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Just a simple question here. What are Americans voting for this time around

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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 07:53 AM
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a reply to: luthier

I want to keep my taxes lower.

Democrats want to raise taxes.


Simple, really.




posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 07:54 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: luthier

I want to keep my taxes lower.

Democrats want to raise taxes.


Simple, really.



It really doesn't make any difference if they can't raise revenue to pay for the spending.


Penny wise and pound stupid is the phrase.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 07:56 AM
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These midterms are unique because almost everyone is voting against something or someone not for anything new.

It's all about what you want to keep, or what you don't want to lose.

It's also a referendum on Trump's presidency.

We know what the democrats will do with their power if they win, we know what republicans will do with their power if they keep it.

The choice is that simple.

Regardless of the outcome, the turnout for these midterms is impressive. It's a beautiful thing.


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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:07 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: jtrenthacker
In my state of Michigan?

Weed.


For purely medical purposes.....
Am I right?
Huh?

Lol....


Uuuh....yes.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:13 AM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: musicismagic

They're voting for:

Free speech
smaller Govt
less taxes
personal responsibility
more jobs
continued economic growth
Upholding the laws

They're voting against:

Authoritarianism
Victim mentality
Nanny state
Corruption
Censorship



So you vote libertarian. Good.





posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: luthier

Democrats have gone so far left that there is no balance anymore between the parties.

We need a new opposition party.

Libertarians could provide it. Alternatively, #WalkAway folks could either form their own party or start to work within the Democrat party to take control again. There are a few sane Democrats left, but they are marginalized by the crazy.

Right now, the wing that is in control is the Venezuela wing for lack of a better description. Instead of agitating for a workers revolt because most American workers are pretty content, they are using the social justice grievance group model to agitate for revolt. That approach looks to be far more successful.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:14 AM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: luthier

I want to keep my taxes lower.

Democrats want to raise taxes.


Simple, really.



It really doesn't make any difference if they can't raise revenue to pay for the spending.


Penny wise and pound stupid is the phrase.


Another way to look at it, is that sooner or later, these things will correct themselves. They can only pretend to defy math for so long.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:14 AM
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originally posted by: ausername
These midterms are unique because everyone is voting against something or someone not for anything new.

It's all about what you want to keep, or what you don't want to lose.

It's also a referendum on Trump's presidency.

We know what the democrats will do with their power if they win, we know what republicans will do with their power if they keep it.

The choice is that simple.

Regardless of the outcome, the turnout for these midterms is impressive. It's a beautiful thing.



The main thing people should be worried about on local elections is Marijuana.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:16 AM
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a reply to: musicismagic

I think you pretty much summed it up. I have nothing else to add really.
I can only hope things get better though!



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:18 AM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: musicismagic

They're voting for:

Free speech
smaller Govt
less taxes
personal responsibility
more jobs
continued economic growth
Upholding the laws

They're voting against:

Authoritarianism
Victim mentality
Nanny state
Corruption
Censorship


This is what I am voting for!



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:20 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I can't really argue much against what you wrote.

I just hope you can feel the pain of someone who wished there were fiscal conservatives and there were people who vote for liberty.

Unfortunately the far left being bad doesnt make that any more real than superman.


My point is it's just as damaging to always say well the left is worse even though the people I vote for are complete shams..my point with vote out incombants is the new people can be held accountable. They dont yet have the tentacles in the pot.

A 35 year Republican incombant who voted away our rights isn't somehow better than the democratic choice simply because they say different things. The voting is what we should care about. How the reps vote.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:21 AM
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A question for the socialists.

Now I can't prove this for I am but a single, simple person, but I am of the belief that the leaders of the what they describe as the "progressive left" or "Democratic-Socialism" are in fact bloodthirsty Marxists in waiting. That is why I always argue in favor of classical liberalism because it allows for the exploration of socialist ideas such as socialized medicine without the ill effect of putting mad dog Marxists in power. It's kind of like the concept of how you'd like to see the United States construct a smarter and more efficient immigration policy, but don't want a roving band of orange-skinned lunatics in tanks patrolling our borders.

I don't know, maybe that is just me. Perhaps I am the crazy one here.

