? This defending Trump for the defense sake has to stop. You need to take a minute and think about what you are allowing the President and future Presidents to get away with.

For arguments sake, let's say that Trump is not guilty of anything at all and that he is acting guilty because he is a moron. He puts Whitaker in place the Mueller probe is dismantled and he serves another 6 years. I'm sure you would be happy.

The next guy elected is a Democrat, but this time he is guilty of something major. I don't know, China assisted him during the election in exchange for US military secrets. Well, the Republicans launch an investigation against him. His current attorney general is allowing the investigation to proceed. This new President then fires him and replaces him with an obviously biased cohort and no one can say crap because Trump did it already.

That is why no one is above the law, Whataboutisms are freaking logical fallicies and no matter how they make you feel don't mean anything.


Recusal is the act of a judge or prosecutor being removed or excusing one's self from a legal case due to conflict of interest or other good reason. Recusal is governed by federal laws and state laws and codes of ethics, which vary by state.

The U.S. Code provides:

"Any justice, judge, or magistrate of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.
He shall also disqualify himself in the following circumstances:

Where he has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party, or a personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning the proceeding;

Where in private practice he served as lawyer in the matter in controversy, or a lawyer with whom he previously practiced law served during such association as a lawyer has been a material witness concerning it;

Where he has served in governmental employment and in such capacity participated as counsel, adviser or material witness concerning the proceeding or expressed an opinion concerning the merits of the particular case in controversy;

He knows that he, individually or as a fiduciary, or his spouse or minor child residing in his household, has a financial interest in the subject matter in controversy or in a party to the proceeding, or any other interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding;

He or his spouse, or a person within the the third degree of relationship to either of them, or the spouse of such a person:

Is a party to the proceeding, or an officer, director, or trustee of a party;

Is acting as a lawyer in the proceeding;

Is known by the judge to have an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding;

Is to the judge's knowledge likely to be a material witness in the proceeding.

Serves as an instructor or on an advisory board of an educational institution that is a party to the proceeding.


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posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

YADA,YADA,YADA! BLAB, BLAB, BLAB! I have to give you an A+ for effort.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: BlackJackal
Getting conflicting information now from a source who is usually spot on. I'm honestly not sure who is in charge of what.


Mueller is not fussed. DAG Rosenstein isn’t fussed. There is nothing Trump can do.

He’s already indicted on at least three counts. One is RICO. A minimum of two are for a separate offense (sources used the plural, ‘counts’ without giving me a number).


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Are you posting that a sitting president will be criminally indicted?


NO, no. He's already been indicted (according to that) ...



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogany
Absolutely scandalous.

When you want to anticipate what this administration will do next, just think, "What would the mafia do?"


What is scandalous about it? Rosenstein was only in because Sessions removed himself, now that Sessions is out then there is no reason for Rosenstein to continues in his place...




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posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

What is the conflict of interest

Having an opinion on the scope of special counsel investigations is not a conflict of interest!

Show me the law saying it is.

Rosenstein made many comments on the special counsel and fbi investigation

Why wasn’t it against the law for him to be in charge?

Your argument is literally only a person who think muellers investor should be allowed to do whatever it wants should be allowed to be in charge of the inevestigatiom, or its illegal

Meanwhile you make excuses for lynch not refusing herself from the Hillary investigation

If the next guy is a dem, I fully expect them to appoint a attorney general that agrees with them

I would expect that person to be fully capable of looking in to matters involving that president

Or did you have a problem with a clearly pro Obama holder and lynch investigating Obama’s cabinet like yjenirs?

Your hypocrisy is noted and ridiculous



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 03:54 PM
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Whitaker has a clear conflict of interest in this case though. He wrote an op-ed in 2017 that clearly showed he was biased. He in no way can unbiasedly run the investigation. 


I don't think you know what a conflict of interest is.

He wrote something that shows he has a professional opinion. If everyone with an opinion recuses him-/herself, who is going to lead anything? Are all the Dems who've been blatantly and openly anti -Trump in statements going to recuse themselves from House and Senate investigations? Particularly the ones who are already on record as wanting to impeach him for something/anything?

