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Trump Proposes To Restore Federal Definition Of Gender As Either A Male Or A Female NO EXCEPTIONS

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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: neo96

Biological sex is defined by the sex chromosomes. Men are XY and women are XX. So then how do you categorize someone with Turner's syndrome where they only possess a single X chromosome. Or what about someone with trisomy X where they possess three X chromosomes.

There are a number of sex chromosome disorders that don't adhere to the standard XX/XY paradigm. Then beyond that you have things like the previously mentioned AIS where a person has XY chromosomes but physically appear to be female.

How do all of these things fit into this administration's very narrow definition of gender?


Easy fix.....you say they have TURNERS FREAKING SYNDROME...not that they are gender confused and need to invent names and ideologies to fit their self-expressed and self--diagnosed confusion...

It is simple...like it ALWAYS SHOULD HAVE BEEN...there is Female and there is Male...then there are a constellation of genetic abberations that conform neither to Female nor to Male.....there are IDENTIFYABLE DOCUMENTABLE medical genetic based reasons for these ABNORMALITIES such that humanity can fairly and squarely say that in order to help ourselves we first must help others ….we help by identifying naming and managing these genetic abnormalities....we do not enable and allow each of these abnormal conditions to catalyse into a small special interest group with real tangible impacts so it may more easily espouse and promote itself as the new normal...for it cannot and never shall be the new normal...abnormal is definable .


Now people who are born sick can get the help they need to arrive at the gender destination they were suppossed to arrive at ..its about time we began providing chromosomal and other types of corrective therapy for these people who we are responsible for helping....no more butchery and gender re-assignment operations...nope that is barbaric and inhumane....we will research develop and apply chromosomal ultra-therapy which will encourage the genetic template to complete itself definitively.




posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 08:24 PM
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Looks like the NWO have decided to cut their losses and sacrifice the transgender to the populous.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 08:34 PM
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a reply to: neo96

A transgender person can get breast cancer. Therefore that makes him female according to that comment.
A man can get breast cancer. Anyone who has breast tissue can get breast cancer.

Thanks for the incorrect info. In that case we DO have to be concerned that what the Trump Administration is "considering" due to this type of rhetoric, will have an adverse impact on society as a whole.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 08:37 PM
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originally posted by: dreamingawake
a reply to: neo96

A transgender person can get breast cancer. Therefore that makes him female according to that comment.
A man can get breast cancer. Anyone who has breast tissue can get breast cancer.

Thanks for the incorrect info. In that case we DO have to be concerned that what the Trump Administration is "considering" due to this type of rhetoric, will have an adverse impact on society as a whole.



LOL...did you miss the memo ….lol...there is no such thing as TRANSGENDER.....the word will be redacted.www.bing.com... r&sc=8-11&qs=n&sk=&cvid=8be015cde74547ccdf521931bcce9b7c...it is not about how you feel it is about who you are geneticlly.

We will see new correct verbology being created as we see these wrongs corrected...because we now have the medical technology to correct these abnormalities now...the superstructure built around these abnomalities can now be disassembled and disenfranchised....societies concerns for this very small group of geneticlly unbalanced are very real and everyone wants to help...help FIX THE PROBLEM...not help give it a life of its own an identity of its own a tangible reach into our world courts and homes of its own....nope...full stop....now we have the technology to finally help those we so dearly love ....and now no one has to fight to make abnormal be the new normal to support a genetic lacking ...we can help...now lets ask Trump for more funding specificlly for this type of Corrective Chromosomal Therapy. Lets get down to business.


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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: one4all

According to your link it's the definition.
Good go.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 08:47 PM
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Theres always gonna be mental illness, but some day science will fix genetic f-ups.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 08:47 PM
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These are the pressing issues we need to be focusing on, what people choose to call themselves. This will definitely fix a lots of our issues.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: BoscoMoney

Gattaca! Gattaca! Gattaca!



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
These are the pressing issues we need to be focusing on, what people choose to call themselves. This will definitely fix a lots of our issues.

When discrimination lawsuits against businesses are flying around, it does kinda matter.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 11:17 PM
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Time to hire the potty police to make sure EVERYONE has the right genitalia. Screw everyone's privacy as long as the right can go after another minority like the rabid dogs they are.

I cannot wait for all the lawsuits against the senile cheese puff and his crooked bunch of zealots. Nothing but a bunch of blithering hypocrites.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Stemming from this logic, then a boy at birth must then therefore be straight.

