The Pyramids Of Egypt: Relics Of An Advanced Prehistoric Civilization?

originally posted by: ManFromEurope

originally posted by: Hanslune
Oh my space faring giants....who left writing inside the pyramids within sealed spaced - done with ocher paint- nothing like HIGH technology.

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What are we looking at? What is the specific anomaly with these hieroglyphs?

That is writing by the ancient Egyptians placed on one of the granite stone placed in the relieving chambers which were sealed and not seen until a Victorian used explosives to force his way in.

www.cheops-pyramide.ch...



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a reply to: Hanslune

Was that writing not found to be a modern forgery by a Victorian when a sample was taken ?

originally posted by: scojak
a reply to: LitriumGem

I studied Falun Dafa awhile back, and I'm a fan of it's teachings, but I wonder, where did he obtained this information?

The Internet. It never lies.

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: Hanslune

Was that writing not found to be a modern forgery by a Victorian when a sample was taken ?

No not at all. Stalwarts of phringe science like Mr. Sitchin (echo'd later by others) claimed that a hieroglyph of Khufu was faked (there are actually 7 of them) but the claim is not supported by any evidence. Most recently Creighton tried to pick up that deflated ball and run with it too and didn't get anywhere with it. There is far more than one piece of writing in the relieving chambers.

There was a similar writing found on a stone on the outside by Goyon in 1944



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Khufu’s name on backing stones found in 1947. Grinsell and Goyon noted this crew's name on Khufu pyramid located on an exposed core blocks (although Goyon provides an illustration): 4th course, west face, 71st stone on leaving the north angle.

Good question

a reply to: Hanslune

Thanks

a reply to: ManFromEurope

Modern engineers have their skills and understanding of energy based on physics.

And yet physics seems to be having a hard time explaining the quantum realm. What if the civilization that built these monuments that stands the test of time better than anything built since, understood that realm better than us?


What is your field of research as an engineer?

originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: ManFromEurope

Modern engineers have their skills and understanding of energy based on physics.

And yet physics seems to be having a hard time explaining the quantum realm. What if the civilization that built these monuments that stands the test of time better than anything built since, understood that realm better than us?


What is your field of research as an engineer?

I hope you'll stop and realize that virtually every bit of electronics you come in contact with involves leveraging quantum mechanics into a useful tool for circuit design.
If you do, perhaps you'll realize that if a culture knows quantum physics, a culture uses quantum physics.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

I hope you'll stop and realize that virtually every bit of electronics you come in contact with involves leveraging quantum mechanics into a useful tool for circuit design.

Yes. And that is the very tip of the iceberg. Just as someone who works in the field of trying to figure out how to build a quantum computer how little they still understand about it. But we are getting there.

If you do, perhaps you'll realize that if a culture knows quantum physics, a culture uses quantum physics.

You seem to believe that there is only one way to understand something. There are ways of learning that we do not know of yet or forgot over time.


Highvein

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Sphinx blah blah blah blah pyramid blah blah blah blah ancient blah

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originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: Harte

I hope you'll stop and realize that virtually every bit of electronics you come in contact with involves leveraging quantum mechanics into a useful tool for circuit design.

Yes. And that is the very tip of the iceberg. Just as someone who works in the field of trying to figure out how to build a quantum computer how little they still understand about it. But we are getting there.

If you do, perhaps you'll realize that if a culture knows quantum physics, a culture uses quantum physics.

You seem to believe that there is only one way to understand something. There are ways of learning that we do not know of yet or forgot over time.


Highvein

Ah. I see. The "different way of looking" at the same thing.
So, does this different way not involve electrons, the easiest BY FAR elementary particle to isolate from an atom (they do it on their own all the time) ??
Do you believe that quantum theory can arise without any experimentation at all? Just right out of some genius' mind?

Or, do you think they skipped electrons altogether - just for the challenge of it - and went straight to protons an neutrons somehow?

Because if they manipulated electrons to discover quantum theory, then they used electricity, which leaves a giant footprint.
Pun intended.


Harte

originally posted by: Harte


Ah. I see. The "different way of looking" at the same thing.
So, does this different way not involve electrons, the easiest BY FAR elementary particle to isolate from an atom (they do it on their own all the time) ??
Do you believe that quantum theory can arise without any experimentation at all? Just right out of some genius' mind?

Or, do you think they skipped electrons altogether - just for the challenge of it - and went straight to protons an neutrons somehow?

Because if they manipulated electrons to discover quantum theory, then they used electricity, which leaves a giant footprint.

Pun intended.


Harte

Howdy Harte

Yes and while they were busy understanding quantum theory their skeletons show that they died or suffered from tooth abscesses, diabetes, tuberculosis, neuropathic arthropathy, europathic arthropathy, osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, diffuse idiopathic skeletal hyperostosis, adhesive capsulitis , dental caries, periodontal disease and parasites - so while they were doing all that deep thinking they were over looking the basics of sanitation and that pesky thing called germ theory.

