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posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 05:04 PM
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Come on......

edit on 29-10-2018 by Blue_Jay33 because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 05:05 PM
I think folks are being a little dramatic
There’s no such thing as absolute Free speech. Even Gab bans doxing, pornography, and direct threats.

I imagine it allows name calling, racial slurs, and things like that

Also, people aren’t realizing it but the right wing, if allowed to run things, would, in the end, would ban more things than any left-wing rule.

Gab allows Nazis, in a Nazi regime they would be banned

edit on 29-10-2018 by Willtell because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 05:08 PM
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Link does nothing.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 05:10 PM
a reply to: Willtell

Which is why I was asking for links to Gab supporting direct threats. I would be very surprised if Gab supported comments such as saying he needed to kill more Jews. I would imagine calling for killing people would result in banning.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 05:14 PM
a reply to: Nyiah

And I am sure it will come about however, when the system or backbone is dependent on those who control it then it's almost an impossible outcome. The payment system depends on being standardized which means they all must work together. If a conglomerate or group of them doesn't want to accept payment from one, then they cannot be a part of the system and they will fail. And bitcoin is just as dependent on the payment system as everything else. You purchase bitcoin by paying dollars or whatever currency you use. Those payments are made using debit
cards, credit cards, and the whole payment system

edit on 10/29/2018 by DJMSN because: addition

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 05:17 PM
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

One proud boy with a black wife is not indicative of the group.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 05:21 PM
a reply to: DJMSN

Fair enough, I would say though the world is fairly ugly at the moment, just having an opinion is enough to be attacked by those that can't handle opposing views.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 05:22 PM
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Sorry I thought you wanted the link to their close down message, misunderstanding.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 05:28 PM
a reply to: Willtell

Those are illegal and should be. Twitter does not ban threats against the President to include assination talk. All kinds of hatred ca be found on every forum which allows expression. The worst junk i have ever seen can be found in the comments sections of every site, those which still allow comments. Like the President or not, threats and calls for his assination should not be allowed.

People have gone to jail for providing material support to terrorists and should. Facebook provides a platform for ISIS which uses it for recruiting vulnerable people, propaganda, and for fund raising. Why are they not shut down ? Why are they not prosecuted ? I don't hate anyone nor do condone hateful speech but the answer alludes me at the moment over exactly the route we should take.

Personally, I think that an ignore button should be available instead of the like button. Keep getting ignored enough and their voice is irrelevant and usually they reform themselves. instead we make hero's or martyrs of people who commit atrocities by putting their names and words on 24 repeat.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 06:02 PM
a reply to: Aazadan

Those are individuals that utilize Twitter and Facebook. Facebook has hundreds of pages that provide a voice to individuals and communities that provide a voice to terrorist organizations like Hamas and ISIS. Both those groups use Facebook to recruit, raise money, and spread propaganda that undoubtedly is used to harm and maim others. Facebook is not being stripped of their ability to operate because of those, should they ?

I don't belong to GAB, Twitter, or Facebook and do not condone hatred from anyone nor anywhere. I believe in holding individuals responsible for their own behavior. Holding someone else accountable for the words of someone else is a dangerous road. The New York Times printed a fictional story, the day the bombs were discovered, about a Russian attempt to assinate our President, that Russian failed but the story continues with our Secret Service helping him.

I love fiction but this story was tied to political editorial opinions of one of the more respected papers in our country. It was a very thinly veiled fictionalized opinion. It was an insult to the men and women who make up our Secret Service. Why are they not denied business opportunities ? Those were their own words and not someone else's, but it's okay I guess if it's hate that some approve of
edit on 10/29/2018 by DJMSN because: correction

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 06:20 PM
a reply to: loam

I have a lot of friends on Facebook who are joining a new online platform that seems to be compatible. It's still in it's infancy but the alternative is called Apparently, it's not controlled like FB is and freedom of speech is protected there. It's worth a look. I certainly am looking into it.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 06:28 PM
Gab has spent the past 48 hours proudly working with the DOJ and FBI to bring justice to an alleged terrorist. Because of the data we provided, they now have plenty of evidence for their case. In the midst of this Gab has been no-platformed by essential internet infrastructure providers at every level. We are the most censored, smeared, and no-platformed startup in history, which means we are a threat to the media and to the Silicon Valley Oligarchy.

