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Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence

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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: BenignChaos

A real success story for sure.

💥😃💥





posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:31 PM
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originally posted by: BenignChaos
a reply to: roadgravel

If anyone wanted to violate someone's safety in the bathroom they don't have to use being trans as an excuse. Transgender people have been using their bathroom of choice for years, why is it an issue now?


And I was actually on criminal jury duty, jury selection, for a man using the woman facilities. Seems it was against the law.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: BenignChaos
Or you could just leave it alone. Let people live without trying to have control over them. It is not your body. It is not your life.

Obama should have left it alone during his administration. If the OP article is true, then Trump is only re-normalizing things to what they should be, not trying to control anybody's personal decisions.
edit on 21/10/18 by Navieko because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:35 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
Everyone opposed to this says that trannies will lose their rights; Can someone please tell me what those rights are? What can they do now that they won't be able to do if this happens? If you want to mutilate your body and love in fantasy land, more power to you, but it only makes sense that you're still defined as either a male or female, based on your genes.


So which bathroom do you want them to use? What sports teams do they join? How do you want to count them for EEOC statistics?

The only rational way; Based on their biology.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany




The Trump administration is considering narrowly defining gender as a biological, immutable condition determined by genitalia at birth,.....



Transgenders are artificially created genders and are not bonafide conversions.
A trangenders woman cannot deliver a baby from a womb.
A transgendered man cannot father a child with a woman.

For good or bad we are born male or female. I can emphasis with individuals who feel they should of been born
other gender. It is however what it is a immutable condition.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: roadgravel

What changes? There are no changes needed. Both male and female bathrooms have stalls that lock. People go in, do their business, and come out. How hard is that to comprehend?



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: AthlonSavage

It is not the government's place to dictate if a person can change their gender marker. That is not what their job is.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:38 PM
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Transgender is a mental illness



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:39 PM
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Start with the Texas legislature and get them to change the laws. The would help remove potential liability.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: Navieko

A person should have the right to change their gender marker. It wasn't an issue before Obama brought it up, I agree. People did their toilet business in privacy.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:41 PM
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It is not the government's place to dictate if a person can change their gender marker. That is not what their job is.


The government are mean't to in a technical textbook sense serve the peoples will. What is required is a poll to determine if the majority recognise transgender as true gender. Mabey they do and then mabey they don't. If they don't then the laws should be reflective of that. I doubt the majority would vote in recognition but then until a poll is taken who can say with certainty.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: Aallanon

What a disrespectful comment. Anything is a mental illness if it doesn't fit the view of people these days.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: BenignChaos
a reply to: Navieko

A person should have the right to change their gender marker. It wasn't an issue before Obama brought it up, I agree. People did their toilet business in privacy.

Should they be able to decide what race they are too? Maybe identify as handicapped if they want so they can get better parking? Gender is biological and all the mutilation in the world won't change that.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

What bathroom should a person with androgen insensitivity syndrome use? Technically they're male at the genetic level but appear to be female.

All of you people harping on about how the Trump administration is just listening to the science (which they definitely aren't) ignore the fact that even at the biological level sex is much more complicated than just male and female.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

What bathroom should a person with androgen insensitivity syndrome use? Technically they're male at the genetic level but appear to be female.

Nothing in the subject of this thread (the purported memo) is about bathroom use. Please stay on topic.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Well a man can identify as a woman, then a few weeks later a DOG!





posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: AthlonSavage

Why is it up to the majority to decide upon how a person identifies? If that's the case then a poll can decide if homosexuality is really an orientation. You cannot put the lives of people up for a vote. There shouldn't even be a gender law in the first place!



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: BenignChaos

Because America is a democracy which decision making process enacted through laws works on the premise of majority rule. That is how it is.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

Why do Transgendered people care what the government thinks of them?



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: BenignChaos
A person should have the right to change their gender marker. It wasn't an issue before Obama brought it up, I agree. People did their toilet business in privacy.

What you propose is an idealistic fantasy that has no place in reality, when it comes to enforcing laws/rules governed by biological sex. Sure a person has the right to identify as whatever gender they want, but they do not have the right to be legally seen as their preferred gender by the rest of the sane world.







 
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