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Math question for out master of math - what sort of math is used to understand quantum theory? Would it be easy to do those types of equation in a language that had no zero?

There is plenty of info on net that explains the mathematical and building precision of pyramids. Some people will always view them as pile of rocks because they have never made any real effort to look at the evidence.

a reply to: Hanslune

The quantum world is not accessable via integer mathematics.
How can you understand when your understanding falls apart as it approaches that quantity you do not recognize nor understand.
Then there is the small detail that quantum mechanics is an observationaly based science.

a reply to: punkinworks10

Ah and here is what I was looking for:

en.wikipedia.org...

and

linear algebra: complex numbers, eigenvectors, eigenvalues
functional analysis: Hilbert spaces, linear operators, spectral theory
differential equations: partial differential equations, separation of variables, ordinary differential equations, Sturm Liouville theory, eigen functions
harmonic analysis: Fourier transforms


Ya know it does kinda look the same:





...okay, okay I'm just kidding a bit of a jape

originally posted by: ManFromEurope
I like how millions of years under water should have had no effect on the stones of the pyramids themselves.

Or that there were sixteen feet large giants. With advanced space programs.
All of this without leaving a single trace..
No, I do not think that a single copper amulet looking like a plane IS a model of a plane!


Nope. Sorry, but this is even for a conspirancy site not enough to prove anything!

I think the Pyramids go back a lot longer than any of really know. I do agree that if they were under water for an extended period of time, it would show on the stones.

No matter what species you are, you leave something behind. There are a few out of place objects on earth that are certainly strange, but nothing you would call technologically avanced.

There are many theories to the origins of the Pyramids. Hopefully one day we will know the truth.

a reply to: LSU2018

Exactly, the mind boggles.
Definately without doubt pyramid was way more than just leggo for longevity in honor of dead oppressors.
Definately a engineering marvel built for purposes way out of our current understanding, if ya ever come across that time machine gives a hoy.

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: Harte


Ah. I see. The "different way of looking" at the same thing.
So, does this different way not involve electrons, the easiest BY FAR elementary particle to isolate from an atom (they do it on their own all the time) ??
Do you believe that quantum theory can arise without any experimentation at all? Just right out of some genius' mind?

Or, do you think they skipped electrons altogether - just for the challenge of it - and went straight to protons an neutrons somehow?

Because if they manipulated electrons to discover quantum theory, then they used electricity, which leaves a giant footprint.

Pun intended.


Harte

Howdy Harte

Yes and while they were busy understanding quantum theory their skeletons show that they died or suffered from tooth abscesses, diabetes, tuberculosis, neuropathic arthropathy, europathic arthropathy, osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, diffuse idiopathic skeletal hyperostosis, adhesive capsulitis , dental caries, periodontal disease and parasites - so while they were doing all that deep thinking they were over looking the basics of sanitation and that pesky thing called germ theory.

stars.library.ucf.edu...

Math question for out master of math - what sort of math is used to understand quantum theory? Would it be easy to do those types of equation in a language that had no zero?

Quantum Mechanics uses either matrices or wave equations - your choice. The two methods were shown to be equivalent a century ago.
And no, it's impossible to use either method without using zero.

Harte

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: stonerwilliam
a reply to: Hanslune

Was that writing not found to be a modern forgery by a Victorian when a sample was taken ?

No not at all. Stalwarts of phringe science like Mr. Sitchin (echo'd later by others) claimed that a hieroglyph of Khufu was faked (there are actually 7 of them) but the claim is not supported by any evidence. Most recently Creighton tried to pick up that deflated ball and run with it too and didn't get anywhere with it. There is far more than one piece of writing in the relieving chambers.

Until recently, Scott Creighton was still trying to run with the question on these boards.

originally posted by: Hooke

Until recently, Scott Creighton was still trying to run with the question on these boards.

I'm sure he is! You see him on occasion at sites trying to find someone who will listen to his spewing forth the same old ideas. He tries really hard but the evidence is not his friend. Lets hope he doesn't spoil this thread by wanting to 'go breathlessly and desperately' through his 'thoughts' again.

originally posted by: Harte

Quantum Mechanics uses either matrices or wave equations - your choice. The two methods were shown to be equivalent a century ago.
And no, it's impossible to use either method without using zero.

Harte

Kinda figured - the high tech believers often spend a great deal of time gainsaying the existing evidence then try to support their beliefs with opinions. Without understanding just how much technology would be needed to do x and y and that having that isn't a starting point. The entire technological evolution has to be gone through. You don't get to quantum mechanics from stone tool making without some intermediate steps.......of course the New Age believers get around that by making it all 'deep thinking', that eliminates the need for technology but then you're left with the evidence that there remains don't seem to support the ideas of the New Age.....its all lovely fun eh?