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FBI Arrests Man in Connection to Pipe Bombs

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posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 05:54 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: theantediluvian

I said yesterday they would have someone in custody very quickly. Cameras everywhere these days.


Coulter's Law.





posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: tonycodes

Or... maybe he was doing this as a test.

When I drove a truck, I was in a program which used us as eyes and ears to look for suspicious terrorist activity. One thing they stressed was looking for 'dry runs' where nothing actually happened, but the bad guys got information to make sure their actual attack would succeed. things like, a guy might board a school bus but not do anything else, just to see what kind of resistance could be expected it he really wanted to commandeer a bus full of kids.

Good news is, if this was a dry run, it failed. Miserably.

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: verschickter

If it's the same dash board clock on Amazon then it isn't a timer.
TOOGOO(R) Ultra-thin LCD Digital Display Vehicle Car Dashboard Clock with Calendar



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:04 PM
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originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: verschickter

If it's the same dash board clock on Amazon then it isn't a timer.
TOOGOO(R) Ultra-thin LCD Digital Display Vehicle Car Dashboard Clock with Calendar


Wasn't the guy caught in an Auto Zone?



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: Phage

That's a completely different phenomenon. Any lithium-ion battery will burn if shorted, due to the internal heat inside the battery from rapid discharge. It's the same phenomenon that caused all the 'exploding' cell phones a while back. What the 'bombs' needed was heat at the explosive, meaning at the heating element.

You'll notice the wires never got very hot.

There is also no way to make the clock short out the battery without doing a little board surgery and adding components. They're designed not to. That type of surgery would be readily apparent.

That is also a CR2032, one of the more powerful button cells. They're used a lot on motherboards, to maintain settings during power off. That clock used something much smaller.

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:07 PM
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posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Phage

The battery must still be able to heat the wire to the flash point. A coin cell of that size won't do it.

E=IR, P=IE.

TheRedneck


No, no... you got it wrong...

F=BI, FBI = FAKE BOMB.



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:12 PM
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You'll notice the wires never got very hot.

How, exactly, will I do that?


That type of surgery would be readily apparent.
Probably. Of course, it's conceivable that the FBI might conceal some details before releasing images of pipe bombs to the public.

edit on 10/26/2018 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: Identified

It was definitely one of the automotive clock modules... I'm pretty familiar with them. I used to use them to make alarms because they were cheap. Some do have alarms, but they're just a two-transistor low-power oscillator driving a piezo element, or sometimes a direct oscillation output from the chip driving it.

It took several amplification stages just to turn on a relay, and the surgery on the board was pretty intense just to get the alarm signal out of it. They're throwaway units never intended to be used for anything but a clock. If Sayoc managed to do that, he's as good a solderer as I am, and I've been soldering for 40 years!

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: Phage

You realize nothing happened in that video right? He shorted it out and nothing got hot.

Then he blew it up by applying power to it. He hooks it up to a shop power supply (which is what he pans the camera up to before turning it on) to blow it up.

So TheRedneck was right. Those batteries don't supply enough current to get a large gauge wire hot enough to ignite anything solid. Perhaps a gas though.



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: More1ThanAny1


Those batteries don't supply enough current to get a large gauge wire hot enough to ignite anything solid.
I agree with that. But we don't really know what was inside the pipe.



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: Phage


How exactly, will I do that?

Watch your own video. Where do you see insulation smoke?


Of course, it's conceivable that the FBI might conceal some details before releasing images of pipe bombs to the public.

The only way they could conceal that kind of modification would be to replace the clock with a new one. Is that what you're proposing?

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:16 PM
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But we don't really know what was inside the pipe.

You haven't seen the posted x-ray pics?

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:17 PM
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Didn't see your thread OP, sorry
copy/paste to save mods time
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Not at all surprised to learn
that ultimately it's a deranged person
who happens to support Trump




Who is Cesar Sayoc ?

A photograph on Sayoc’s Facebook page – his profile has since been taken down – showed him wearing a red “Make America Great Again” hat. He is standing in front of what appears to be a vehicle with a picture of Donald Trump on it. A video posted to the page shows Sayoc at a Trump rally in Florida in October 2016.
...

Sayoc posted several ph
otos of himself wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat, and a video where he’s wearing the hat as Trump speaks at the October 2016 rally.
The images from the rally also include photos of Trump speaking and “Blacks for Trump” signs.

Memes he posted on his page include an image of Hillary Clinton - one of the bomb targets - labeled “hypocrite.” Other memes promote fringe conspiracy theories about Clinton, calling her a “serial killer” and accusing her and husband Bill Clinton of having people murdered.

There are images criticizing Islam as a “barbaric evil cult” and referring to Muslims as “paedophiles and rapists.”

There are other posts depicting refugees as terrorists, opposing gun control, and attacking former President Barack Obama,
who was targeted with a bomb.

Another photo posted on the account shows a sign reading “Thank you, Lord Jesus, for President Trump.”

Sayoc is a registered Republican.
Records show that he last voted on 8 November 2016 – the date of the presidential election.

Online presence shows anger at Trump critics


Any how, despite it all being a prank
Cesar Sayoc has been charged with five federal crimes

interstate transportation of an explosive
illegal mailing of an explosive
threats against former présidents
threatening interstate commerce
assaulting current and former federal officers

He faces up to 58 years in the slammer.

More surprising though is this !



Cesar Sayoc worked as an exotic dancer and bouncer at several strip clubs, a cousin told NBC News.

The cousin called Sayoc a “loose cannon” and a “lost soul” and said he was estranged from his family.
“He’s been in the strip clubs since he was 22, that was his life,” the relative said.
“He was a male dancer and he wanted to be a wrestler.
He was taking steroids. He was all buffed up....He was built like a rock.”



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Yes we do. We have multiple x-rays. There was a solid wire coiled up all the way through, and not much else substantial. The wire was far too long and too thick for a 3v cell battery to get it hot, too much resistance over time.



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

Yes. And they appeared to show a coil of lighter gauge wire inside the pipe. What sort of wire and what gauge cannot be determined from the images.



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Yes it can, at least approximately. That wire was larger than 20 gauge. In order to create a heat strip, it would need to approach 36 gauge or smaller.

Just because you can't judge wire size, it does not follow that experts cannot.

TheRedneck



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: Phage




The only way they could conceal that kind of modification would be to replace the clock with a new one. Is that what you're proposing?
I'm proposing that the images released to the public may not be telling the whole story. A good idea, I would think.
edit on 10/26/2018 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

this guy is a racist a homophobic he loves junkfood guns trump and the nazis. no wonder that so many ats-members trying to defend him. pure hysteria! love it!



posted on Oct, 26 2018 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: Phage

What story would an x-ray not tell on a mechanical system as simple as the one described by authorities? An x-ray is an x-ray.

We know for certain the only power source was a 3V cell battery. Remember, those batteries alone have a 10 ohm internal resistance by themselves, as opposed to a AAA battery which has like 0.3 ohm internal resistance. They are by themselves almost incapable of catastrophic shorting.



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