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Children being teargassed as Mexico attempts to repel the Propaganda Caravan

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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


This is a Soros , UN Backed Invasion of the United States . Say what you Will about Alex Jones , but Seldom is the Information he sends out there is Untrue ............Listen...........








posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

We need to find buttholes funding these caravans and arrest them for human trafficking and seize all their assets. Apparently the people backing the caravans do not care they are violating the laws of multiple countries by doing this they are not helping the poor as they claim they just trying to get the Latin and immigrant vote because if it was about helping the poor well we got an Everest sized mountain of them here myself included and they ain't doing Jack to help the poor here and I do not mean handouts.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 02:03 PM
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originally posted by: proteus33
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

We need to find buttholes funding these caravans and arrest them for human trafficking and seize all their assets.


There actually could be made a big argument about it equating to human trafficking. Interesting!



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 02:14 PM
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The Democratic party is now the party of the Marxists. This is just what Marxists do. Sacrifice anyone or anything to gain power. Once the red tidal wave is over and the dust settles we truly need is another McCarthy type senate hearing to out the enemies of this country. This time we will expel them to any country that will take them. If we act to civil with these people after the dust settles our children's children will have to deal with it again. This is no time for compromise. Hopefully the Democrats will self purge and get back to being American with CONSTRUCTIVE alternative ideas for the country. Cowing to these crazy gen-xer's and their free everything ideas must go. And gaining power with soft invasions of your country will NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


WOW , Google Just KILLED this A.J. Video as a Link . Never the Less , It Still is Up ............FU Google !





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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

You make interesting points throughout Ket. For one, yes, to many Americans are and have been oblivious to the machinations of behind the scenes power brokers around the world. That, under the guise of ''it's good for America'' these people and groups have screwed with just about every country in the hemisphere. The exploitation of agricultural lands that natives depended on turning it into refineries and rubber plants, coffee plantations, sugar producers etc. Local people that could have continued their lives in pastoral setting or agricultural setting have been forced to give up their lands and work on the farms and plantations owned by the rich guys from the north.

No, I don't blame everything on the USA because most of us have not come close to understanding what the reality has been south of us. We have been happy to accept the nice pictures of Juan Valdez and friends happily tending the crops, while the reality was much darker.

As for them marching north, well that is a big question as well. Somewhere in this thread, probably just north of this post was the concept that moving these people like is happening might be considered in a way as ''human trafficing'.. That struck me and is worth considering.

You wonder if these people are victims. I do as well. Are they really people who have drawn the short straws in countries that are incapable of sustaining their own populations? I think it likely, though as you point out, proof of anything is in short supply. I come down on the side that urges compassion for them. That there could be among them agitators and such needs to be considered and watched for.

But for me, a big question is just who is it that is promoting these people to believe, in their innocence and pllights, that the ''world of promise'' to the north is the answer to their suffering. Who is it.

I was a suburban boy as a teen. I spent one summer picking cukes for a dollar an hour. 1966. I worked along side of peasants from '' south of the border''' in what was then the ''brazero' program where people would come from the south to harvest crops and then go back home when the seasons were over. Those people worked harder and longer than I did and for half the pay. I can never forget that.

It was not the American people who brought those people to work the fields. It was the American companies that did so. Did so and payed a standard of wage lower than what they would pay a high school student. Move on from then and the issues of ''legals'' working in fields to ''illegals'' working in fields, and factories and plants and construction sites and motel servicing and rich peoples mansions, all for less than what would be paid to a citizen laborer.

Just who were and are these exploiters and why have they not received the brunt of our disdain instead of the ''illegals'' themselves. All these decades and these people continue to believe that life will be better for them here because ''why"????

Because Americans want their cheaper labor. ICE goes after them and year after year hardly touches those that employ and seduce them to come here.

And I think you are absolutely right when you say that it matters not who we have voted for because this has been promoted by exploiters. My main gripe with the current spate of accusations is that all of this is to be blamed on liberals, which is bull#. There are exploiters across the political spectrum and in many cases those without any real affiliation other than which party will most expediently allow their ''trafficing'' to continue,

You call it the bureaucratic Deep State UNiparty which is good enough for me though I prefer to call them dominionists, those who feel that everything is theirs for the taking regardless of who gets threshed in the harvest.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 09:49 PM
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They made it passed that bridge.


