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Trump's own tweet proved to be his downfall in emoluments case and tax releases.

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posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:24 AM
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If you remember several months back Trump took away the security clearance of former CIA director John Brennan. Shortly afterwards John Brennan threatened to sue the Trump Administration and Trump fired back to Brennan on Twitter with this tweet:


I hope John Brennan, the worst CIA Director in our country’s history, brings a lawsuit. It will then be very easy to get all of his records, texts, emails and documents to show not only the poor job he did, but how he was involved with the Mueller Rigged Witch Hunt. He won’t sue!


TWITTER

Fast forward to last Friday in US District Court. During a hearing in which the Trump administration was asking for a stay in the suite that alleges Trump is violating the Constitution by doing business with foreign governments because "it would be a burden and too much of a “distraction” for the president to deal with while running the country." However, the judge pointed to the tweet above as evidence the president is no t too busy to defend himself from lawsuits since he asked John Brennan to sue him.

Other arguments put forward by the Presidents legal team were that the term 'emoluments' is the subject of such:


“substantial grounds of disagreement” that payments his business received from foreign governments could not qualify. The judge did not agree: “The Court finds this a dubious proposition.”


From the point of view of Trump's attorneys this case places undue burdens on the President making it difficult for him to deal with this case and run the country:


Justice Department attorneys argued that the lawsuit should ultimately be dismissed because it was a burden for Trump, distracting from his duties as a sitting president. The department issued a statement signaling it would appeal again.

“The Department of Justice disagrees with and is disappointed by this ruling,” said spokeswoman Kelly Laco. “This case, which should have been dismissed, presents important questions that warrant immediate appellate review.”


However, it appears that the defense options available to the President in this case are very small indeed since he was counting on a longshot to get the case stalled.


In his 31-page opinion, Messitte rejected Trump’s argument that this case should be halted so it could be appealed midstream — a request typically granted in extraordinary circumstances, where an unresolved legal question makes it hard to go on.


From the point of view of the plaintiffs (DAs from Maryland and DC) they view all the legal maneuvering as ways to protect the president from discovery, which could allow attorneys access to the Presidents tax returns among other documents:


The Justice Department “is attempting to delay discovery in our case,” said Maryland Attorney General Brian E. Frosh (D), who brought the case along with D.C. Attorney General Karl A. Racine (D). “Their ultimate argument was that this the president of the United States, he’s too busy.”

But Messitte had rejected that argument earlier, and in this opinion he noted, wryly, that — instead of avoiding legal battles — Trump seems to seek them out while in the White House.

Messitte noted Trump’s threats to sue author Michael Wolff and former adviser Stephen K. Bannon, and Trump’s taunting of former CIA director John Brennan in August. After Trump revoked Brennan’s security clearance, Trump wrote on Twitter: “I hope John Brennan, the worst CIA Director in our country’s history, brings a lawsuit.”

“It bears noting that the President himself seems to have had little reluctance to pursue personal litigation despite the supposed distractions it imposes on his office,” Messitte wrote.


Ultimately, unless the DOJ is able to pull off a hailmary greater than this one, we should start seeing Trump financial information leaked within a month.

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posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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Just another Liberal Loon wet dream fantasy....



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

I hope his tax returns don't get leaked, but that they get released & soon!

That way, we will be two years removed of this topic in 2020, when Trump is up for re-election!



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: Gothmog

Yep, them court cases sure are fake. If you read further into the article you can see that this judge already believes Trump is guilty of violating the emoluments clause.


In an earlier ruling, Messitte had found that the definition of word emoluments, in the context of the late 1700s, was broad enough to include sales of goods or services. By the judge’s logic, that definition meant that Trump could be taking emoluments merely by renting ballrooms to foreign-government customers.

Trump had objected, saying that the word should be defined more narrowly, to mean only payments made to Trump specifically to influence his behavior as president.

“By every reasonable metric, [Trump’s definition] appears to describe what is tantamount to a bribe,” the judge wrote in the Friday decision, calling that interpretation “exceedingly strained.”


Yep, super fake stuff here.


