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originally posted by: Penywaarder
a reply to: JAGStorm
This post is an example of the unwelcome change that has happened to ATS in recent times. ATS was once a site where you could find interesting posts related to the weird, the unexplained,conspiracy or unknown events. Now, the site seems mostly devoted to crackpot right wing tropes or outright Trump worship. I’ve been a reader of the site for 10+ years but have only recently decided to join the conversation. I miss the days where you could visit for posts that would baffle, interest or inform. Now, it just seems to contain so much hate and scared white people that its a sad window on the state of the American zeitgeist.
originally posted by: blueman12
originally posted by: Jusvistn
a reply to: blueman12
If they are skilled, they should pursue legal admission.
A hostile advance on our border is NOT the way to come here.
How is a group of unarmed civilians hostile? That just sounds silly.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: JAGStorm
Or looking for the American Dream. You don't hear much about the Mexican Dream. Maybe we have oversold ourselves.
It seems quite a few took the offer though.
Authorities said more than 1,700 had already applied for refugee status.
originally posted by: Alien Abduct
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: JAGStorm
Or looking for the American Dream. You don't hear much about the Mexican Dream. Maybe we have oversold ourselves.
It seems quite a few took the offer though.
Authorities said more than 1,700 had already applied for refugee status.
Whats it called? Right, you said it. Its the American dream. They aren't Americans. Around 800 troops have been ordered to the border. I think they will be better off not wasting their time and just take Mexico's offer.
They aren't Americans
originally posted by: BoneSay
originally posted by: Alien Abduct
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: JAGStorm
Or looking for the American Dream. You don't hear much about the Mexican Dream. Maybe we have oversold ourselves.
It seems quite a few took the offer though.
Authorities said more than 1,700 had already applied for refugee status.
Whats it called? Right, you said it. Its the American dream. They aren't Americans. Around 800 troops have been ordered to the border. I think they will be better off not wasting their time and just take Mexico's offer.
Well that assumption about the name of a country was dumb
Think about this
South Americans are moving to Central America, then attempt to break into North America, so they go ahead and break into it with the intention to reach "America"
LMFAO
Which one "America" are they trying to reach?
They aren't Americans
Oh they are Americans all the way, just not your flavor of "American"
On the other hand i don't support them at all, i have said so clearly, in other threads and one of them where i had been clear about what was really going on got completely removed with no explanation, so be it, but you don't have a clue anyway about what you are talking about in the end
originally posted by: Alien Abduct
originally posted by: BoneSay
originally posted by: Alien Abduct
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: JAGStorm
Or looking for the American Dream. You don't hear much about the Mexican Dream. Maybe we have oversold ourselves.
It seems quite a few took the offer though.
Authorities said more than 1,700 had already applied for refugee status.
Whats it called? Right, you said it. Its the American dream. They aren't Americans. Around 800 troops have been ordered to the border. I think they will be better off not wasting their time and just take Mexico's offer.
Well that assumption about the name of a country was dumb
Think about this
South Americans are moving to Central America, then attempt to break into North America, so they go ahead and break into it with the intention to reach "America"
LMFAO
Which one "America" are they trying to reach?
They aren't Americans
Oh they are Americans all the way, just not your flavor of "American"
On the other hand i don't support them at all, i have said so clearly, in other threads and one of them where i had been clear about what was really going on got completely removed with no explanation, so be it, but you don't have a clue anyway about what you are talking about in the end
Right because when Phage referenced the "American dream" he may have been talking about the South American dream. I can see where your confusion lies, people get those two mixed up all the time.
And when I said they werent American I was obviously talking about the continent of South America because I put the word "South" in front of the word America right? Oh I didn't?
I am not confused about which "America" Phage was referencing when he mentioned the "American dream". And I'm confident Phage isn't muddled about which America I am referring to.
I'm sorry you are so bewildered, perhaps you should brush up on your reading comprehension a bit. Have a good day!
originally posted by: Lumenari
originally posted by: Carcharadon
originally posted by: odzeandennz
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAGStorm
They're invaders.
Invaders take whatever they want.
Said no native American ever... Huh...
Sure they did. And they did it too.
Go ask an Apache about the Comanche.
Go ask any Plains Tribe member about the Comanche.
Go ask around about the Sioux and what they did.
This idiot idea that Indians were somehow above the fray and didnt do what humans have done the world over has to be one of the most moronic, idiotic, stupid and braindead historical revisionisms being perpetrated these days.
Absolute idiocy.
The natives did everything they whine about the Europeans doing, to each other and for much longer.
And no, natives weren't one with the land either.
One cannot be in tune with Mother Nature and drive 5000 Buffalo off a cliff while only being able to use about 10% of the meat and hides because everything was pulped.
The Noble Savage is a myth and a Leftist fantasy that never existed.
Pure, unadulterated idiocy spread to other idiots by idiots.
I would guess the big difference is that the majority of us Native Americans don't whine about it or try to use it to score political points for two American ideologies that the majority of us don't care about at all. We just normally watch from the sidelines as you get more bigoted and more crazy each decade.
But thanks you two for completely showing off your actual ignorance of the People, both in your own unique way.
ETA.. your comment on buffalo pissed me off. We did that because it killed less tribesmen than going one-one-one with a one ton animal. Buffalo at the time outnumbered people, so it wasn't seen as waste, but something the Mother gave us to survive. There wasn't a shortage of Buffalo and Bison before the white men slaughtered them for money, you see...
But hey! It has gotten a lot better now!