Gab isn’t going anywhere.

It doesn’t matter what you write. It doesn’t matter what the sophist talking heads say on TV. It doesn’t matter what verified nobodies say on Twitter. We have plenty of options, resources, and support. We will exercise every possible avenue to keep Gab online and defend free speech and individual liberty for all people.

You have all just made Gab a nationally recognized brand as the home of free speech online at a time when Silicon Valley is stifling political speech they disagree with to interfere in a US election.

The internet is not reality. TV is not reality. 80% of normal everyday people agree with Gab and support free expression and liberty. The online outrage mob and mainstream media spin machine are the minority opinion. People are waking up, so please keep pointing the finger at a social network instead of pointing the finger at the alleged shooter who holds sole responsibility for his actions.

No-platform us all you want. Ban us all you want. Smear us all you want.

You can’t stop an idea.

As we transition to a new hosting provider Gab will be inaccessible for a period of time. We are working around the clock to get back online. Thank you and remember to speak freely.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 06:36 PM

originally posted by: AtlasHawk
Here is the least from gab itself. And you know what? Gab is right on point, what these Mainstream News Media outlets is clearly suppressing the opposition or any voices that are agaisnt their official narratives.

No-platform us all you want. Ban us all you want. Smear us all you want. You can’t stop an idea.

Pretty sure folks stopped the last bunch of tards that got together and decided they were going to kill all the jews.

If "80%" of the people are with Gab like they claim then they should have no problem scrounging up the finances and resources to continue to provide an echo chamber for murdering hate mongers.

Until then, I see no reason Paypal, Apple or any other company should be forced to support their skin-head agenda.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 06:51 PM
a reply to: DJMSN

Facebook does take action against those groups, as does Twitter, as do many other social media platforms. They're often slow to take action, and don't go far enough, but they do at least pay lip service to the problem and generate statistics that show they're doing something. We could go back and forth all day on what they do, don't do, and should be doing... I've certainly got a long list of opinions on that subject. At the end of the day though, Gab and Voat do not do that, and that is why they're having problems.

When your business model is to advertise yourself as a platform that won't censor offensive ideas, you're going to become a place where terrorists, pedophiles, and nazi's like to hang out.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 07:07 PM
a reply to: Aazadan

Terrorists, Nazi's, Antifa, BLM, paedophiles hang out on FB and Twitter, too.

I think you need to take a step back and understand what is happening.
Where does this end? What services should be denied based on views expressed, not just by you, but your customers, patrons, associates, friends...? Where's the line?
It might all seem nice when it's your side that controls the levers of companies that dictate a particular service/industry, but what goes around comes around.
Be very careful what you wish for.
It's not far to dehumanizing your perceived enemies completely and we know where that leads.

edit on 29/10/2018 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 07:18 PM

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: seeker1963

The problem here is capitalism that is out of control, these corporations yeild so much power and influence they can do this without backlash, the only solution is to get government involved and let's face it nobody wants that so...

Wrong. This has nothing to do with capitalism, but has EVERYTHING to do with the authoritarianism that comes with left-wing ideas/views.

i have friends from all over the world, most of the time we just pass time making jokes, watching funny videos and such. One of those friends is from Mexico, but he was born to a rich family, yet like many rich people in the west he is actually very left wing to the point that he believes in socialism. When he told some of us his views, and the fact that he even went to school with the son of Mexican drug cartel boss Escobar, we just thought at first he was kidding, but he wasn't. He actually has a business that hires a lot of people, never said what business he is in, and he blames Capitalism because HE doesn't pay his employees enough, and he puts this as an example of why Capitalism must be replaced.

Of course, he doesn't realize that the problem is not Capitalism, but it is him and his unwillingness to pay fair salaries to his employees.

