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posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Immigration, by definition, is a domestic policy, not a foreign policy. So, you are wrong, and it is a violation of the PC Act.

I'll leave two links for your review, but basically to understand it easier: if it has to do with trade or war, international law or treaties, alliances, military acts and so on, that is foreign policy.

Everything to do with our own country, including our borders and our own laws governing those borders, it is domestic policy and is treated as domestic by our government. Here is a short recap of domestic issues:




A division of the Congressional Research Service, the Domestic Social Policy Division (“DSP”) is responsible to analyze issues of domestic policies and social programs. After looking into the policies and programs it is tasked with, reports are provided to Congress, allowing legislators to make appropriate decisions in making future decisions, enacting laws, and overseeing existing agencies.

Policies and social programs examined by the DSP include:

Public Education
Labor Policy and Worker Safety
Healthcare Services
Health Research
Healthcare Insurance
Policies and Studies on Aging
Social Security, both pensions and disability insurance
Immigration
Homeland Security
Domestic Intelligence
Criminal Justice
Welfare, Nutrition, and Housing programs



More links to government pages inside the links:

differencebetween.net
legaldictionary.net




posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:33 PM
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Conservative? Double, Hell YES!
edit on 29-10-2018 by CharlesT because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:40 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

Thank you for clearing that up for the rest of them.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:43 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out what a "Trump supporter" actually is... can anyone define this for me? I know all the buzz words like liberal, conservative, moderate, Republican, Democrat, independent, etc... but this "Trump supporter" is a new one. Are they a new independent party?

A2D



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:45 PM
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originally posted by: HunkaHunka
a reply to: Mahogany

Thank you for clearing that up for the rest of them.



NP. Took me about 3 minutes to look it up and provide a link, not an opinion. But it should be common sense anyway. Our borders are domestic policy.

People spend entirely too much time arguing here, without providing any proof for the entire length of an argument. Most debates would end on page 1 if people only substantiated their opinions with proof and links.




posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany




Immigration, by definition, is a domestic policy, not a foreign policy. So, you are wrong, and it is a violation of the PC Act.


Not when its being done illegally..........

Illegally crossing borders isnt an "immigration" policy, immigration is an immigration policy, applying for asylum is an immigration policy, storming the border and attempting entry illegally is a security issue......

You guys really have no idea apparently...........



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:51 PM
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originally posted by: HunkaHunka
a reply to: Mahogany

Thank you for clearing that up for the rest of them.



Except that doesnt apply to securing the border.........or supplying back up to do so......

You guys can make up your own ideas , but you cant make up your own facts........



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

Bingo. It would be a violation of Posse Comitatus to use them to enforce immigration policies. But they aren't going down streets asking for papers and enforcing immigration policy. They are providing border security. Which is their raison d'etre. People illicitly evading border control checkpoints should be stopped as a national security issue, regardless of their immigration status.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Mahogany




Immigration, by definition, is a domestic policy, not a foreign policy. So, you are wrong, and it is a violation of the PC Act.


Not when its being done illegally..........

Illegally crossing borders isnt an "immigration" policy, immigration is an immigration policy, applying for asylum is an immigration policy, storming the border and attempting entry illegally is a security issue......

You guys really have no idea apparently...........


What difference does it make how others from outside approach it, legally or illegally?

For us, our borders are domestic policy and we treat it as such. Google brings up many pages of immigration and domestic policy, because our government treats it as such. National Guard is tasked with protecting our borders from within, unless we are at war.

Are we at war with Mexico?

No.

Then this is still domestic policy and this is a serious violation by the administration.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:55 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask




but you cant make up your own facts........


Now you tell us.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 10:58 PM
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a reply to: HunkaHunka

Both parties are shells of WHAT they once were...

Dems have gone full blown globalist loving socialist... GOPe have moved left of center to fill the void the Dems vacated....

Potus is a centrist, and he is attacked as FAR RIGHT....

America is finally waking up... which is nice...



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 11:00 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Mahogany




Immigration, by definition, is a domestic policy, not a foreign policy. So, you are wrong, and it is a violation of the PC Act.


Not when its being done illegally..........

Illegally crossing borders isnt an "immigration" policy, immigration is an immigration policy, applying for asylum is an immigration policy, storming the border and attempting entry illegally is a security issue......

You guys really have no idea apparently...........


What difference does it make how others from outside approach it, legally or illegally?

For us, our borders are domestic policy and we treat it as such. Google brings up many pages of immigration and domestic policy, because our government treats it as such. National Guard is tasked with protecting our borders from within, unless we are at war.

Are we at war with Mexico?

No.

Then this is still domestic policy and this is a serious violation by the administration.


what difference does it make? Ummm...........because it DOES? And ill state again, they are there in a SUPPORT capacity......

Just because you think it doesnt make a difference is of no consequence, your bias is also of no consequence, by the law of the land and whats outlined........it does not violate PC......Period.......

Whether you want it to or not......




For us, our borders are domestic policy and we treat it as such.


And by our oath we are sworn to protect our country and its citizens from enemies foreign and DOMESTIC.....so i mean we could split hairs on that....

We dont have to be at war with a country to defend our borders from people crossing them.........this is really basic stuff, did you take a civics class?




Laws and resolutions passed by the US Congress can define additional allowable roles which affect the presumed limiting scope of the Act. Under HR5122, the US Department of Defence may coordinate with Homeland Security specifically to provide assistance in preventing unlawful entry of illegal aliens into the United States.


I hope this clears up some of this BS being spread about all this.........stop letting your bias control your thought, and actually seek out truth and facts
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posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 11:02 PM
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It wasn't a violation of PC when Bush sent troops to the border.

It wasn't a violation of PC when Obama sent troops to the border.

It wont be a violation this time either.

if you think otherwise, you are sadly mistaken.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 11:39 PM
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Yes.



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 02:53 AM
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a reply to: HunkaHunka

Why doesn't anyone check before,we have had troops being sent to Venenzuela,as the Russians and Chinese have soldiers on the ground,ww3 potentialy at our back door,this was set up long ago



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 03:07 AM
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posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 03:18 AM
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I support manners and respect. We seem to be a nation of selfies. Etiquette should be taught in grade schools. Respect, compassion, empathy, manners seem to be non existent. Since so many parents work and are divorced, children have grown up lacking morality and civility. It is a sad shame. The journalists have deviated from the code of ethics since the 1980s. I find myself avoiding watching the mean nasty news channels. I worry about my grandchildren's future. We are a planet of polluted environments. Whether it is physical or psychological environment. Peace and harmony need to be everyone's goal!
edit on 30-10-2018 by frugal because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:44 AM
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a reply to: HunkaHunka

Isn't there a sort of buffer zone along the boarder that isn't technically state territory for instances where more than the national guard are needed?



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:45 AM
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a reply to: JacKatMtn

Trump literally just said at a rally he's a nationalist. That isn't centralist, that's breaking into far right ideology territory.



posted on Oct, 30 2018 @ 04:54 AM
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a reply to: strongfp

The President of the United States should ALWAYS be a nationalist, placing this nation and her present day citizens above all others.
edit on 30-10-2018 by burdman30ott6 because: (no reason given)




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