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Republican Activist Tried to Pay Women to Make False Allegations Against Mueller?

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posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:02 PM
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See how your support has dwindled away?

Use to be you would have 30 flags by now.

But no one believes the BS you try and pass anymore.
edit on 30-10-2018 by notsure1 because: (no reason given)

edit on 30-10-2018 by notsure1 because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:08 PM
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Okay, so this is still developing.

Update from Natasha Bertrand on Twitter:


Natasha Bertrand Verified account @NatashaBertrand

NEW: Another woman, @jentaub, was contacted on October 22 by a man claiming to work for Surefire Intelligence, who offered to pay her to discuss her "past encounters" with Mueller. (She's never met Mueller.) Story has been updated:

4:15 PM - 30 Oct 2018



Fordham Law Prof Jed Shugerman on Twitter:


Jed Shugerman Vote 11/6@jedshug

Update on the plot against Mueller: I can vouch for @jentaub and @NatashaBertrand's story. On Oct. 22, Jen sent me a screenshot of this email offering to pay her for information (dirt) on Mueller, long before anyone had mentioned "Surefire Intelligence"... (i.e., @JacobAWohl)

4:36 PM - 30 Oct 2018


Here's the update Bertrand's piece cited in the OP:


Jennifer Taub, an associate professor at Vermont Law School, received an email from a man using a Surefire Intelligence email address around the same time, on October 22. "It's my understanding that you may have had some past encounters with Robert Mueller,” he told Taub, according to the email she forwarded me on Tuesday afternoon. “I would like to discuss those encounters with you.” (Taub told me she has never had any encounters with Mueller, though she does appear on CNN at times as an expert commentator.)

“I believe a basic telephone call, for which I would compensate you at whatever rate you see fit (inside reason), would be a good place to start,” the man continued. “My organization is conducting an examination of Robert Mueller's past. Tell me a decent method to contact you by telephone (or Signal, which would be ideal) and a beginning rate to talk with you about all encounters you've had with Special Counsel Mueller. We would likewise pay you for any references that you may have. Lastly, I would appreciate your discretion here, as this is a very sensitive matter." Taub told me she forwarded the email to the special counsel’s office, noting that she did not plan to respond.

Around the time that Taub and the other woman say they began receiving these communications from Surefire, Jack Burkman released a video on his Facebook page claiming, without evidence, that Mueller “has a whole lifetime history of harassing women.” On Tuesday, the day the special counsel’s office revealed that it had referred the woman’s claims to the FBI, Burkman tweeted a similar allegation.



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Yeah this will whole fiasco will ensure a solid amount of popcorn and beer consumption. One side saying they never paid anyone to make false allegations, and they have a credible witness. The other side saying they have emails from women saying they were offered payments to make allegations or for dirt on Mueller...

So far, one of the women that supposedly was offered payments and her 'intermediary' who offered her payments are not reachable (and the law firm that this lady supposedly worked at in 1974 says no one with her name ever worked there). Also, Surefire Intelligence is cited as a source that offered to pay another woman (Surefire Intelligence by the way has Jacob Wohl of Gatewaypundit in the source code of their web site, and apparently the phone number goes to his moms voicemail - HAHA).

What does all that together indicate? I think the various outcomes are that 1) Someone is setting up Jacob Wohl and Gateway pundit by sending emails and making fake accusations against them regarding offering payments; how hard would it be to set up a fake company with Jacob Wohls info and moms number on it? 2) Gatewaypundit and Jacob Wohl are in a lot of trouble if they actually did offer to pay people and the FBI gets real evidence against them

Choice 2 seems like the simpler, more logical answer - at this point I still will at least see what this accuser of Mueller has to say, but the Jacob Wohl is going to need to come up with solid exculpatory evidence that they weren't involved in paying any women (or offering to pay any women)...



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogany
It's incredible how much work you put into your thread and it gets little attention, but a similar one linking to a trash site and with unrelated pictures in it gets ten times more attention.

Your work is appreciated and read. Keep it up.

Kind of like the difference between a Trump rally and a Hillary rally eh?



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: notsure1




lol

you really are special..



regarding jacob wohl this is fun - LINK



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: notsure1




lol

you really are special..



regarding jacob wohl this is fun - LINK


aww thanks I try



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:17 PM
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And Jacob Wohl getting caught up in all sorts of BS. So if you noticed above, the man claimed to work for "Surefire Intelligence." The website purports that it's a private intel firm.

Wohl has been playing stupid:


Jacob Wohl Verified account @JacobAWohl

Spoke to a prominent DC insider today who told me there are several women prepared to make credible allegations against Dirty Cop Robert Mueller

3:46 PM - 19 Oct 2018


And today:


Jacob Wohl Verified account @JacobAWohl

Several media sources tell me that a scandalous story about Mueller is breaking tomorrow. Should be interesting. Stay tuned!

