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The perfect solution for Illegal Immigrants - Donate Organs

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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 05:51 AM
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dispicable.......

Way to promote and abet human trafficking even more than it already is....

Christ..... I really can't understsnd the thought processes behind so many people these days


edit on 10/21/2018 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 05:56 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

OMG, friend, I had this exact idea a couple weeks ago. Even discussed it with my wife!

Love America and want instant citizenship? Opt in by saving a citizen thru donating an organ and boom, you're in. After all, complete strangers often donate an organ to save someone.

I'd still leave the regular 'legal' immigration paths open too, the organ thing would be like a 'fast track' solution for those who would consider it a good option.

Brilliant minds and all that....



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 05:59 AM
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originally posted by: tjack
a reply to: JAGStorm

OMG, friend, I had this exact idea a couple weeks ago. Even discussed it with my wife!

Love America and want instant citizenship? Opt in by saving a citizen thru donating an organ and boom, you're in. After all, complete strangers often donate an organ to save someone.

I'd still leave the regular 'legal' immigration paths open too, the organ thing would be like a 'fast track' solution for those who would consider it a good option.

Brilliant minds and all that....


There's nothing brilliant about an idea that facilitates more human trafficking especially for freaking bossy parts......

Think its bad now... Give coyotes an excuse to kidnap even more people to make money off selling organs to the US on the black market....

You guys are insane



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

How is it human trafficking if it's an opt-in system? If anything, it cuts out the coyote 'middle man'.
edit on 21-10-2018 by tjack because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 06:26 AM
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originally posted by: tjack
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

How is it human trafficking if it's an opt-in system? If anything, it cuts out the coyote 'middle man'.


Sure like porous borders cut out the coyote middle man.....

The only thing it would do is encourage coyotes to round up people to sell their body parts man.... And encourage trafficking for profit..... You seriously think for a second the already horrendous black marker organ dealing wouldn't exploit this????

How can you not see that....

Christ I guess I gave people more credit to think critically



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

You need to pay attention to what I'm saying...

The system I'm envisioning would be an alternative path to US citizenship open to foreigners WILLING to take that path. Just like some people are willing to make a similar donation to save a stranger.

NOT some trafficker with an ice chest full of stolen kidneys for sale.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 06:37 AM
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originally posted by: tjack
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

You need to pay attention to what I'm saying...

The system I'm envisioning would be an alternative path to US citizenship open to foreigners WILLING to take that path. Just like some people are willing to make a similar donation to save a stranger.

NOT some trafficker with an ice chest full of stolen kidneys for sale.


It doesn't matter what you FEEL the system is, it would be exploited.....

And trading body parts for citizenship is just a plain horrible and barbaric premise......

That's m sure the mob, the Thai and Chinese underground organ trades, along w the cartels would LOVE it though.....

Just another revenue addition to their drug trafficking



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 06:39 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

It doesn't matter what you FEEL the system is, it would be exploited.....



How?

All I'm saying is there might be a creative win/win solution to obtaining citizenship and the life saving gift of organ donation.
edit on 21-10-2018 by tjack because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 06:42 AM
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originally posted by: tjack

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

It doesn't matter what you FEEL the system is, it would be exploited.....



How?


I feel like I've outlined this multiple times......



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 06:47 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: tjack

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

It doesn't matter what you FEEL the system is, it would be exploited.....



How?


I feel like I've outlined this multiple times......


I don't, all youir doing is saying "somehow" black market forces will exploit the idea.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 06:52 AM
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originally posted by: tjack

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: tjack

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

It doesn't matter what you FEEL the system is, it would be exploited.....



How?


I feel like I've outlined this multiple times......


I don't, all youir doing is saying "somehow" black market forces will exploit the idea.


So in all my posts..... In all the things I've said and explained......

You can't noodle that one out huh?????

Well that would explain why you think trading organs for citizenship is a good idea.....



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 06:54 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: tjack

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: tjack

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

It doesn't matter what you FEEL the system is, it would be exploited.....



How?


I feel like I've outlined this multiple times......


I don't, all youir doing is saying "somehow" black market forces will exploit the idea.


So in all my posts..... In all the things I've said and explained......

You can't noodle that one out huh?????

Well that would explain why you think trading organs for citizenship is a good idea.....


Easier to attack my intelligence than explain how it woudn't work huh? You've done it a few times now. Ok.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 06:57 AM
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originally posted by: tjack

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: tjack

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: tjack

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

It doesn't matter what you FEEL the system is, it would be exploited.....



How?


I feel like I've outlined this multiple times......


I don't, all youir doing is saying "somehow" black market forces will exploit the idea.


So in all my posts..... In all the things I've said and explained......

You can't noodle that one out huh?????

Well that would explain why you think trading organs for citizenship is a good idea.....


Easier to attack my intelligence than explain how it woudn't work huh? You've done it a few times now. Ok.


Never attacked your intelligence... I attacked the logic in implementing your idea......

Big difference

And again I explained several times....in really plain terms.... I honestly cannot think of any simpler way to say it
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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 10:19 AM
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All I'm saying is there might be a creative win/win solution to obtaining citizenship and the life saving gift of organ donation.


You get it!

Many people in the past have said military service should be a path to citizenship too, this is along the same lines.

It would be a willing and happy tradeoff. There is no way this could be exploited. There would be zero money involved, you donate and only you get citizenship period.

There aren't enough Americans that signed up for donation right now, there is a deficit. Just imagine, grandma gets a kidney, Tommy gets a bone marrow donation, and an immigrants gets citizenship.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

Disgusting suggestion.

Go ahead, make the world an uglier place ...not funny in the slightest.

Where the F are the Mods on ATS?

Is this really a worthy post?



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

As Long as " I " , a Individualistic Misanthrope with Noble Intentions towards my Fellow Man , was Not Among those Unfortunate Souls , Explanation Excepted .............)



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: tjack
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

How is it human trafficking if it's an opt-in system? If anything, it cuts out the coyote 'middle man'.



True , but you Still Have to Pay for the Logistics in their Movements .



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: SeaYote
a reply to: JAGStorm

Disgusting suggestion.

Go ahead, make the world an uglier place ...not funny in the slightest.

Where the F are the Mods on ATS?

Is this really a worthy post?



Panties in a Bunch Much ? The MAN has a RIGHT To His Opinion Here " Sir/Madam/Whatever .



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
dispicable.......

Way to promote and abet human trafficking even more than it already is....

Christ..... I really can't understsnd the thought processes behind so many people these days


Every single time money changes hands, the participants are unknowingly participating in "human trafficking". If you have a job, you're actually just a slave. You can go anywhere you like as long as you never take off the shackles.




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