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The Elections Are Over. What Now?

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posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
So now that the midterms are in the rear view mirror it's time to look ahead and see what could possibly lie in store for the country over the next few months.

I think the next thing we will see almost immediately is Trump pushing very hard to get funding for his wall. If he can't secure it by the December deadline then he has pretty much lost any hope of getting it built. So expect him and his supporters to ramp up the fearmongering in regards to the caravan over the next month.

There are also rumors currently swirling that Sessions and/or Rosenstein could be on the way out. If this comes to pass expect these roles to be filled with Trump loyalists. Trump now has a stronger control over the Senate so he will pretty much be able to get whoever he wants appointed. If things had gone the other way and the Dems had taken control of the Senate he would have been forced to fill these roles with people that are more moderate.

One interesting thing I haven't seen discussed much is that we may see a shift in leadership for the Dems. While it's expected for Pelosi to be chosen as the new Speaker of the House it's not a 100% guarantee. She needs 218 votes in order to seize the position. Among the Dems running last night there were around 60 that openly stated they would not support her for the job. I haven't gone back and verified how many of those candidates actually got elected, but it wouldn't take many to spoil it. If this is the case we may see an informal campaign for the position. Some of the names I've seen thrown out as potential challengers are Tim Ryan from Ohio, Hakeem Jeffries from New York, Terri Sewell from Alabama, and John Yarmuth from Kentucky. There's also the possibility that Pelosi will throw her support behind Adam Schiff. This is definitely something worth keeping an eye on over the next few days to see if Pelosi actually has the numbers she needs.

One other place that we should keep our eye on is Texas. I've heard some rumblings that if O'Rourke lost to Cruz but did well enough he may consider going for a Presidential run in 2020. Losing by two points in traditionally Red Texas to a big name incumbent like Cruz could be enough to convince him that he has enough support to make a real go at the Oval Office. So it will be interesting to see if he starts shutting down his campaign or if he starts transitioning it for a 2020 run.

Of course that leads us to the other big thing that we can now start looking forward to, the lead up to the 2020 election. Expect to start seeing the Dems jockeying for who will be their candidate. I think Warren, Booker, and Harris are pretty much guaranteed to be throwing their hats in the ring. I also won't be surprised if Mark Warner gets involved. We may also see some more surprising names like O'Rourke or someone like Tulsi Gabbard. Although she'll only be 39 in 2020 so her youth may prevent her from being seen as a serious candidate.

So other than a possible government shutdown next month and the inevitable gridlock that will start in January that's pretty much how I see the next few months shaping up. Anyone else have predictions they want to share?


Immediately? We'll start seeing Presidential commercials from now till that election...in 2020




posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Two scoops of ice cream are more important than presumption of guilt over innocence with a lack of evidence.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: GeechQuestInfo

My guess it was the burnie bros that flipped and voted trump in those stats that got trump the win.

That isn't going to happen in 2020. The bernies are very much back on the dem team, with all the dem-soc women being elected.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

The progs got half what they wanted. Maybe we can stop the endless REEEEE and get back to some nice doom porn for a change.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Sillyolme

I see someone has chosen her path.

A poor choice, but a choice.

TheRedneck

Silly is still on the same path chosen years ago. Logic hasn't transformed her/him.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 02:21 PM
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a reply to: TonyS

Think of the FBI as a loaded machine gun with a hair trigger. Whoever is the FBI Director has his hand on that trigger. Even the President is often unable to control the FBI... they worried both Eisenhower and Nixon. They actually took out Nixon by exposing Watergate.

The FBI has had, since the early days of J. Edgar Hoover, a database on every single politician in Washington DC, and anyone in a state government that appears to be a rising star and might be in Washington DC. They investigate thoroughly, constantly, and relentlessly. Whenever an elected official enters the Beltway, they get a little visit from the FBI, explaining all the dirt they have on them and what will happen if they are crossed. Any move against the FBI is political suicide.

