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The definition of illusion - I never thought about this

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posted on Feb, 24 2005 @ 05:40 PM
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If the Illuminati conspiracy is true, this is something quite interesting.

From dictionary.com, the defintion of the word illusion..

il·lu·sion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-lzhn)
n.

An erroneous perception of reality.
An erroneous concept or belief.
The condition of being deceived by a false perception or belief.
Something, such as a fantastic plan or desire, that causes an erroneous belief or perception.
Illusionism in art.
A fine transparent cloth, used for dresses or trimmings.

Wow, that's some coincidence. It brings me to a whole realm I never thought of when digging into hidden signs and symbols of the Illuminati - the origin of words in the English language.




posted on Feb, 24 2005 @ 06:49 PM
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Yep, I always wondered what it was about the English language that made it special. Everyone knows German is good for shouting, French is good for swearing, and so on
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I've found that there is great truth in anagrams for the English language, much more so than my Native Afrikaans.

Almost makes you want to re-consider the origins of the word 'Freemasonry'?
I know they love Ancient Egyptian symbolism, I wonder if there is a word in Ancient Egyptian...



posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 01:14 AM
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www.etymonline.com...

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I'm not seeing a real connection between the words, if that's what you are getting at. Have I misunderstood what you are trying to say?



posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 05:33 AM
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Nonetheless, it is an interesting and fun past-time.

Although I can't find any words that we use today that stem from the Illuminati, there are a couple that have derived from Freemasonry that are in common usage.
Try looking for short phrases as well.


Google: "Etymology" to get you started.



posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 06:37 AM
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I'm trying to say:

If the Illuminati had so much power today, we'd basically be living in a fantasy world, where they control everything.

The word Illusion (ILLUminati, ILLUsion), is exactly that definition. Unfortunately I've been unable to find out when the word Illusion was actually created.

If it was after the existance of the Illumnati, that's an awfully big coincidence.



posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 06:47 AM
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hopefully this will clear things up for you:

illuminati

Interestingly, the Illuminati were originally a Spanish sect of the 16th century and a German secret society of the 18th century (the latter was founded by a man named Georg Weishaupt as a secret society within the Freemasons, and some conspiracy theorists claim that Weishaupt later turned up in America as George Washington!). The term comes from Latin illuminare `to throw into light.' also latin for enlightened ones.


illusion:

Illusion entered English around 1350 with the meaning `mockery.' It wasn't until around 1380 that it meant `deceptive appearance.' It came from Old French illusion `a mocking,' which was borrowed from Latin illusionem `a mocking, jesting.' The Latin word was formed from il- `at' + ludere `to play.'

borrowed from the good people at: takeourword.com

as you can see, illusion late 1300's illuminati 1600's


guess they dont control our dictionaries.

[edit on 25/2/05 by painkiller]



posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by akilles
Almost makes you want to re-consider the origins of the word 'Freemasonry'?


I came up with this a couple of years ago when I was in that "phase."

Freemason= Free*son*ma= "Free son from 'ma"

Not based in any reality, but kind of funny when you consider the male enlistment...........

*crawls back under rock*



posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by LogoWatch


The word Illusion (ILLUminati, ILLUsion), is exactly that definition. Unfortunately I've been unable to find out when the word Illusion was actually created.




You theory would be all very well and good, but these are words based in the Latin language.
In the case of Illusion and Illuminati it is the ending of the word that has the significance. The "Il" is the Latin root prefix. THe "lu" that you have highlighted is a part of the secondary word that gives the main word it's meaning.
I'm afraid that your theory is therefore "Illogical.

"Il" generally means "pertaining to", "into" or "in". It can also mean "not" as it comes with the other prefixes "in", "im" and "ir", which we can see used in words such as "inadequate", "improper" and "irreverrant"- but I believe that the "not" root can be discounted here and the "pertaining to" root is more pertinent here as in "illustrate" or "illustrious".

In the case of "Illusion we have a word that also contains the suffix - "ion". This means "existing". We are then left with "lus" - "a game, pastime or play". Put them together and you've got "pertaining to a game of existing", which is basically what an illusion is - it's something that you may see but it doesn't actually exist - a play on the state of reality.


With "Illuminati", we still have the prefix of "il". This is now joined by the suffix of "ati" ("atus" for the plural). "Ati" means "being". But it is also a word in it's own right, so maybe we can discount it's use as a suffix in this instance and look at the word's meaning. "ati" means "to learn" (it's actually present in the word "Latin" itself, which could mean "everbody learn the words" although it is more probable that the word originated from the area of Latium in Italy).
"Lumin" means "light". When we put these together we have "pertaining to the light of learning". I would take this to mean that the "Illuminati" was a group intent on exposing that light.



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posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by akilles
I've found that there is great truth in anagrams for the English language, much more so than my Native Afrikaans.
I know they love Ancient Egyptian symbolism, I wonder if there is a word in Ancient Egyptian...

Since when do boers play so coy?

You've already stated that its from some similar sounding egyptian word.


the axeman
Have I misunderstood what you are trying to say?

SymbolSpotter is suggesting that because the illuminati are engineers of a great deception, that thats why the word illusion has a similar root.....


If it was after the existance of the Illumnati, that's an awfully big coincidence.

Why don't you research the seperate sections of the word, that would be more explanatory that deciding if there is 'too much' coincidence. Besides, the word almost certainly existed before the 18th century.


leveller
With "Illuminati", we still have the prefix of "il". This is now joined by the suffix of "ati" ("atus" for the plural). "Ati" means "being".

I suppose next he will find it strange that the illuminati deception is to create a 'perfect' world and that they were also called 'perfectabalists'.

Folk etymology has great limits anyway, and it seems that it would be go hand in hand with 'logo watching', ie, looking for symbols that aren't really there in corporate logos.

And note that dan brown's protagonist is a 'symbologist'. The idea is rather strongly planted in conspiracy theory.



posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan

leveller
With "Illuminati", we still have the prefix of "il". This is now joined by the suffix of "ati" ("atus" for the plural). "Ati" means "being".

I suppose next he will find it strange that the illuminati deception is to create a 'perfect' world and that they were also called 'perfectabalists'.

Folk etymology has great limits anyway....


I agree that etymology has limits. The word has to be taken in historical context for one thing. It also has to be translated from the language that it was originally created in and that's not always clear.
But it isn't a total waste of space. There are ways that etymology does clarify language and words.
I don't claim that the Illuminati were trying to create a perfect world - in fact the only claim I make is the logical assumption that I have above - that concerns the word, not the physical group. What I'm interested in here is the root of the word. As it's origin is Latin, it's probably one of the easiest words to apply etymology to.



posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 05:18 PM
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Whats strange is that the Illuminati sells 'illumination', at a price.

And here we have morality and philosophy (to 'enlighten' the mind) that comes at the price of joining Freemasonry.

So Freemasonry is founded on the principles of the Illuminati, well that wasn't hard.



posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 06:09 PM
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You have voted Leveller for the Way Above Top Secret Award. You have one vote left for this month.


Dude you have been on fire lately. Just want you to know your efforts do not go unappreciated. Keep up the good work man, I learn something from your posts much more often than not.



posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by akilles
So Freemasonry is founded on the principles of the Illuminati, well that wasn't hard.

My, how illuminating. Oh no! You're part of it too! 'Phrei May sonnrey' means something in afrikaans doesn't it! Well doesn't it!!! Can't you shed some light on the subject? Oh crap, that'd be illuminating too! Jezus, what are we going to do!!!!



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