A conflict of interest would be if Whittaker was a subject of the investigation.
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posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 03:57 PM
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Yes of course blackjackal will be screaming about corruption if the Dems that dislike trumo would dare to be in charge of an investigation against trump

That would be illegal, right jackal!

I mean, they have made public opinions so that’s a conflict of interest!



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogany
Absolutely scandalous.

When you want to anticipate what this administration will do next, just think, "What would the mafia do?"


He should never have been in charge with his myriad conflicts of interest.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal
According to the DOJ, Rosenstein is no longer overseeing the Mueller probe.


Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is no longer overseeing special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian election meddling — following the resignation of Jeff Sessions.

The investigation was being managed by Rosenstein because Sessions had recused himself.

With Sessions gone, Rosenstein will no longer oversee the probe — instead, it’ll be run by acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker, NBC News reported.


This situation is developing.

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The only reason he was is because Sessions recused himself. Now that Sessions is gone the authority goes back to the AG....as it is supposed to.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Willtell
According to the FOX news, on-site legal expert Judge Napolitano, Trump is again nearing obstruction of Justice with this act since the acting AG has clearly stated a negative opinion on the Mueller probe.

This is a bad move...Trump is likely going to crack-up under pressure.


So when Obama’s doj Lynch pressured people to hurry along the Hillary investigation, and fbi members jokes they knew there is possible way she would ever indict Hillary, and she met the he targets husband on a tarmac and didn’t refuse herself, was that obstruction?

Somehow that was cool, but an ag skeptical of muellers witch hunt, which was supposed to be about Russia but morphed into raiding lawyers for decades old financial info is obstruction?

If the new ag shuts down mueller, then we can talk

But at this point, people are saying obstruction and nothing has been done


Whitaker has a clear conflict of interest in this case though. He wrote an op-ed in 2017 that clearly showed he was biased. He in no way can unbiasedly run the investigation.


Whitaker has previously written an op-ed in 2017 titled "The finances of Trump or his family are beyond Mueller's purview." In that op-ed, Whitaker argued that "any investigation into President Trump's finances or the finances of his family would require Mueller to return to Rod Rosenstein for additional authority under Mueller's appointment as special counsel."


Surely even Trump supporters can see if this moves forward this is an extremely dangerous precedent. The President of the United States is installing a sympathetic supporter to oversee the investigation of the President. That happens in places like Russia, not the US.


And Mueller wasn't biased?



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: BlackJackal

YADA,YADA,YADA! BLAB, BLAB, BLAB! I have to give you an A+ for effort.


Let's see if Mueller gets investigated for misleading investigators when asked about rape accusations and his claim that he was not there the 2nd, when asked if he was there on and about the 2nd...like the 4th-5th of August don't count.

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posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

I am seeing reports he(RR) is resigning / out of a job in the next 48 hours from OANN.

and as always Democrats are once again screaming about whats going on.



Jack Posobiec
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#Breaking Rod Rosenstein will NO LONGER oversee the Robert Mueller investigation following the firing of Jeff Sessions

Acting AG Whitaker is now taking the reins to bring this circus to a close




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posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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Now @JudgeNap making the case on @FoxNews for the Acting Attorney General to recuse himself from oversight of the Mueller investigation.


twitter.com...

Its clear whoever is running this anumal farm scenerio, the elction has heated up the war.


Someone some where is having, as they say

A REALLY BIG SHOW

Trump I hnestly believe is going to bug out and really do the crazy



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:54 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: BlackJackal

I am seeing reports he(RR) is resigning / out of a job in the next 48 hours from OANN.

and as always Democrats are once again screaming about whats going on.



He shouldn't be allowed back in the building. Don't give him a chance to shred files before he is out.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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Something else to keep in mind and this deals with Q.

Q stated time and again Sessions was not going anywhere and this was all part of a dance they were doing. Seems Q was wrong on this one.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: CharlesT

Not without cause. Thems the rules.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Did you see that presser today?
Not going to.... he has cracked.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:58 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: CharlesT

Not without cause. Thems the rules.


Cause is not need to remove Mueller.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Talking to Comey was "obstruction", so tired of these NPCs crying Wolf




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