But for the sake of argument, let's forget all of those assumptions and instead assume that they are in fact genuine "democratic-socialists" as they claim. Now, carefully describe to me how in this age of mass manipulation, fracturing society and communities, the looming threat of the abuse of technologies such as A.I. by government entities like we've seen in China or even already here in the U.S. with mass surveillance, advanced analytics and biometrics, et al. -- how in this age and place are you going to prevent the Thermidorian reaction that has befallen nearly every socialist movement before you in history when they had far fewer tools for totalitarian terror? What is your check and balance against this? And please don't mindlessly utter their rhetoric of "the people" because you and I both know that is simply false.

You do realize that the soft socialists, too, were slaughtered once the hardcore Marxists attained absolute power, right? How does this not concern you?

Can you not simply look around the state of the world right now and see that things are swinging wildly to one extreme or the other? The only thing in moderation these days is moderation itself. What makes you so sure that this is just going to be ol' Grandpa Bernie's kind-hearted & caring version of soft socialism?



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:21 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: luthier

I want to keep my taxes lower.

Democrats want to raise taxes.


Simple, really.



It really doesn't make any difference if they can't raise revenue to pay for the spending.


Penny wise and pound stupid is the phrase.


Another way to look at it, is that sooner or later, these things will correct themselves. They can only pretend to defy math for so long.


Ok twice now we agreed, now what?



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:23 AM
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For those not familiar with the USA's election cycles, and to put the ideological comments into some context...

We have elections for office every two years. The leap years are the presidential elections. The midterms are for electing new state governors in most (but not all) states, who are elected every four years in most (but not all states). Many states are electing new Senators (2 per state, six-year terms) and Representatives (varies by state depending on total population, two-year terms).

Other state positions on the ballot would include attorneys general, judges, school board, and state legislators. Some states have a process for citizens adding propositions for new laws to the ballot -- marijuana decriminalization for example.

There may be more local positions on the ballot as well, such as county sheriffs or city mayors.

But on the national level, the midterms are important due to the elections for Congress -- both the House of Representatives and the Senate. Right now, Republicans hold the majority in both houses. Republicans of course want to keep and even increase their majority in both houses, increasing support for Trump; Democrats naturally want to take the majority in both houses, decreasing and thwarting Trump.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:23 AM
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Well, I can vote out an incumbent who has a better voting record or I can vote in someone who will definitely follow Nancy Pelosi 100% of the time for 2 years, and I know her record.

Those are my choices.

Thankfully, on the Senate side, I can and will hold an incumbent accountable.
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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

So then you're voting libertarian. Sweet!




posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: luthier

Well, I can vote out an incumbent who has a better voting record or I can vote in someone who will definitely follow Nancy Pelosi 100% of the time for 2 years, and I know her record.


Douche & Turd!

Typical.




posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:27 AM
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I guess it depends what state you are in.

In my state I care more about how my reps take what the people in my community want to Washington. I dont really care what party they are from. My state has less than a million people so their isn't much funny money to grab. Even our governors had a civil election.

I assume both parties are equally corrupt and then I vote based on how the representation is doing for the community. Our big issues are internet for farmers and getting first responders psychological support.


I dont think one party votes away the constitution better. And the literal evidence is Republicans have done as much damage as Democrats.
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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: sooth

I think you said a lot of good things there.

I will say that Bernie is fine,...for Vermont. Vermont is like a Sweden it has a very low homogeneous population. The decisions of how money and taxes are used is much more localized and much less big money players tampering.

Bernie is not fine for America. America needs an independent or a libertarian/third party at the executive level for a couple terms to kill off some of this bacteria infecting politics.

America needs someone who is going to understand why the 10th is important.

Not someone to make America Vermont or South Carolina.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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We are voting for either globalism (Democrat) or national sovereignty (Republican) and/or more regulation (Democrat) vs less regulation (Republican). We're voting for freedom (Republican) vs control (Democrat). We're also voting for either unity (Republican) or racist identity separatism (Democrat) & we're voting to support the constitution (Reuplican), including the 2nd amendment, due-process & the Electoral College, unlike Democrats who are openly against the constitution & America.



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