originally posted by: CIAGypsy
a reply to: LABTECH767
You didn't put me on the defensive? I have been around ATS for a long time and have posted many times about this subject. Not that I expect you to
know that or reference any of those posts... However, it gets irritating when the same misinformation or beliefs get constantly brought up to
"defend" a pseudo-scientific belief that simply is not sound. This is not anything against you personally.
Without being able to publicly identify myself (an abhorrent idea because of the problems it would create), I can only back up my knowledge and
experience with the arguments I make on here which is no way to put an end to a debate. Thus part of my frustration. I can tell you that I have an
educational background in multiple degree programs including electrical and computer engineering and physics. However, I have played an intimate part
with several universities and other international "research groups" which have focused on subjects such as brain-computer interfacing, brain mapping,
extensive research on memory, and even subjects of a 'paranormal' or 'fringe science' nature. These programs are not my day-to-day life (I work in
banking, security, and with government), but projects I have sponsored and followed closely. I have enough education to qualify for a medical degree
and even a specialization in neurology, but have chosen not to certify it for other, personal reasons. There's simply no need.
Let me be clear that I am not saying that you can't influence or affect the brain with electromagnetics. This happens all the time even in our daily
life. You don't have to stretch your brain to come up weapons borne from electromagnetic technology. But what I *am* saying is that you cannot
create a Manchurian Candidate who has no knowledge or recollection of his actions through any current or known science. It is one thing to disperse
a crowd. It is another to create a mindless killer who didn't already have that predisposition.
Sorry for the late reply between my beta blockers and other medication if I am not feeling half asleep I am otherwise less than reliable.
I agree you can not 'Yet' create a fully controlled human puppet using simply electromagnetic inductive influence upon a subject's nervous system but
- and while I do believe that would be possible to do so it would require such intrusive and high energy system's as well as an intimate attuning and
tailoring of said energy system's to that individual's personal physiology that it would simply be completely impractical to do so - at least without
some kind of neural implant technology which would necessitate implanting the subject's brain's with some form of transceiver device without there
knowledge in most cases.
Were 'Branches' or 'Rogue' operators within the CIA, perhaps the NSA and other cover organizations as well as the KGB and also as I am inclined to
believe also the MI services and other organization's around the world with Japan surprisingly being rather high on that list and China now coming up
to speed have been able to create programmed individual's they have used completely different techniques based as you know around what we can broadly
call brainwashing or subject programming techniques and certainly in Russia and the West these techniques have been known about for a long time, at
least since the Nazi's and Soviet's indulged in there early research in this field.
But of course it is even older than that with Hypnosis and the so called Zombie drug's allowing individual's to be robbed of there will and
controlled since ancient time's.
EM weapon's however, well I do believe they are a very real danger - and also potentially a very real defense.
What the video suggested was based on a claim that the technology did NOT control an individual but that there was the ability much as I have
suggested to influence the mood of a broad swath of people within a targeted locality were there nervous system's could then be saturated and
inductively affected and even if only slightly this gave them the ability to instigate through this method an already riotous mob into a murderous
I do not know if the story itself is in any way true but if it is then it classified as a very genuine crime against humanity but what I do know is
that it is perhaps based very heavily upon capability's which I suspect extremely strongly that we in the west and most likely you in the US already
do have, I also suspect that the Chinese will also have obtained this technology and with there less than humane regime are likely using all of those
internment camp's (I can understand there general concern but not there method) they have set up for all manner of project's as well as to a definite
degree the claimed human organ harvesting which they have been accused of several time's in the past.
I am personally inclined to take it with a pinch of salt but only a pinch since there are indeed people in every nation whom would create such
technology if it is at all possible and I for one believe it is.
But no not remote controlled human - at least not without other form's of manipulation already having been used upon the subject but mood affecting
field's I most definitely believe are a genuine possibility - of course most research into that potential avenue of weaponization has been in regards
to ELF research since ELF can affect the human nervous system and some have claimed even the heart rate of targeted individual's.
However there are also a great many claim's to the reality of this subject.
Control over human subject's has long been the dream of the tyrant, a veritable thought police were they themselves would be the only one's immune to
there own control system.