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Media trying to make Nationalism a racist idea

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posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Here is a libertarian take on nationalism.


Nationalism and its cousin nativism are dangerous attitudes that have come and gone almost cyclically throughout American history. They foster an arrogant aura about Americans who embrace them -- we are more deserving than you because our ancestors got here before you or yours did -- and they cause fear and hatred of foreign-born people.
They also lull one into the lazy mental habit of judging the moral worth of people not on the basis of their personal choices and fidelity to first principles but on the basis of their membership in groups marked by immutable characteristics of birth, such as people's place of birth.



This habit rejects a founding American principle that we are all created equal and endowed by our "Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."
The quoted words above are not just Thomas Jefferson's most famous musings, which made their way into the Declaration of Independence; rather, they embody natural law. And natural law teaches that human rights come from our humanity -- not from the government -- and they adhere in everyone, not just Americans.



Judge Napolitano
www.foxnews.com...

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posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

A star and flag was not enough for this opening post.
These are for you



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Agreed and what you're soon going to figure out is that about 50% of the US electorate is anti-American. And oddly enough though many are white, they are racist in their attitudes to "white America" (what's left of it).

We live in strange times and I'd suggest the strangeness is graduating to what Linda Moulton Howe calls, "high strangeness".



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 04:01 PM
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Too bad Trump and his supporters act like Trump and his supporters.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Well maybe it's because where does nationalism stop? That word has been tied in with some pretty nasty history. And sure you can love your nation, its history and culture, but what is America's culture? Its extremely hard to define, and when you do define it, then it becomes clear that America has lost its roots. The land of opportunity, but only for a select few.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

The rhetoric combined with complete refusal to condemn attacks against Republicans places it the level of inciting violence.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

It stops when you take it beyond your borders.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: strongfp

It stops when you take it beyond your borders.


The romance of the United States is that it almost had no boarders. It was a free society.

That dream is literally being demolished right before our living eyes.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: strongfp

It stops when you take it beyond your borders.


The romance of the United States is that it almost had no boarders. It was a free society.

That dream is literally being demolished right before our living eyes.

No, sorry, it always had borders. That was never the romance of the US.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: strongfp

It stops when you take it beyond your borders.


The romance of the United States is that it almost had no boarders. It was a free society.

That dream is literally being demolished right before our living eyes.

No, sorry, it always had borders. That was never the romance of the US.


The american dream is what?



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: luthier


Cannot get Any More Nationalist than This ......

My country, ’tis of Thee,
Sweet Land of Liberty
Of thee I sing;
Land where my fathers died,
Land of the pilgrims’ pride,
From every mountain side
Let Freedom ring.

My native country, thee,
Land of the noble free,
Thy name I love;
I love thy rocks and rills,
Thy woods and templed hills,
My heart with rapture thrills
Like that above.

Let music swell the breeze,
And ring from all the trees
Sweet Freedom’s song;
Let mortal tongues awake;
Let all that breathe partake;
Let rocks their silence break,
The sound prolong.

Our fathers’ God to Thee,
Author of Liberty,
To thee we sing,
Long may our land be bright
With Freedom’s holy light,
Protect us by thy might
Great God, our King.

Our glorious Land to-day,
‘Neath Education’s sway,
Soars upward still.
Its hills of learning fair,
Whose bounties all may share,
behold them everywhere
On vale and hill!

Thy safeguard, Liberty,
The school shall ever be,
Our Nation’s pride!
No tyrant hand shall smite,
While with encircling might
All here are taught the Right
With Truth allied.

Beneath Heaven’s gracious will
The stars of progress still
Our course do sway;
In unity sublime
To broader heights we climb,
Triumphant over Time,
God speeds our way!

Grand birthright of our sires,
Our altars and our fires
Keep we still pure!
Our starry flag unfurled,
The hope of all the world,
In peace and light impearled,
God hold secure!

AMERICA
My country, ’tis of Thee Lyrics
by Samuel F. Smith – 1832
My country, ’tis of Thee,
Sweet Land of Liberty
Of thee I sing;
Land where my fathers died,
Land of the pilgrims’ pride,
From every mountain side
Let Freedom ring.

My native country, thee,
Land of the noble free,
Thy name I love;
I love thy rocks and rills,
Thy woods and templed hills,
My heart with rapture thrills
Like that above.

Let music swell the breeze,
And ring from all the trees
Sweet Freedom’s song;
Let mortal tongues awake;
Let all that breathe partake;
Let rocks their silence break,
The sound prolong.

Our fathers’ God to Thee,
Author of Liberty,
To thee we sing,
Long may our land be bright
With Freedom’s holy light,
Protect us by thy might
Great God, our King.

Our glorious Land to-day,
‘Neath Education’s sway,
Soars upward still.
Its hills of learning fair,
Whose bounties all may share,
behold them everywhere
On vale and hill!

Thy safeguard, Liberty,
The school shall ever be,
Our Nation’s pride!
No tyrant hand shall smite,
While with encircling might
All here are taught the Right
With Truth allied.

Beneath Heaven’s gracious will
The stars of progress still
Our course do sway;
In unity sublime
To broader heights we climb,
Triumphant over Time,
God speeds our way!

Grand birthright of our sires,
Our altars and our fires
Keep we still pure!
Our starry flag unfurled,
The hope of all the world,
In peace and light impearled,
God hold secure!




America , Love it or Shut the Fook Up .............





posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: strongfp

It stops when you take it beyond your borders.


The romance of the United States is that it almost had no boarders. It was a free society.

That dream is literally being demolished right before our living eyes.

No, sorry, it always had borders. That was never the romance of the US.


The american dream is what?

It is ...

A·mer·i·can dream
/əˈmerəkən drēm/Submit
noun
the ideal that every US citizen should have an equal opportunity to achieve success and prosperity through hard work, determination, and initiative.
"he could achieve the American dream only by hard work"


I see no mention of borders?



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

In 'American Dream' .. what is the first word?



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

So if someone entered the land of the USA and wanted citizenship should be turned away from the American dream?



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

So if someone entered the land of the USA and wanted citizenship should be turned away from the American dream?

The American Dream is for US citizens. They can't be turned away from the American Dream as they have no right to it. No one has a right to live in America except US citizens, NO ONE.

If they go through the proper channels and gain LEGAL entry to the US, then they have the right to the American Dream.
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posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

So you need to be born in the US to achieve the American dream?



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:56 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

So you need to be born in the US to achieve the American dream?

Or gain LEGAL entry.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

" Let all that breathe partake; "



Hating Yourself Does Not Help Your Country ......



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Democrats could have got some mileage out of this Nationalist boogey-man. Then Hillary launched her "fake bombs" false-flag, and screwed Democrats...AGAIN, LOL.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

right... but walking into the US and seeking legal help isn't exactly legal right. just like all those irish and italians did when they flooded the new york harbors without any documentation at all.



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