That's not how everything works.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 12:21 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Gender is a sociology term relating to the sex a person identifies as. Sex is the biological term. So the Trump administration is actually going against research by redefining gender as a biological concept.


You're lost in a world of liberal nonsense.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 12:30 AM
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originally posted by: ghaleon12
Stemming from this logic, then a boy at birth must then therefore be straight.

At birth there is no sexual orientation, until they grow up and make the decision (consciously or otherwise). However as being "straight" is the natural order of things (otherwise we wouldn't be a very successful species) the argument could be made that a boy at birth is indeed "straight".



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 12:41 AM
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a reply to: Vector99

How many of those have their been over the past couple of years exactly? Is it some kind of epidemic or is it just a once in a blue moon kind of situation? I think that goes a long way towards figuring our how important it is.
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posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 12:55 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: Vector99

We shouldn't be ignoring biology to coddle someone's mental illness.

These people are supposedly all about science. When science advances their sociopolitical agenda.

When it doesn't, science is as much of a target as religion or anything else they see as an obstacle.

I agree 100%

Born with penis - boy
Born with vagina - girl.

Feel free to self-identify however you like, but realize that science says otherwise!


The problem you then have is people born intersex.
en.wikipedia.org...

Since in the US you can not force unneeded or unwanted medical treatment on someone the courts are going to side with the intersex person.

And doing sex assignment surgery on infants is now being seen as Human rights violation in many countries.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 02:13 AM
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a reply to: ANNED

That part was covered.

The department argued in its memo that key government agencies needed to adopt an explicit and uniform definition of gender as determined “on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.” The agency’s proposed definition would define sex as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with, according to a draft reviewed by The Times. Any dispute about one’s sex would have to be clarified using genetic testing.

So if they have genetic abnormalities such as XO XXX XXY XY(female), genetic testing would resolve it.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 02:19 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Vector99

How many of those have their been over the past couple of years exactly? Is it some kind of epidemic or is it just a once in a blue moon kind of situation? I think that goes a long way towards figuring our how important it is.

I honestly couldn't tell you, and don't care to look into it, but do you think business owners care if it's once in a while or quite often? It only takes ONE lawsuit to ruin a business.

Personally, if I were a brick and mortar business, I would be proactive and invest in a third restroom, designated gender neutral that anyone can use. The initial cost of building the restroom would be fairly costly, but a whole lot cheaper than a multi-million dollar lawsuit. If I were an owner that couldn't afford that, I would close one of the restrooms and convert the other into a single-occupant restroom.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 02:41 AM
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you "patriots" are pathetic... small government, but we want the government to decide what and who people are because it makes us feel uncomfortable



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 02:43 AM
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Funny, how many members are in this thread VERY HARD not to come out of the closet... Okay, this was too close for some, I guess. Take a laugh, smile or fake creepy *meh*, you are alright!

Seriously, what part of the population are we talking about?
Is it really necessary, making so much fuss about what? 0.01% of the population?

Is it because your conservative upbringing is making your brain itch in a place only advanced surgery or a bullet might be able to reach? So you have to protest about a very minor part of the citizens who are having problems finding their place in the world?

Keep trying to have your hands in their problems. They have enough on their own, and people trying to forbid them to have their place is the wrongest way to deal with this.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 04:40 AM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Those speaking to the scientific "fact" of the binary nature of gender and sexual identity, are doing so in error.

Intersex conditions, which covers everything from "confusing" genital structure, right the way down to chemical differences that put a persons actual neurochemical and sexual biology, at variance with their outward appearance, are more common than heaps of things, including cystic fibrosis and being ginger!

Unless you are willing to deny that cystic fibrosis and being ginger are scientifically factual conditions that a person can have, which, for the record, would be ridiculous, then I fail to see what angle you are approaching this from, if you are trying to hold aloft a scientific principle. Science recognises these conditions as being real things. Its only the luddites and those who wish to remain in the dark ages, of the flat Earth and the floating lamp for a sun, who seem to be most militant against the notion that their binary understanding of an actually complex and multifaceted thing, might need to change to fit reality, rather than the other way around.

Things that are not convenient to your way of thinking may be troublesome for you, and cause society to become slightly different than you expected it to be, but that does not mean that you can simply deny their existence and carry on your day. If your understanding does not measure up to the facts, your understanding is at fault, and calling on science as your shield, when your entire belief on the matters at hand ignores the science entirely, is utterly illogical and invalid.




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