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Look at all of these deplorables

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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: loam
a reply to: verschickter

I think he was being sarcastic. You don't honestly think he believes we should "listen to the celebrities, listen to the MSM and listen to the heads of all the large international NGO's."





Isn't your President a celebrity, or was, or still is?




posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:08 AM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal
a reply to: loam

A better example would be how they react if a counter-protester fainted.

Whataboutism.

Always a good talking point.

If it were a "nazi" at a Maxine rally, they would've beaten them over the head with a bike lock.

(See, I can play your reindeer games too Rudolph)



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: loam



...You don't honestly think he believes...

Yes I do, maybe I take posts too literally. Maybe it´s because making bad nazi comparisions is my pet-peeve, as a German. Can´t see anything funny or ironic in it.

Thanks for the heads-up.

In Sacramento they have the annual Pig Bowl. It's a football game between the sheriff's department and the police department. They embraced the insult to name their football game after it. Maybe learn to embrace the idiocy of it all and stop worrying about perception. You'll live longer. I promise.




posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: loam

The woman was probably standing too long, and singing amazing grace? Trump is a politician not an flipping televangelist.

But i'm sure some the right wing zealots couldn't tell the difference, sure what Trump did was commendable, but some of his supporters would drink the kool-aid if he told them to.
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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: loam
a reply to: verschickter

I think he was being sarcastic. You don't honestly think he believes we should "listen to the celebrities, listen to the MSM and listen to the heads of all the large international NGO's."





Pretty sure we could list 2-3 dozen regular posters who think exactly that...some right in this very thread!



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal
a reply to: loam

A better example would be how they react if a counter-protester fainted.



Trump would pay the legal fees if they kicked the protestor while fainted. He promised before if a counter protestor was knocked out.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: BlackJackal
a reply to: loam

A better example would be how they react if a counter-protester fainted.

Whataboutism.

Always a good talking point.

If it were a "nazi" at a Maxine rally, they would've beaten them over the head with a bike lock.

(See, I can play your reindeer games too Rudolph)


If you want to see people getting violent with protesters look in a few of trumps rallies in 2016



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 12:09 PM
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Amazing how thousands of people do something right in a spontaneous manner, and all some people can do is hyperventilate about something bad they *might* do (read sick fantasy) in a different context.

It must really suck to live in your heads.


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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 12:14 PM
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Sorry if anyone is offended by thinking this is the kind of America I want.
To me, it represents the best of who we are as people.
Amazing indeed.
I was beginning to think the country I was born in was gone.
Nope, it's still here singing it's heart out.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: loam


Ummm...how absolutely...

deplorable...







YouSir



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: rollanotherone

I understand these kind of things. But consider being deep throated with nazi-history for around 2 years during history classes, 2-3 hours a week. While it wasn´t official, we were shown videos that makes snuff films pale in comparision.

Then you also get some guilt installed (that wears of when you realize, it´s not your fault) and that you are not allowed to forget because lessons to be learned et cetera.

So, no, when it comes to labeling someone a nazi or comparing arbitrary stuff to the thrid reich, for the sake of an argument, in that moment, this person has lost all credibility for a long time.

And I´m going to point out their idiocy.

cheers

Beside that, the term for radical national-socialists like around Hitlers time -"NAZI"- can only be applied to those who were part of that regime. Everyone else is a neo-nazi. If we don´t value the meaning of words anymore, why even have a conversation.

I mean this in general, not directed at you.
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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: rollanotherone

If we don´t value the meaning of words anymore, why even have a conversation.



Pretty much where we are at in the US.

All of the '-isms', '-ists', and '-phobes' have been rendered completely meaningless.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: rollanotherone

I understand these kind of things. But consider being deep throated with nazi-history for around 2 years during history classes, 2-3 hours a week. While it wasn´t official, we were shown videos that makes snuff films pale in comparision.

Then you also get some guilt installed (that wears of when you realize, it´s not your fault) and that you are not allowed to forget because lessons to be learned et cetera.

So, no, when it comes to labeling someone a nazi or comparing arbitrary stuff to the thrid reich, for the sake of an argument, in that moment, this person has lost all credibility for a long time.

And I´m going to point out their idiocy.

cheers

Beside that, the term for radical national-socialists like around Hitlers time -"NAZI"- can only be applied to those who were part of that regime. Everyone else is a neo-nazi. If we don´t value the meaning of words anymore, why even have a conversation.

I mean this in general, not directed at you.

Very well stated. I am sorry your government forced this upon the German people. Here in the US, it's only slightly similar with the Indian genocide. We're taught we did horrible things to them, but that was pretty much it. No guilt shaming or snuff movies. Just trail of tears stuff and blankets.

Be proud of your ancestry.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: MisterSpock


You owe me for a new sarcasm meter... mine is shattered to such a degree there is no repairing it.






posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: loam

That´s terrible because not many things in the world are binary. As in: black and white, good and bad, right or wrong.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 01:15 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz

originally posted by: rollanotherone

originally posted by: BlackJackal
a reply to: loam

A better example would be how they react if a counter-protester fainted.

Whataboutism.

Always a good talking point.

If it were a "nazi" at a Maxine rally, they would've beaten them over the head with a bike lock.

(See, I can play your reindeer games too Rudolph)


If you want to see people getting violent with protesters look in a few of trumps rallies in 2016

Oh yeah. I remember when they threw garbage cans through windows and set fire to that limo. And that angry MAGA guy smacking that guy with a bike lock. Yup. I totally remember that. Or that severed head video.

It's these people that gave birth to Kyle Chapman.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: verschickter

I like to consider myself fairly well read when it comes to History, went out of my way to read up the major conflicts in history.


Even read some books covering the troops that liberated the camps, yet even with all the reading I had done I still made missteps when living in Germany.

If I am being honest, I never really understood the horror of the camps till I walked through some of them and then it crashed home.

For people never exposed to the horror its hard to truly understand the atrocities that were committed.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: verschickter

I lived in Germany before reunification and had many occasions to speak to older Germans who lived as adults during the war period.

No doubt. Even saying that period was complex is an understatement.
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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

Seeing is believing.

Visiting the camps is on a whole other level than just reading about them.

ETA:

Washington, DC has the Holocaust Museum. In it, near the entrance or exit (I can't recall), is a display of hundreds of shoes in a pile. It literally made me sick for days.
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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 01:44 PM
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a reply to: loam


Havent been to DC in 30 years, if work ever takes me there I will check it out.


When I went to Dachau with a group of GI's we encountered an older gent whos father served in the war, and he himself served post war and group up around Dachau so he had a lot of personal information from the German view point.


What a horribly sad and terrible thing to live with hanging over your head.



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