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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ketsuko




I never noticed it stopping Obama from doing what he wanted.

Maybe that's because he had some good ideas that were bi-partisan in nature. Or maybe you weren't paying attention.

Too worried about his birth certificate maybe.


Sure Obanma didnt need leashed, trump does.

Hahahaha!




posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Grambler



Only twice in the past 60 years or so have they not.

I make it 4 times.
1962
1966
1978
2002

Does that mean it's meaningless?


No but basically normal.

So the idea that trump is so bad that caused his party to lose the house, which was being pushed by the msm, is a joke.


How about the mid-term turnout? Normal?


Higher thaan normal, on both sides.

Again, that doesnt show the msm narrative that trump is so loathsome that it caused his party to be crushed.


Didn't he, himself, cast this as a referendum on his presidency?



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: Phage

I rarely agree with you lately but I agree with you only in the sense that if Trump does propose a good idea, even bipartisan it will still be rejected by the left.

They don't care about policy, or good ideas. They'll vote against Trump no matter what the issue. Their platform is based soley on their hatred for Trump.
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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 10:59 PM
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originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Grambler



Only twice in the past 60 years or so have they not.

I make it 4 times.
1962
1966
1978
2002

Does that mean it's meaningless?


No but basically normal.

So the idea that trump is so bad that caused his party to lose the house, which was being pushed by the msm, is a joke.


How about the mid-term turnout? Normal?


Higher thaan normal, on both sides.

Again, that doesnt show the msm narrative that trump is so loathsome that it caused his party to be crushed.


Didn't he, himself, cast this as a referendum on his presidency?


Ok?

So he gained in the senate, lost in theb house.

Obama was crushed after year two in both.

SO using you and trumps criteria, he is more doing better than Obama.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 10:59 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ketsuko




I never noticed it stopping Obama from doing what he wanted.

Maybe that's because he had some good ideas that were bi-partisan in nature. Or maybe you weren't paying attention.

Too worried about his birth certificate maybe.


Sure Obanma didnt need leashed, trump does.

Hahahaha!



Obama pretty well leashed, actually.

Including by a Senate which refused to consider his SCOTUS nominee.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 10:59 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Grambler




Lets not forget that the sitting president almost always has his party lose power in the midterms.


Losing seats, yes. Losing the House or Senate?



Average loss for the party of a sub-.500 approval rating is 40 seats. Trump is (apparently) the least popular president in recent history. That's why they were hoping for 50 seats a few short months ago.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:00 PM
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originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: AtlasHawk

The Muslims are Burning France to the Ground . In Sweden . Finland , Norway and Germany , the Same will happen in the Not to Distant Future . All Distinct European Culture Will be Gone Forever in 10 Years . Europe IS Dead , Only they do Not Know it Yet .


Complete made up horse# - even the neo nazi's in Europe claim it's be 50 years. Europe is alive and well - we've been at peace for the longest time in history under the EU.

There is no Sharia, there are burka bans in many countries, there are bans on religious discrimination, there are bans on extremisms and rasicalisation/having links to extremist groups - Muslims make up aroun2 -4% population tops and 90% are moderates just like any other human being,



GOOD ! Rise Europe ! You ain't Dead Yet !



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:01 PM
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originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ketsuko




I never noticed it stopping Obama from doing what he wanted.

Maybe that's because he had some good ideas that were bi-partisan in nature. Or maybe you weren't paying attention.

Too worried about his birth certificate maybe.


Sure Obanma didnt need leashed, trump does.

Hahahaha!



Obama pretty well leashed, actually.

Including by a Senate which refused to consider his SCOTUS nominee.


I suppose they could have sat on sexual assault allegations with no proof and tried to ruin garlands life.

Thats how the party that needs to "leash" trump does it.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:04 PM
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Obama was crushed after year two in both.

No. The Democrats retained the Senate. And as you said, it's "normal" to lose seats in the midterm.


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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:05 PM
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originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Grambler



Only twice in the past 60 years or so have they not.

I make it 4 times.
1962
1966
1978
2002

Does that mean it's meaningless?


No but basically normal.

So the idea that trump is so bad that caused his party to lose the house, which was being pushed by the msm, is a joke.


How about the mid-term turnout? Normal?


Higher thaan normal, on both sides.

Again, that doesnt show the msm narrative that trump is so loathsome that it caused his party to be crushed.


Didn't he, himself, cast this as a referendum on his presidency?


So did Obama in 2010.


Sixty-eight days is still an eternity in politics, but, at this point, its hard not to envision some serious political backlash.
Much like the signs we’ve all seen in expensive boutiques, “you break it, you buy it,” President Obama has no one to blame but himself and his political team for what will likely happen in November and, much like those signs, he will have to take responsibility for those losses.


And we all remember what happened then.

It seems that Obamacare was less popular than the tax reform.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Grambler




Obama was crushed after year two in both.

No. The Democrats retained the Senate. And as you said, it's "normal" to lose seats in the midterm.



They maintained a slight majority but lost a whopping 6 seats.

Here this outlined how bad it was for Obama


The Democratic Party under Barack Obama in 2010 suffered the greatest defeat for a newly elected president in a midterm since the Republican Party under Warren Gamaliel Harding in 1922. Democrats, at this writing, dropped 61 seats in the House of Representatives, where they will now be in the minority, and 6 seats in the Senate, where they will continue to hold a slight edge. The Democratic defeat was historic by other measures as well--in House seats lost in a congressional election (the most since 1948), and in House seats lost in any midterm (the most since 1938). But it is the performance of a president's party following his first election that is the relevant point of comparison today.


www.realclearpolitics.com...



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:06 PM
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Oh, they'll impeach him for colluding with Russia no matter what Mueller's report says.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:06 PM
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It seems that Obamacare was less popular than the tax reform.

Seems it's grown on people. Seems people don't think it's such a bad idea any more.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Yup. Tea Party.

And a really bad recession.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Most people receiving subsidies quickly become dependent, yes. Much like most people who take meth will quickly start to like it too.
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posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:09 PM
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Yeah. So did people who could get coverage when they never could before. Because, cancer and stuff.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:10 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ketsuko

Yeah. So did people who could get coverage when they never could before. Because, cancer and stuff.


And then people who live in some states lost all their providers leaving them with no care options or maybe only one.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:10 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Grambler

Yup. Tea Party.

And a really bad recession.


Again whats your point?

I am saying that the dems made it seem l;ike trump was so bad he would have his party suffer a historic defeat.

he did not, and actually gained ground in the senate.

The dems hero who they say was a far superior president to trump did suffer a historic defeat in his first midterm.

So the dems and their media mouth pieces were wrong.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:11 PM
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25 flips...get ready to be rounded up and put on marches to the death camps.



posted on Nov, 6 2018 @ 11:12 PM
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Just wow



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