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Fake Bombing Hoaxer a Florida Seminole Indian (Hoax Update)

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posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Doctor Smith

I can't take Alex Jones or Infowars seriously, or as a source.




posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

I'm impressed how they were also able to hoax this nutbar's decades long past history of being a nutbar. Such attention to detail.

Goddamn MKUltra guys know what they are doing.


Could be they find someone who is already a "nutbar" since they are perhaps easily manipulated. *shrug* Could be they sent all the packages and framed him completely. A lot of things could be possible.

And actually, yeah, now that you mention it, it wouldnt be too hard to fabricate documentation of criminal records or mental records or even social media and a "witness" or two. Not sure exactly what part of his history you were referring to though.

No real need to fake that but sure, they could pull a random homeless guy off the streets of Bolivia or Malaysia, give him an overdose of '___' or something to make him permanently crazy, cook up an entire documented past for him, including home videos made possible with DeepFakes, and blame him for anything you want, plant DNA, shuffle some people in front of the camera to say "hes known around here and hes been doing weird stuff for quite a while now", and he's not even mentally there to even be able to defend himself. Case closed.

I think the more important factor here is, due to so many lies by the media and those in power over the last several decades, faith in institutions is so low that people don't know what to believe anymore. They did this. It's not our fault that the smart thing to is not to continue to trust someone who has lied to you so many times. It's not our fault that we begin to look for ulterior motives and imagine that perhaps someone us up to something...because they have so often been up to something, before, when we DID trust them.

I wonder if that was the goal. They lied knowing they were losing the people and didn't care because they Wanted to hurt America by eroding its citizens' faith in media and gov institutions.

See? I'm doing it again. I just don't trust their motives when they tell me "these are our motives" so naturally I have to try to fill in the blanks with what little I know. I know they are lying theiving bastards so the best I can do on the fly is think to myself "now what would I do if I was a lying theiving bastard?"

I know my speculations may not be true. But I DEFINITELY know that They are not telling me the entire truth at best, an entire fabrication at worst.



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: 3n19m470
A lot of things could be possible.


Yeah, but the odds in this case are .0003333333 (repeating of course).



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 11:28 AM
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is he a Seminole Indian? it seems from what i read that he is being disavowed by them. on the other hand i have seen him being either Filipino/American or Filipino/Italian. (anything else being mentioned for ancestry??). in which case i would highly suspect that his picture almost certainly has been altered to show a lighter colored skin tone. but then again since he self identifies[i] as a Seminole Indian, doesn't that in fact make him a Seminole Indian no matter what anyone else, including reality says? after all identifying as something you are not is supposed to be taken as fact these days.


yet if they are having issues just pinning down his ancestry, how can they be so sure that they actually know anything else about him? could he not be a democrat supporter who has decided to self identify as a Republican/Trump supporter?



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: Doctor Smith

No, but I sure as h3ll won't believe a word infowars says.



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Disposable identities are always convincing.

especially when they register to vote in sept 2018

photochopped pics and edited videos help a lot too.

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False.

He registered in 2016 and voted as a Republican in both the Primary and the General Election.





posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Doctor Smith

No, but I sure as h3ll won't believe a word infowars says.


You aren't supposed to. Even Alex Jones tells viewers to go verify anything he says by looking it up, research, etc. Things like learning to think for yourself and use traditional methods of fact finding and discovery. But instead just fall into the left's trap of denying everything except what they tell you to believe in the MSM.



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Actually, according to the news this morning on CBS, THE NUTJOB HIMSELF!
He said he never actually wanted to hurt anyone, that's why they wouldn't work.

Plus varies police agencies, so...



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

I get my news from Reuters and I'm actually pretty confident when I say that.



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: soundguy
I see vehicles that resemble that van regularly here in Ohio. a reply to: Jefferton



Who was driving?

Elvis or Nelson Mandela ?

😎



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: generik

The DNA strands say 1/2048th

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posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Doctor Smith

Who said the bombs were fake?
And who said they did not contain explosives?


Pretty much anyone who knows anything about how bombs are made.



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: AboveBoard

The actual Florida database says 2018.

If you can find it, it's there in the link.

I wonder what it was for past years?

Like in other states.

πŸ’₯😸πŸ’₯



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: AboveBoard

No link for that fake Twitter post 😸



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

I did so there
. What I heard is they were explosives but could not detonate .