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posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

You know, you could just type "Trump BAd bAD Rrreeee", copy it, paste it in a document then type in a title and control-V your actual content.

It would save us all a lot of time... for instance, that way I don't have to scroll down very far to get a giggle at the replies.

Control-V... all the cool alt-left kids do tt now!




posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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It´s just capitalism. You know, God´s way of determining who is smart, and who is poor.


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posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: BlackJackal

You know, you could just type "Trump BAd bAD Rrreeee", copy it, paste it in a document then type in a title and control-V your actual content.

It would save us all a lot of time... for instance, that way I don't have to scroll down very far to get a giggle at the replies.

Control-V... all the cool alt-left kids do tt now!



What's wrong? You don't want to hear the bad stuff about Trump? You only want to hear good news? Because the bad stuff is fake news right?



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:36 AM
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a reply to: verschickter

And who goes to jail



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:37 AM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal
a reply to: Gothmog

Yep, them court cases sure are fake. If you read further into the article you can see that this judge already believes Trump is guilty of violating the emoluments clause.


In an earlier ruling, Messitte had found that the definition of word emoluments, in the context of the late 1700s, was broad enough to include sales of goods or services. By the judge’s logic, that definition meant that Trump could be taking emoluments merely by renting ballrooms to foreign-government customers.

Trump had objected, saying that the word should be defined more narrowly, to mean only payments made to Trump specifically to influence his behavior as president.

“By every reasonable metric, [Trump’s definition] appears to describe what is tantamount to a bribe,” the judge wrote in the Friday decision, calling that interpretation “exceedingly strained.”


Yep, super fake stuff here.

so the judge is not impartial and another judge will be taking the case?


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posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari


You know, you could just type "Trump BAd bAD Rrreeee", copy it, paste it in a document then type in a title and control-V your actual content.


You can practice that with your replies on any threads that aren't pro-Trump.

Or are you one of those "do as I say, not as I do" cats?



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal
Yeah, who? Can you tell me? Reads like a rhetoric question.



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:38 AM
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edit on 5/11/18 by JustMike because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:39 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: BlackJackal
a reply to: Gothmog

Yep, them court cases sure are fake. If you read further into the article you can see that this judge already believes Trump is guilty of violating the emoluments clause.


In an earlier ruling, Messitte had found that the definition of word emoluments, in the context of the late 1700s, was broad enough to include sales of goods or services. By the judge’s logic, that definition meant that Trump could be taking emoluments merely by renting ballrooms to foreign-government customers.

Trump had objected, saying that the word should be defined more narrowly, to mean only payments made to Trump specifically to influence his behavior as president.

“By every reasonable metric, [Trump’s definition] appears to describe what is tantamount to a bribe,” the judge wrote in the Friday decision, calling that interpretation “exceedingly strained.”


Yep, super fake stuff here.

so the judge is not impartial and another judge will be taking the case?


That's not how it works.



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

Oh really?
Judges are no longer supposed to be impartial?



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

Is this Peter Jo Messitte who was appointed by yours truly, Bill Clinton?...

No further questions...



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:41 AM
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posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

Trump is no saint and to infer that people think he is a saint is pretty silly

Trump was made president so that crooked female buffoon didn't get the job

Trump is the fault of the democrats putting hilary up as the candidate when she is political poison
edit on 5-11-2018 by Raggedyman because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

No he shouldn't because op isnt a child or internet arm chair political shill warrior. Blackjackal is just literally reporting what is written on subjects that have been published. Take it as it is.



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:45 AM
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No he shouldn't because op isnt a child or internet arm chair political shill warrior.

Do you have proof for that?



posted on Nov, 5 2018 @ 08:49 AM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal
a reply to: verschickter

And who goes to jail


Well it won't be the crooked greedy Clinton will it.
She has enough money to buy her stairway though she belongs in prison

Unbelievable how everyone blames trump,when it came to allowing hilary to run against him the democrats got what they deserved, shafted. Shafted for running an idiot in a two horse race
It's the democrats fault, don't blame Trump
Everyone knew what he was like, his public profile was huge and he didn't hide his personality
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