12:52 AM - 30 Oct 2018


Turns out that "Surefire Intelligence" is Jacob Wohl:


The allegations still took off as viral posts on far-right news sites known for spreading fake news and disinformation tied to Wohl. Gateway Pundit, where Wohl is employed as a writer, touted their "exclusive documents" about a "very credible witness."

In a statement, Surefire Intelligence tweeted that it "does not comment on current, past or future operations, nor the lack thereof."

Wohl declined to comment on his involvement with Surefire Intelligence. However, his email is listed in the domain records for Surefire Intelligence's website and calls to a number listed on the Surefire Intelligence website went to a voicemail message which provided another phone number, listed in public records as belonging to Wohl's mother.

Wohl stopped responding to NBC News after being told Surefire's official phone number redirects to his mother's voicemail.



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:20 PM
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If these documents are legitimate they sound very Blasey-Ford-ish. That is to say questionable.





posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: notsure1
See how your support has dwindled away?

Use to be you would have 30 flags by now.

But no one believes the BS you try and pass anymore.


NPC says what?



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Its sad seeing how far some people have fallen and im guilty of the same thing.

I miss reading educated discussions and when people could debate talking points without all the sh!t flinging.

I thought i would love the chance to show the left their hipocrisy. After reading this thread i just feel a little dirty and sad.



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian

NPC says what?


To answer your question, "NPC says what?" You NPC's insist on redundancy if nothing else.



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:58 PM
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originally posted by: samuelsson

I thought i would love the chance to show the left their hipocrisy. After reading this thread i just feel a little dirty and sad.


You would think it would be a teachable moment I agree. I'm sure for some it is but I haven't seen it yet. Did any of the more vociferous left here stick up for Kavanaugh's "innocence until proven guilty" and question Blasey-Ford's allegations? I just want to make sure and give sincere credit to any who did.



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Smells like a BS accusation to me. Same as the ones with Trump, Kav and a few others.



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 05:20 PM
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mobile.twitter.com...




A company called “Surefire Intelligence” has ties to this Mueller smear.

Jacob Wohl denied having ties to Surefire.

Surefire’s official phone number redirects to a voicemail box registered to Jacob's mom.


Lmfao



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian


If he broke the law prosecute, no ifs ands or buts about it.

I hate that the idea of fake accusations are becoming a thing, this is something the law needs to hit with a sledge hammer.



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 05:34 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Yeah the guy in question already denied it and also pointed out the "accuser" doesnt seem to exist.



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 05:34 PM
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It's interesting that The Guardian has just picked up on this too
despite it floating around for the last few weeks or so, elsewhere...

Ultimately, it's a fake-fake fake-story,
only broken out because Mueller's office have probably had to issue a statement
(FBI are looking in to it, let's make like a bunch of little Fonzies)



FBI asked to investigate suspected double hoax against Mueller

The FBI has been asked to investigate whether a hoaxer offered women money to make false allegations about Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.

... snip...

The sender of the email to journalists and bloggers claimed to be a woman in Florida who had worked with Mueller at a law firm in the 1970s. She said she had been offered $30,000 and other benefits to make false allegations against Mueller. But, she said, Mueller was in fact “always very polite to me, and was never inappropriate”.

The woman identified herself by a name that could not be matched with public records and efforts by journalists to contact her were unsuccessful.


I stopped there, thinking "ohh, that'll just be another amateurish gambit by a GOP operative" but the answer was just below (face palm):



She also said she was told the man behind the scheme was named Jack Burkman. A rightwing talk radio host with that name, who has pushed discredited conspiracy theories in the past, has publicly claimed to know of similar allegations about Mueller.

Burkman, who is also a registered lobbyist in Washington, has in the past raised money to help pay the legal fees of Rick Gates, Donald Trump’s former deputy campaign chairman, who pleaded guilty to conspiracy and lying to the FBI


That right there ^
'taints' the whole story in a skanky, turned, shade of orangaide
to be ignored/gawped at for sheer ineptitude by a GOP *ahem* gofer

Nevertheless, despite the glaring, transparently hamfisted approach to the thing
a certain faction on ATS considers it as "real news"....
go figure
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posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 05:47 PM
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I liked this investigation by Bellingcat's Aric Toler. Wonder where Surefire Intelligence hired their Tel Aviv Station Chief?

Article



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 06:10 PM
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a reply to: Cassi3l

It's amazing how some folks love to show their complete hypocrisy and lack of credibility:

I think Kavanaugh's nomination should be pulled His reputation is tarnished, his credibility is shot to bits

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The only consistency is the hypocrisy.

Amazing.



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 06:10 PM
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Jim Hoft took down the post at The Gateway Pundit. Twitter:


Jim Hoft Verified account @gatewaypundit

Earlier today we were given information on accusations against former FBI Director Robert Mueller.

We took the documents down and we are currently investigating these accusations.

There are also very serious allegations against Jacob Wohl.
We are also looking into this.

6:48 PM - 30 Oct 2018


Looks to be what's posted at the link now too.




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