originally posted by: BASSPLYR
Sounds like he's talking out his ass.
Agree. Ho hum regurgitation with sexier buzz words.
"late 1990s, once again, space shuttle missions continue to report interesting sightings. "
That's SO last century UFOolishness.
Jim, you know some of these guys. The same ones--associated with the intelligence community--that have been around for years peddling MJ-12 stuff,
SERPO, and more. What reasons can you think of--hypothetically of course--as to why they might be doing this; creating modern ufo mythology?
talking some characters...shall we say familiar?...around these here parts? Is this another peek down the rabbit hole?
Their rep is really getting kind of bad at this point. I think the sensationalist school of thought in UFOlogy and those who are in it for forums, and
entertainment is their only supporters and George Knapp and Richard Dolan seem to like or at least tolerate them.
They’re going to have to come up with something mighty big to restore their rep
"He's talking absolute crap about the 1952 Washington DC flap. There are no photos or film of that event. Nor were there hundreds of
This is your crap. How many cell phones or Polaroids were around in 1952. There were hundreds of witnesses. I have talked to several.
It's not my crap. There really are no contemporary photos or films of the 1952 DC UFO flap. The events took place very late at night and in the
early hours of the morning.
The above video (and still frame) were created for a TV documentary over a decade ago. It is not genuine film footage of the events.
The above photo is a genuine photograph. But it is not related to the events of the 1952 Washington UFO flap. It shows lens flare from the street
lights below and was taken after 1965. There are no UFOs in the picture. Probably through ignorance it has been continuously used as evidence. Either
in that form or altered in some way to make it appear to be a different photo.
Yet Luis Elizondo clearly stated at the conference "...unlike Roswell...many people were able to take photographs....And what you see here are real
photographs linked to the story."
Nor were there several hundreds of people who witnessed these events. It was 1952 and people were tucked up in bed. Those that might have been out and
about were unlikely, for the reasons you have pointed out yourself, to have had cameras with them in the early hours of a July Sunday Morning.
Here are the witnesses that went on record. There are about 10. Of course there may have been a few more that I've missed. But there are certainly
not hundreds of people as Elizondo claimed.
First Weekend 19th/20th July 1952
Edward Nugent - Air Traffic Controller Washington (he detected radar signals only)
Harry Barnes - Nugent's Supervisor (again he only witnesses radar detection)
Howard Cocklin - In another radar tower to Nugent (again witnessed only radar signals)
William Brady - Andrews Air Force Base radar operator (also saw an orange fireball)
Capt S.C Pierman - Capital Airline Pilot on a runway noted 6 objects approaching his position
SSgt. Charles Davenport - Andrew Air Force Base observed a stationary orange light in the sky
E.W. Chamber civilian radio engineer - who reported five enormous disks circling in a loose formation
Second Weekend 26th/27th July 1952
Staff Radar operators at Washington and Andrew AFB - tracked rapid moving objects on their radar scopes
Lt. William Patterson - interceptor pilot reported 4 bright objects surrounding his aircraft.
Capt. John McHugo - Patterson's flight leader who reported he saw nothing whilst in the air at the same time.
I don't doubt you've interviewed several. But that hardly beefs the numbers up into the hundreds.
I asked you 3 months ago what part of the aerial and ET phenomenon, if any, you believe to be legitimate ET interaction. You have failed to respond or
did not see what asked.
I've looked at your posting history and none of those appear to have been
made 3 months ago. Of those you have made this year I don't see any asking such a question. Maybe you are mistaken?
What is your position on the ET?
I have yet to come across any undeniable evidence for the existence of an extraterrestrial presence.
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