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Sweden the socialist heaven just a big lie

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posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 06:51 AM
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The next time you hear how Sweden is a socialist paradise show them this short video.. They tried being socialist back in the 70s with government owned businesses and other institutions.. They had a big change of heart when they realized that it was unsustainable even with 102% tax rates in some cases. So they privatized the companies and got big government control out of the peoples lives. Then guess what; they as a country flourished..they even got the government out of pensions so politicians could not promises raises for their version of social security..

It is a short video of only 5:29 minutes but worth a watch for those interested in such things. I am not a big government kind of guy so the video warmed my heart. Yes I know some brain washed hard core socialist will come by spouting the virtues of socialism and make comments without watching the video.. My answer is watch the video and learn.youtu.be...




posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 07:07 AM
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Socialism is another name for communism.....which has murdered more people than have ever lived on the planet......chairboy Mao killed 120 million

Did you know he refused to brush his teeth and green ooze was all up in his gums.....that is fact....leader to follow? Naw, a leader of the ideals of the father of lies.....in whom no truth could be found

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posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 07:12 AM
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a reply to: GBP/JPY

Stand up

Refuse to be a victim......my brethren....what would John Wayne do.......he'd have their azz over this
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posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 07:18 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

i watched this the other day and was like
to those who said Sweden was a socialist success

here is the full video




posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 07:23 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

Ruddy hell 60 percent on the poor and low income, that's insane. Although I've never thought of Sweden as socialistic well I gotta be honest I've not really thought much about Sweden to busy hating on my own government (UK) but still they don't take more from the rich but squeeze the poor is a scary scary quote. Although I'll defend America on this a little and that's that we have to remember the way the country is made up, the number of people and the political propaganda that the country pushes out (Insurance based Healthcare is good the rest is bad etc.) I just don't think anyone in the States who isn't earning say less than forty thousand dollars a year would believe any of this, they'd wave a hand and say "Yeah but you just got to look at..." and come up with a poor excuse.

I live in the UK and even though I think the country is being ruined with the proper messing up of Brexit (I voted for but don't like the way our PM is handling it) I fear a labour government because they want to have the government own MORE including the railways even though people forget how bad it was when the government owned it, they want banks to be owned or at least have the option to go to a government own bank, they want to have the state own all the energy needs, water companies etc.



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 07:24 AM
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You guys are from sweden, I guess? Ah, the Youtube University once again.

And still can not differentiate between socialist-democratic, national-socialistic and of course communism. Must be all the same, righto?

ARE there schools were you come from? Really? Because I am beginning to doubt that.



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 07:26 AM
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a reply to: GBP/JPY



Did you know he refused to brush his teeth and green ooze was all up in his gums.....that is fact


And George Washington had several sets of dentures due to his poor oral hygiene.
They were made up of a mixture of

ivory, metal alloys and — most disturbingly — the teeth of other humans, quite possibly slaves.

www.livescience.com...

Now, where is the relevance to the topic under discussion?



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 07:41 AM
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Other than Volvo, Abba and the Swedish Bikini team, I don't think most peeps even think about that country.



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

This is rich ... people are just now realizing that all those nations that were being labeled socialist far left leaning nations actually arent?
All because they have healthcare and took in refugees and have some socialist aspects to their society. Go figure...



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 08:48 AM
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Awesome share. I have that one friend who always says to look how Democratic socialism has work so well in Sweden. Can wait to sit him down and make him watch this.



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 08:49 AM
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I doubt most people realize that somewhere around 38 or 39% of Americans make less that $28,000 a year. First time I had an HR friend tell me this his figure was a family of 4 on 27,000. Since they make so little, when and if they ever reach retirement age, they can expect around $1300 a month from social security.. There are not many countries you can retire to and have a decent life style on that kind of money.. IMO..

Sweden by privatizing their social security actually had a good idea and as it is privately managed it keeps the money grubbing politicians from raiding the fund and writing IOUs.