Every time you say/write about "the wonders of socialism" remember Karl Marx's own words.

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism. Karl Marx

Read more at:

What this means is that in order for socialism, any branch, to exist there can be no opposition to it. What this implies is that all opposition to "socialism" must be silenced, and stopped any way possible.

This is not only true for Marx's socialism, but to Liberal/democrat views as well, which have finally shown their true colors aka "socialism." You can hide what "socialism" is with a plethora of euphemisms, but in the end it is nothing more than authoritarianism. We can see it as left-wing mouth pieces in the news constantly keep calling for "shutting down so and so sites to fight extremism," when to these people "extremism" is any idea/view that differs from their left-wing views.

Just to add to this.

Yesterday I actually watched an interview in Spanish of a Venezuelan who was a political prisoner, and he explained all the torture he had to endure under the "socialist/communist" regime. The torture was so bad that he told his torturers that if they didn't kill him, he would kill himself, and he opened his own wrists with a smuggled piece of mortar. I didn't watch it all, but watched and heard enough to remember similar statements made by Cubans who had been political prisoners to the "marxist-Leninist" regime in the island, including one of my uncles.

Anyway, the only crime committed by this young Venezuelan was to be a leader in student protests against the cruelties of the Venezuelan regime.

These are examples of the extremes that "very left-wing ideas" lead us to, and it is an example of the extreme measures used to "stop any opposition to socialism and any of it's branches."

edit on 29-10-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 07:25 PM
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

The ominous thing about today's authoritarians on the left is that they seem to have gained the blind support of a significant proportion of the population.
1933 saw some earily similar efforts to 'de-platform' Jews in Germany... like the 'alt-right' of today (which means anyone not left) the Jews were seen as the enemy and painted as the people responsible for destroying society.

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 07:32 PM
OP, you bemoan the demise of a site that has ... faced crticism for providing an outlet for far-right figureheads and conspiracy theorists banned from other social networks.

Really ?!

Five things to know about Gab

Critics have described the site as a "haven" for the far-right, since many controversial figures have moved there after being banned from Twitter and Facebook. Among them are conspiracy theorist Alex Jones; the founder of the neo-Nazi site the Daily Stormer, Andrew Anglin; and the anti-Islam group Britain First. Gab says it welcomes all speech and members should mute accounts they do not want to see

Not everything is allowed on Gab. Its terms and conditions do not allow direct threats of violence. And founder Andrew Torba has previously blogged disavowing political violence. Posts that break US laws - such as copyright content and images of child abuse - are also not allowed. A small number of Gab users have complained that the platform does not allow cartoon depictions of children in sexual situations. The company has told those people to go "somewhere else"

Gab does not carry advertising. Instead, members can pay for a Pro membership that unlocks several features, including video live-streaming

Apple has never allowed Gab on its App Store, citing pornographic content and hate speech. Gab was available on the Google Play store until August 2017, when Google removed it citing hate speech. The company has produced versions of its app with content filters switched on by default but Apple and Google have not allowed this on their app stores. Gab has described this as Silicon Valley censorship

Gab has faced censorship accusations of its own. In 2017, its web domain registrar ordered it to delete a post mocking Heather Heyer, a woman killed in protest-related violence in Charlottesville. Faced with the threat of losing its web domain, Gab deleted the post and sought a new domain registrar. Its cloud service provider, Microsoft, also ordered it to delete two anti-Semitic posts. However, these were subsequently removed by the writer himself. Gab has said it wants to develop its own decentralised infrastructure so that it can avoid censorship

That's all pretty unsavoury

D'you "dip in" to Gab out of curiosity
or more for your daily dose of "news"

Does your familly know ?

Should ATS be as worried for you as much as you are about GAB ?

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 07:34 PM
a reply to: Aallanon

So, you want to encourage radicalization of unstable persons?

posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 07:37 PM
a reply to: Aallanon

80% of normal everyday people agree with Gab

No. They don't. I furthermore don't appreciate your promoting such trash on this site.

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