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Trump Proposes To Restore Federal Definition Of Gender As Either A Male Or A Female NO EXCEPTIONS

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posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 04:58 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

The government doesnt decide that. No more than them ignoring latinos (calling them caucasian) decides f9rnus if Mexicans really exist.

Its classification for government records. Nothing more.




posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 05:18 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Government records and policy should be directed and formulated according to the highest standards of accuracy. For accuracy, you use science. It does not matter what area of life we are talking about, be it making useful adjustments to a piece of furniture, understanding and classifying gender and sex related markers in an individual, or calculating bullet drop over distance, science is the way to do those things, to know how best to achieve them.

To hear some in this thread talk, you would think that things are simple, and they are not. Government records should reflect the complexity of society, not seek to reduce it to a series of ill thought out numerical values, attributed to people who cannot be quantified simply, but must be understood complexly, in order that government can actually function toward society and the individual in ways which are useful to the individual and to society.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 05:18 AM
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From what I read they are changing the current law because a court has ruled that it infringes on peoples rights. Not a Trump thing a court thing that has played out. And you know how the Dims love courts!!



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 05:36 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha

First of all, genitalia is changeable. People have sex change surgeries all the time.


Not without medical intervention....... genitalia doesn't grow or drop off naturally.




Second, why on earth should/would the government get involved in the genetic testing of anyone? To see what prison they should go to, is one reason. So, the Trump administration wants to incarcerate transgender women with men and vice versa. Do I have to explain what protections transgender people lose in a prison scenario.



Perhaps the transgender would be 'criminal' should consider that before committing

the crime?

Transgender is their personal choice they should be aware of all consequences that

that choice will have on their lives, and not rely on others to fight their causes for them....

in other words *personal responsibility*.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 06:32 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: Vector99

We shouldn't be ignoring biology to coddle someone's mental illness.

These people are supposedly all about science. When science advances their sociopolitical agenda.

When it doesn't, science is as much of a target as religion or anything else they see as an obstacle.

I agree 100%

Born with penis - boy
Born with vagina - girl.

Feel free to self-identify however you like, but realize that science says otherwise!


Not to forget about the ones born with both parts. They are being marginalized again.

www.merriam-webster.com...

These people should be the ONLY transgenders recognized as they have to decide which way to look and perhaps get some hormonal help like those who insist they were born female in a male body. Or they have to stay hermaphrodite in appearances.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 06:38 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: tadaman

Most societies throughout history have acknowledged people born into the wrong gender.

Normalizing something that destroys the family is part of the bigger Marx picture.

But the history shows us they weren't foolish about what was there either as this leftist society is pushing us to ignore what is real in sports and elsewhere. You simply cant ignore the biological facts for mental ones about "feelings" of being the other sex.
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posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Gender is a sociology term relating to the sex a person identifies as. Sex is the biological term. So the Trump administration is actually going against research by redefining gender as a biological concept.


Anyone is free to identify as whatever they want., so no change there. Freedom.
However, as long as we can agree that a man who identifies as a woman is actually a man in all respects other than how they want to identify themselves, all good.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 07:44 AM
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A man goes into womans shop puts a dress on demands after that to be treated exactly as woman. Ridiculous.
Trannies are fake gender.
Who really wants to accept phonies into their lives.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:07 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

So we tell this young person that they are forced to go into the men’s room because they were born with a penis:



And we tell women they have to put up with this person being in the women’s room with them because he was born with a vagina:



Makes perfect sense.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: tadaman

Most societies throughout history have acknowledged people born into the wrong gender.

Normalizing something that destroys the family is part of the bigger Marx picture.

But the history shows us they weren't foolish about what was there either as this leftist society is pushing us to ignore what is real in sports and elsewhere. You simply cant ignore the biological facts for mental ones about "feelings" of being the other sex.


*GASP* Are you saying that Karl Marx was really a woman under that incredible beard??? THAT EXPLAINS SO MUCH!



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:15 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

yes we tell them to get into the toilet that is equipped best to deal with their natural biology.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:18 AM
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originally posted by: AthlonSavage
a reply to: kaylaluv

yes we tell them to get into the toilet that is equipped best to deal with their natural biology.



Please define 'natural biology', trying to use at least a modicum of taste and empathy.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:22 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: tadaman

Most societies throughout history have acknowledged people born into the wrong gender.
Really? I'm not so sure about that. But I supposed you can provide sources backing up your thoughts.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

woman = born with womb and vagina.
man = born with penius scrotum and possesses no womb.
I say them definitions cover 9.99999999999999 percent on planet.

Deformaties need to be judged on a case by case basis to see where they best fit.

Trannies however you want to cut it are abberations. A tranny can be a man who slips into a dress and places some blow up augmentations under his jumper to make it look like breasts. But this is all side tracking to the basic rights of freedom we all have.

That is no one has the right to push their delusion no matter how much they believe it real themselves on others. There is a campaign for years now to push this ideology onto us. There comes a point where people will say hey I do not think that's appropriate. for example if biological born woman do not want to share a toilet restroom with Mtf tranny that is their immutable right.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:29 AM
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Liberals: There is undeniable scientific proof of man made global warming.

Also Liberals: There are 47 genders.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:30 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99


I personally have no issue with trans people, but science is science and biology is biology.



Science shows that close to 1.7% of births are visibly intersex.

en.wikipedia.org...

A larger percent are born with genes that define one sex and genitalia that lean the other way, only becoming apparent around the time of puberty.

discovermagazine.com...

Nature assigns gender on a spectrum, not a binary determination.

At least up until recent times, doctors would often simply "choose" a sex when it wasn't visually clear and perform surgery on the baby to accommodate.


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posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

Science shows that close to 1.7% of births are visibly intersex.

That's bull#. Wikipedias owned by the NWO making up misleading stats.
We that have all grown up to be adults no their is clear discernment between men and woman. How many of your remembered 1.7% of gender hybrids in school?




edit on 22-10-2018 by AthlonSavage because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:36 AM
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a reply to: jjkenobi

See above. Science.

AND

GOP: Government shouldn't dictate people's personal lives, except for control over women's bodies, your love life, your sex life, your identity, your religion, your ethnicity, your race ad infinitum.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

The science your are referring to is just a link to wiki. Everyone knows Wikipedia is made by NWO to push global climate change this or that agendas.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:44 AM
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a reply to: AthlonSavage

Here's one of the two articles that are cited on the Wikipedia page. In the Abstract they actually say it could be as high as 2%.

How sexually dimorphic are we? Review and synthesis
edit on 10/22/2018 by Xcalibur254 because: (no reason given)




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