Some of my best friends around here are Swedes and even though they do not want to live in Sweden for several reasons they seem to be happy with their retirement benefits. Many of my British friends are barely scraping by if they were blue collar workers; they seem to be forced to be the cheap Charlies.. I am afraid many in America will be in the same boat no matter where they retire to.



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
Other than Volvo, Abba and the Swedish Bikini team, I don't think most peeps even think about that country.


Volvo is now owned by the Chinese



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

have your swedish friend ( i assume you know many swedes and have been there, because a YouTube video surely isnt all it takes to convince you) tell you how it is instead.

Sweden is a first world country, so is America. check the

poverty rate in america vs sweden, health care, life expectancy,

crime rates, unemployment, pollution, diseases, median

income , income gap between the poor and the rich, national

debt, how many are living from paychecks to paychecks, gun

laws, mass shootings, political corruption, spying on citizens,

meddling in other countries government etc....

compare those instead of a video on YouTube...
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posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 11:49 AM
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Obviously most of us are not well informed as to what kind of economy and government Sweden has. All we hear about is how immigration is causing a huge uptick in crime and creating no-go zones where emergency services can't go without police escort. This may be true but is far from being the rule throughout Sweden; something akin to judging all of America based on Chicago crime rates.

There has always been much to learn from European countries and they from us. What the US lacks in sensible policy we make up for in individual freedom. The real trick is how to have a workable government that doesn't function by screwing over some segment of the population.
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posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: GBP/JPY

"Socialism is another name for communism"

not true, they are different economic ideologies...

"which has murdered more people than have ever lived on the planet"

hyperbole, but, yes DICTATORS were responsible for countless deaths... Look to Capitalism, look to "Democracies" all have been responsible for countless deaths


if all you do is get your understanding of various economic systems by rightist Americanised propaganda you remain ignorant



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 01:06 PM
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The problem with discussions like this is simple. Americans have a irrational fear of the word "socialism" - it often translates as Communism. Europeans don't and the word means something different.

Sweden is a "parliamentary constitutional monarchy". For context, the UK is pretty much the same thing, while the US is a "republic", or "federal republic". While Sweden has some social(ist) aspects, such as universal healthcare, free education, and a social safety net (welfare), it ain't a socialist-communist nation. The UK has the same type of social(ist) arrangement, just not so rigid.

If the US adopted universal healthcare it would not be socialist, just a better place.
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posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 03:34 AM
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originally posted by: 727Sky
The next time you hear how Sweden is a socialist paradise show them this short video.. They tried being socialist back in the 70s with government owned businesses and other institutions.. They had a big change of heart when they realized that it was unsustainable even with 102% tax rates in some cases. So they privatized the companies and got big government control out of the peoples lives. Then guess what; they as a country flourished..they even got the government out of pensions so politicians could not promises raises for their version of social security..

It is a short video of only 5:29 minutes but worth a watch for those interested in such things. I am not a big government kind of guy so the video warmed my heart. Yes I know some brain washed hard core socialist will come by spouting the virtues of socialism and make comments without watching the video.. My answer is watch the video and learn.youtu.be...


I think the biggest problem people have, when looking at sweden and scandinavia, is the need a box to put it in, like socalism..
The same thing that happen in sweden, is happening in Denmark. After 9/11, our goverment began to privatize everything! We still pay the high taxes though, and we also pay extra taxes on everything, the original taxes was for.
We are rich in scandinavia, we came out of WW2 without loosing our infrastructure, like most of the rest of europe did, so we earn VERY GOOD money. So they need the high taxes to keeping us from becoming to rich, so even though we earn a LOT more than most of you guys, we just pay more taxes and our stuff is a LOT more expensive than yours is. So in the end, we are not rich, only if we go on vacation


But it is all a scam, like in the rest of the world. Our "socalism" did work once.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 05:46 AM
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originally posted by: GBP/JPY
a reply to: GBP/JPY

Stand up

Refuse to be a victim......my brethren....what would John Wayne do.......he'd have their azz over this


You know, he's dead.




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