a reply to: Grambler
So there was no wave of any color, so it looks like no surfing for us.
I disagree. I think the Democrats did about as well as was predicted. They may end up taking a few more seats in the House than was expected (+35 or
so?) and lose a seat or two more in the Senate (-3 to -5) but all of the models showed them only having something like a 14% chance of taking the
Senate going into this. The seats that have been flipped so far aren't exactly shockers either. Heitkamp? McCaskill? (though Donnelly was toss up, I
thought he'd pull it out)
There were some notable disappointments, particularly in Florida and maybe GA depending on how this governor race goes. All in all, it was about what
I think most sane people expected. Speaking of which, the Dems have also picked up 5 governorships and will possibly pick up 1-2 more. That's pretty
much in line with predictions.
Was it a tsunami? No. But it was more than a ripple. To be fair, it was a solid night for the Republicans in the Senate too. They'll definitely be
breathing even easier when it comes to confirmations.
I will say that it was quite a tsunami for women, including the Republicans.
However, what is more interesting to me is where is the massive blue wave that most of the dems in power and media promised us? They said that
trump was so hated that his party would be wiped out.
What media are you referring to? I'm asking because I haven't been seeing any promises like that. I've seen a lot of people who were a little gun shy
following the 2016 elections not wanting to commit to much.
Now although republicans did lose the house, it is almost always the case that a sitting presidents party loses in the midterms. And trumps
party did much better than Obamas did after his first two years.
That's true but usually they're not getting the benefit of the sort of economic metrics that Trump is getting. Imagine if he didn't have that going
So maybe, just maybe, the whole country doesnt think trump is a racist fascist authoritarian that is the worst person ever.
Or maybe the caravan arrived just in time to get the racist authoritarians to the polls? Or maybe it was rigged? I hear these things are rigged.
You could also posit that maybe the midterm fear mongering over immigration and "violent left-wing mobs" wasn't the best strategy and it actually
hampered the Republicans.
Either way, no blue wave.
I'm calling it a wave.
In addition, many of the new faces in the senate and house on the republican side are bigger fans of trump, meaning they are more likely to
fight for his agenda. While that may be tough in the House, in the senate, it seems like the added seats and the fact they are more pro trump will be
a great boon to Trump.
The Democrats also just elected a bunch of fresh faces, many of them young and quite a few are vets too. Could be a good time to get some rebuilding
done. I'd except to see some of these folks trying to make a name for themselves.
I think that we're heading for some # next year. That rumbling about the debt is going to get louder. If tax revenue doesn't spike *a lot*, then what?
How are we going to justify having a booming economy AND piling on record debt? We're not. So then how much from where are Republicans going to trying
Also, I wonder if almost the entirety of people with cultural power in this country, almost all of academia, almost all of the msm, and almost
all of the people that control social media werent mouth pieces for the democrats, how would the election have turned out?
Are you saying that smart and talented people are disproportionately leftists? It's not all bad, you've got both Scott Baio and Antonio Sabato Jr. —
oh and the Dilbert guy.
Just like with the Hillary election, even with all the cards stacked in tgheir favor, having control of almost all institutions that influence
public opinion, the dems still cant make significant gains.
Lol. The Republicans have a number of baked in advantages: like the EC and Senate apportionment — the fact that the liberal base is clumped up in
population centers which means that whiles millions and millions of Democratic voters in a state like California are represented by 2 Senators, a
similar number of GOP voters spread over a dozen reliably red low population states are represented by 24.
Then there's the chronic gerrymandering and the fact that Republicans are running amok purging voter registrations, closing polling stations, changing
polling hours, suppressing votes wherever possible.
Then of course in 2016, they literally had a foreign power meddling in the election to help them. Let's not forget that. This time around this caravan
organizing jackass decided to give Trump and friends something to talk about.
Imagine if even 30% of these institutions had right wing people, what a change that would lead to.
You don't think that 30% of the media is right-leaning? You're wrong. Didn't you catch the thread? Fox news topped CNN and MSNBC combined in viewers
last month. That's a bigger than 50% share of cable "news." I mean, Trump literally trotted out the Fox lineup at a rally yesterday. Basically all
political talk radio is conservative. There's no shortage of right-wing websites. They're also dominating local TV — with Sinclair forcing its
affiliates to run its prerecorded propaganda segments during local news broadcasts. The "alternative media" is dominated by right-wing hackery. And of
course, there's literal fake news.
Really, the areas where the Right is most lacking in the media are newspapers and national news form the big 3 broadcast networks. I guarantee in
terms of consumption, right-wing media accounts for way more than 30%.
Yet still the dems will pretend to be "fighting the power".
You mean like how Republicans have deluded themselves into believing the ivy league educated billionaire globalist is fighting the "global elites?"
And how his base has basically appropriated the left-wing anti-establishment lexicon and changed all the meanings? The same people who # all over OWS
back in 2011, the authoritarians who get goosebumps every time they hear "law and order" and screech for the government to "pull CNN's broadcast
license" and lock up everyone they don't like.
What's more absurd? Dems pretending to "fight the power" or the above people going from borderline neo-fascist fantasizing to calling people
"statists?" There's nothing more ironic to me than somebody in a MAGA hat who is all "Antifa! Antifa! Antifa!" when in reality, while basically
appropriated the whole anti-established "fight the power" "down with the globalist elite" shtick.
SO it will be fun to watch both sides claim tghis as a great victory, when the truth is it is basically a draw.
Meanwhile, we'll call it basically a draw and then get into long drawn out explanations about how the outcome *really* bodes well for one side or the
The real winners are all of us that dont have to have those stupid campaign ads interupt our hockey viewing anymore!
Not a hockey fan but amen to the end of stupid campaign ads!