J. Edgar Hoover's corpse is the most powerful entity in DC.

Now enter Donald J. Trump. There was no investigation into a New York real estate tycoon... why should there be? He can't affect policy. But then he wins the Presidency without a single chance for the FBI to investigate ahead of time. The resulting Mueller investigation was the FBI's way of solving that problem... but they couldn't find anything on him. He's no saint, but he's not exactly dirty either. Every single allegation, thrown out as soon as it was exposed, was laughed off by his base... Stormy Daniels, sexual allegations, his real estate school, his companies' bankruptcies... nothing stuck. Even going after those around Trump... Cohen, Papadapoulous, et. al., turned up ntohing.

So, unlike his predecessors, Trump was able to fire Comey, and fire him in a way that kept him from being able to cover any of his tracks. Then McCabe... Strzok... Page... Ohr... he took down the entire leadership. Sessions was there for his contacts in the intelligence community; he was able to get behind-the-scenes investigations into FBI leaders started. Not sure yet what Rosenstein's involvement in the plan was.

The FBI is now thoroughly under Trump's control, and the Democrats know it. They're scared silly. The dirt that the FBI had on them now is held by Wray, under the control of Trump. They need their base, but they have to keep their dirt from being exposed... so all they can do is try anything possible to get to a Mexican standoff with Trump. That's what the blue wave was... get the entire Congress back under Democrat control and weaponize investigations into lies to the point Trump will lose credibility with his base.

Don't get me wrong... the Republicans are scared too. But they decided to work with Trump, because it didn't cost them their base.

I've been quietly following this theory since Comey was fired. All the pieces fall into place as time goes on. I have a sneaking feeling that the latest wave of Democrats are going to be strong-armed into dealing with Trump to get his wall.

TheRedneck



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: CharlesT

I would have hoped last night would have woken her some... alas, no.

TheRedneck



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 02:25 PM
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posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Without the Senate?

Good luck with that complete waste of time.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: TonyS

This bull run has already outlived historical runs. I have been expecting a stock downturn for the past year.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker




Granted he had the most expensive senate campaign in the country to date.


...and lost. I doubt they'll run someone who can't win a Senate race in Texas.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 02:51 PM
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I knew this was coming. Rosenstine will be next.

www.washingtonpost.com... dcd53ca6b_story.html?utm_term=.44256c7f1d12

Attorney General Jeff Sessions resigns at Trump’s request
edit on 7-11-2018 by CharlesT because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: CharlesT

I don't know. I tend to think that Rosenstein is there to do a job, and he's getting protection from exposure for doing that job. Then again, Trump is notoriously hard to read accurately (probably one reason he's so successful at negotiation).

TheRedneck

P.S.: Your link is broken... 404.

edit on 11/7/2018 by TheRedneck because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: CriticalStinker




Granted he had the most expensive senate campaign in the country to date.


...and lost. I doubt they'll run someone who can't win a Senate race in Texas.


I included that specifically for people to make their own decision on that matter.

That said, barely losing a senate race in Texas isn't losing IMO.

Many would adorn a Republican having similar results in California (for senate).

It's all about context.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: CharlesT

Oh, crap! I managed to get your link up... did NOT see that one coming!

TheRedneck



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck


Now enter Donald J. Trump. There was no investigation into a New York real estate tycoon... why should there be?


Don't forget that the original purpose of the FBI was to bring down organized crime. Trump owned a casino in Atlantic City. Do you really think the FBI hasn't had their eye on Trump for a while?



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

I suppose it could work that way.

True enough, context helps...still can't see it happening, but one should never underestimate the DNC...or is it overestimate??




posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: seagull

My guess is they try and pull an old trick, run with Biden and say "he's not Trump, hell, he's almost Obama"....

Something along those lines.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

At the moment, that's all they've got.

Retreads. Even he's a better choice than Biden, and some other retread. If they want to win...sometimes, I have to wonder.

They've got two years to figure this out. An actual competent legislator would be a good place to start.

A reasonably young up and comer should at least be brought to the front.



posted on Nov, 7 2018 @ 04:39 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

No, I don't. Organized crime might have been the impetus for forming the FBI, but it wasn't their purpose... that was political, and has been ever since Eisenhower was President.

Do some searching for Eisenhower's concerns about the FBI under Hoover. You'll be shocked by what you find.

TheRedneck




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