Americans throw away billions of pounds of food each year, worth billions of dollars and enough to feed millions of people.
In fact, if we were able to recover all of our wasted food, we could provide a 2,000-calorie diet to 84% of the population, said Dr. Roni Neff, a Johns Hopkins University researcher who led a first-ever study examining the nutrients we're tossing in the trash.
originally posted by: Jennyfrenzy
Migrants aren’t invaders, they come here to work. I live in Napa Valley and this billion dollar region would tank without the migrant farm workers.
How many of you eat fruit, vegetables, dairy (*cough* Devin Nunes *cough*) or drink wine? Do you think the bounty magically just appears at the store?
originally posted by: Jennyfrenzy
a reply to: Wardaddy454
They are migrant workers and many of them live in the dorms at the wineries. I’m not telling you where I work but yes, I have first hand knowledge and interact with migrant workers every day. They come here to work, some people stay and work all year, other people travel across the state and return at harvest. Some are here legally and most are not.
originally posted by: Carcharadon
originally posted by: odzeandennz
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAGStorm
They're invaders.
Invaders take whatever they want.
Said no native American ever... Huh...
Sure they did. And they did it too.
Go ask an Apache about the Comanche.
Go ask any Plains Tribe member about the Comanche.
Go ask around about the Sioux and what they did.
This idiot idea that Indians were somehow above the fray and didnt do what humans have done the world over has to be one of the most moronic, idiotic, stupid and braindead historical revisionisms being perpetrated these days.
Absolute idiocy.
The natives did everything they whine about the Europeans doing, to each other and for much longer.
And no, natives weren't one with the land either.
One cannot be in tune with Mother Nature and drive 5000 Buffalo off a cliff while only being able to use about 10% of the meat and hides because everything was pulped.
The Noble Savage is a myth and a Leftist fantasy that never existed.
Pure, unadulterated idiocy spread to other idiots by idiots.
originally posted by: Carcharadon
originally posted by: Jennyfrenzy
Migrants aren’t invaders, they come here to work. I live in Napa Valley and this billion dollar region would tank without the migrant farm workers.
How many of you eat fruit, vegetables, dairy (*cough* Devin Nunes *cough*) or drink wine? Do you think the bounty magically just appears at the store?
So you need the slave labor?
Democrats never change.
Once the party of slavery, ALWAYS the party of slavery.
originally posted by: ConspiracyofRavens
originally posted by: Carcharadon
originally posted by: odzeandennz
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAGStorm
They're invaders.
Invaders take whatever they want.
Said no native American ever... Huh...
Sure they did. And they did it too.
Go ask an Apache about the Comanche.
Go ask any Plains Tribe member about the Comanche.
Go ask around about the Sioux and what they did.
This idiot idea that Indians were somehow above the fray and didnt do what humans have done the world over has to be one of the most moronic, idiotic, stupid and braindead historical revisionisms being perpetrated these days.
Absolute idiocy.
The natives did everything they whine about the Europeans doing, to each other and for much longer.
And no, natives weren't one with the land either.
One cannot be in tune with Mother Nature and drive 5000 Buffalo off a cliff while only being able to use about 10% of the meat and hides because everything was pulped.
The Noble Savage is a myth and a Leftist fantasy that never existed.
Pure, unadulterated idiocy spread to other idiots by idiots.
And you know our connection to Nature how?
I am Iroqouie Nation of the Narragansett Tribe.
And yes we murdered each other for fun when the Euros arrived.
Two years before that we were pretty advanced.
Then the plague killed off 98% of our population amd what you arrived to was a budgeted version of a Post Apocalyptic society that in the two year dark age went
MAD MAX meets Conan.
And yes back then and some few of us now DO HAVE A CONNECTION WITH NATURE.
You just fail to see it in most modern America. But it is a thing and it exists independent of your opinions based on the obvious fact you have never personally managed to establish a connection.
But astute observation about how mean we were and still are to other tribes.
originally posted by: ConspiracyofRavens
originally posted by: Carcharadon
originally posted by: odzeandennz
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAGStorm
They're invaders.
Invaders take whatever they want.
Said no native American ever... Huh...
Sure they did. And they did it too.
Go ask an Apache about the Comanche.
Go ask any Plains Tribe member about the Comanche.
Go ask around about the Sioux and what they did.
This idiot idea that Indians were somehow above the fray and didnt do what humans have done the world over has to be one of the most moronic, idiotic, stupid and braindead historical revisionisms being perpetrated these days.
Absolute idiocy.
The natives did everything they whine about the Europeans doing, to each other and for much longer.
And no, natives weren't one with the land either.
One cannot be in tune with Mother Nature and drive 5000 Buffalo off a cliff while only being able to use about 10% of the meat and hides because everything was pulped.
The Noble Savage is a myth and a Leftist fantasy that never existed.
Pure, unadulterated idiocy spread to other idiots by idiots.
And you know our connection to Nature how?
I am Iroqouie Nation of the Narragansett Tribe.
And yes we murdered each other for fun when the Euros arrived.
Two years before that we were pretty advanced.
Then the plague killed off 98% of our population amd what you arrived to was a budgeted version of a Post Apocalyptic society that in the two year dark age went
MAD MAX meets Conan.
And yes back then and some few of us now DO HAVE A CONNECTION WITH NATURE.
You just fail to see it in most modern America. But it is a thing and it exists independent of your opinions based on the obvious fact you have never personally managed to establish a connection.
But astute observation about how mean we were and still are to other tribes.