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 12:19 PM
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originally posted by: Doctor Smith
(1) Bombs are all fake with no explosives or detonators.

(2) Hoaxer or patsy is a Florida Seminole Indian (not white). Possibly a registered Democrat.

(3) Photo has been lightened up to make his skin color lighter.

(4) Stickers cover almost all the windows of the brand new van. You wouldn't be able to drive it legally. Pictures appear to be professionally done in Hollywood.

(5) All the enemies of world freedom and America are the so called targets.

Trump is obviously protecting himself by saying they would prosecute the so called white bomber to the fullest extent possible by law. Still the media is attacking him coming into the crucial election.

An obvious fabricated stunt. The link below is a gold mine of information.

Preliminary Evidence dug up by Allex Jones Info Wars


2) Sayoc's father is Filipino and his mother is Italian. Not Seminole. Born in NYC.
3) Wrong, plus he was regularly in photos as he was an entertainer at times in his life.
4) It's a really old van that he has had for many years with photos of it years ago showing stickers as well.

He wasn't a registered voter at all until 2016 when he registered Republican.

Stop spreading fake news.

Deny ignorance.
edit on 12Sun, 28 Oct 2018 12:20:21 -0500America/ChicagovAmerica/Chicago10 by Greven because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Disposable identities are always convincing.

especially when they register to vote in sept 2018

photochopped pics and edited videos help a lot too.

πŸ’₯😎πŸ’₯

Stop fabricating things, foxy.

Sayoc, Cesar A. was born 17 March 1962, is male, registered as Republican Party of Florida, (snipped) This is the most recent information, from the Florida voter list as of 30 September 2018.

That doesn't say he registered in September 2018.

It says that was the most recent information, and it says the same of almost everyone else on that page.

Deny ignorance.
edit on 13Sun, 28 Oct 2018 13:49:44 -0500America/ChicagovAmerica/Chicago10 by Greven because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: 10uoutlaw
a reply to: Sillyolme

I did so there
. What I heard is they were explosives but could not detonate .


Sources say some had baking soda and vinegar mixed into glass shards !! 😎



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: Greven

Other registrants say other years.

"Cesar Sayoc's" doesn't.

Add one more mistake to the psy-ops fail.

Ehhhh eh eh eh eh πŸ˜†



posted on Oct, 28 2018 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: Doctor Smith


(2) Hoaxer or patsy is a Florida Seminole Indian (not white). Possibly a registered Democrat.


According to his cousin, his father is Filipino and his mother is Italian. The Seminole tribe he claimed affiliation to says he's not a member.

Who is Cesar Sayoc? What we know about the suspected mail bomber arrested in Florida.


That work history, though, seems to have been inflated. Chippendales denied he was ever affiliated with the company. He also told co-workers that he was an American Indian from the Seminole tribe, that he lived on the reservation, and that he had done work for the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Fla. But the Seminole Tribe of Florida, Seminole Gaming and Hard Rock International said they could find no evidence to support that. His cousin said Sayoc’s father is Filipino and his mother is Italian.



(4) Stickers cover almost all the windows of the brand new van. You wouldn't be able to drive it legally. Pictures appear to be professionally done in Hollywood.


"Brand new" 2002 Dodge Ram van?

Bomb suspect was cash-strapped ex-stripper devoted to Trump


Sayoc lived in a white 2002 Dodge Ram van, which was plastered with stickers supporting Trump and criticizing media outlets that included CNN, which was also targeted by mail bombs.

The van was often parked outside an LA Fitness in Aventura, backed up in a parking space under the trees for shade. Patrons say they frequently saw him in the locker room.

β€œHe’d just be walking straight to the shower and be in the shower forever,” said Edgar Lopez, who often exercises at the gym. β€œI never saw him working out.”

Other times, the van was seen parked at the beach in nearby Hollywood before dawn, with Sayoc stripping down to skin-tight shorts for an outdoor shower.

β€œI’ve seen the guy maybe 80 times and I never said a word to him because I had a feeling he was a little off,” said Marc Weiss, the superintendent of a building near where Sayoc frequently parked. β€œI assumed because he was showering at the beach that he was homeless

edit on 2018-10-28 by theantediluvian because: (no reason given)



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