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If Trump responsible for Sayoc, Beatles responsible for Manson

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posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 07:59 AM
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Yes, Dems and Republicans both invoke and joke about “cage match fighting” or “pit fighting” to forge an image of their party’s resolve.

However, when has Trump called for terrorist acts? Please quote any right leaning individual here at ATS with any morals that shares Sayoc’s views of terrorist acts?

I’ll straight up ask, are the Beatles responsible for the Manson murders. Same logic as Trump is responsible for Sayoc.



HOW THE BEATLES' MUSIC INFLUENCED CHARLES MANSON TO COMMIT HIS 1969 MURDERS

www.newsweek.com...

Speaking to Rolling Stone in 1970, Manson said it was the Beatles who inspired the Tate-LaBianca murders in August 1969. "This music is bringing on the revolution, the unorganized overthrow of the establishment," he said. "The Beatles know [what's happening] in the sense that the subconscious knows."


Like how people ignore the call of communism and socialism require confiscation and trampling on individual rights.



Violent or disruptive protests on college campuses in 2017
www.foxnews.com...

Violence has broken out at college campuses all across the country to protest mostly conservative speakers.


Who has a constant and steady history of trying to impose thought control on who?




posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:04 AM
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I wonder what sort of mental twists are going to appear on this thread. Should be a fun read. Great analogy OP.



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:11 AM
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I saw Obama completely blaming Trump for these bombs .

He was pissed lol so now I wonder if someone sends a bomb to Trump wont that be Obamas fault for his dangerous rhetoric?
edit on 27-10-2018 by notsure1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:14 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Manson was inspired by the Beatles. Yes. Sayoc was inspired by Trump. Yes.
Does that make them responsible? No. But we all know Lennon got killed in the end. Trump?



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:18 AM
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Peèps. That is out of order.

a reply to: Peeple




posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:19 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Let me go further. We have Trump because of democrats.



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:20 AM
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Well I wil tell ya one thing for 100% sure.....I am not responsible for the cat in the farmers mailbox back in ohio...in 1985. Noooo way. Huh uh.



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:21 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Trump isn't responsible for the actions of Sayoc but his words are the catalyst for what Sayoc did , with great power comes great responsibility , a reality Trump has failed to grasp.



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:23 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: neutronflux

Manson was inspired by the Beatles. Yes. Sayoc was inspired by Trump. Yes.
Does that make them responsible? No. But we all know Lennon got killed in the end. Trump?


So, are you saying Lennon deserved to be murdered? Yet, when has Trump claimed any US citizen should be murdered in the street? You might want to start judging yourself before Trump.



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: lakenheath24

Why is it out of order? You embrace violence you get violence. Reap what you sow and all of that.



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

"I could shoot a guy and they'd still love me" or similar the Trumpster said. Lennon was much less violent and divisive.



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Well comparing someone who is the leader of a nation and supposed to bring people together in need, to, the other(s) who are artists just sharing their views of the times they live, or lived in, or history they interpreted. Is like apples to oranges really.

Art isn't something that is set in stone, politics main goal is to set things in stone. Either way, you will get crazies who idolize anything and interpret who ever those people are too literally, or in the wrong way, clearly. Did Trump tell this guy or anyone else to send bombs to those people? Pretty sure he didn't, did the Beatles tell Manson to manipulate people to commit murder? Nope.



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:29 AM
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No no and no. 99% of members here just talk smack. Aint nobody going to physically do anything. We dont need you going all Iron Sheik on us.



a reply to: Peeple




posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
Well I wil tell ya one thing for 100% sure.....I am not responsible for the cat in the farmers mailbox back in ohio...in 1985. Noooo way. Huh uh.


I saw you. I demand a hearing.



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: neutronflux

Trump isn't responsible for the actions of Sayoc but his words are the catalyst for what Sayoc did , with great power comes great responsibility , a reality Trump has failed to grasp.


How is Trump responsible? Please quote where Trump called for violence against the Dems? I think he called for due process?



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: strongfp

Please quote where Trump calls for revolution or terrorist acts?



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:32 AM
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Lol....no social media or cell phones back then. So...no pics or it didnt happen



a reply to: Trueman



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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Is it Obamas and the MSM fault every time Trump gets a threat?

get a grip idiots.



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux




How is Trump responsible?

Did you read what I posted ?



Trump isn't responsible for the actions of Sayoc but his words are the catalyst for what Sayoc did


Sayoc targeted the people Trump targeted in his speeches , not because Trump said to do it but because Trump singled them out as enemies.



posted on Oct, 27 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
No no and no. 99% of members here just talk smack. Aint nobody going to physically do anything. We dont need you going all Iron Sheik on us.



a reply to: Peeple



Again, both sides do it. Its the attempt at rendering the partys’ resolve in words.




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