Their numbers swelled to about 5,000 overnight and at first light they set out walking toward the Mexican town of Tapachula, 10 abreast in a line stretching approximately a mile (1.5 kilometers).
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It was not immediately clear where the additional travelers had materialized from since about 2,000 gathered on the Mexican side Saturday night. They seemed likely to be people who had been waiting on the bridge over the Suchiate River or in the Guatemalan town of Tecun Uman and who decided to cross during the night. At dawn there were still an estimated 1,500 migrants on the Guatemalan side hoping to enter legally. They marched on through Mexico like a rag tag army of the poor, shouting triumphantly slogans like “Si se pudo!” or “Yes, we could!”

As they passed through Mexican villages on the outskirts of Ciudad Hidalgo, they drew applause, cheers and donations of food and clothing from Mexicans. Maria Teresa Orellana, a resident of the neighborhood of Lorenzo handed out free sandals to the migrants as they passed. “It’s solidarity,” she said. “They’re our brothers.”

Olivin Castellanos, 58, a truck driver and mason from Villanueva, Honduras, said he took a raft across the river after Mexico blocked the bridge. “No one will stop us, only God,” he said. “We knocked down the door and we continue walking.” He wants to reach the U.S. to work. “I can do this,” he said, pointing to the asphalt under his feet. “I’ve made highways.”

The migrants, who said they gave up trying to enter Mexico legally because the asylum application process was too slow, gathered Saturday at a park in the border city of Ciudad Hidalgo. They voted by a show of hands to continue north en masse, then marched to the bridge crossing the Suchiate River and urged those still on it to come join them. The decision to re-form the migrant caravan capped a day in which Mexican authorities again refused mass entry to migrants on the bridge, instead accepting small groups for asylum processing and giving out 45-day visitor permits to some. Authorities handed out numbers for people to be processed in a strategy seen before at U.S. border posts when dealing with large numbers of migrants. time.com...

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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 10:29 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

No. You mistake that.

Most Americans don't want their cheaper labor. Most Americans are well aware of what their cheaper labor does to the average American laborer. It undercuts us at every turn and makes it harder for us to earn a decent wage.

Because they come here illegally they can be paid under the table. It isn't their work ethic we disdain. It's their willingness to break the law to come here and use that work ethic, earning wages less than what the general labor pool here would otherwise sustain.

And most Americans, at least most conservatives I know of, also know that government has no desire to fix the problem because on the one side the Chamber of Commerce likes the cheap labor and on the other the Democrats like what they see as an entire voting underclass they can pander to and by votes from with government largess.

There is little political will to fix the problem.

Why do you think Trump's tough immigration stance got so much traction? The chain has to be stopped at some stage in the game in order for Americans to be employed.
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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 11:57 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Because they come here illegally they can be paid under the table. It isn't their work ethic we disdain. It's their willingness to break the law to come here and use that work ethic, earning wages less than what the general labor pool here would otherwise sustain.


Thank you very much for that perspective. I had not managed that point of view before, me being so angered with the bosses who hire them. I can understand the economic reasons to keep illegal immigrants out of the country. That is sound. However, do we just let the bosses go free? The ones who hire and pay under the table rather than paying fairer and legal wages to licensed employees, that is citizens and legal workers? Why do you suppose it is that conservatives rail on against the poor who come here seeking those low under the table wages rather than focusing on the bosses....See? That is another thing that I don't understand.

People who work for lesser and illegal wages such as these are not well off, they need the work and as is noted often have a solid work ethic. Why are they vilified while the bosses are not, at least to the same degree.
I know the liberal argument for this, it is simple racism, The workers are brown and the bosses white. That is the classic liberal stance, but what is the classic conservative stance on that if not racism? Please tell me. Why hate the workers and not the bosses. Why criminalize the workers and not the bosses who ARE citizens.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 01:15 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

More of socialist media deceit and lies,I'm sure they are all paid to perform their acts for TV,not unlike any Democrat story



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 01:20 AM
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posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 05:27 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


Their numbers swelled to about 5,000 overnight and at first light they set out walking toward the Mexican town of Tapachula, 10 abreast in a line stretching approximately a mile (1.5 kilometers). ... It was not immediately clear where the additional travelers had materialized from since about 2,000 gathered on the Mexican side Saturday night.


It should be perfectly clear now to anyone still on the fence that this is an INVASION force now. Curious how over three thousand just showed up out of nowhere. This has to be stopped and I can't see a clear reason not to bring the military in to lock our border down.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 07:25 AM
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Like I said. It has to be stopped somewhere, and if Congress won't act, then the Executive is constrained by what it can do through what tools it has.

I would prefer it be stopped all up and down the chain, but one step at a time. The reality is that most of what we discuss is part of immigration enforcement, even the employment side of things. It all falls under the same legal area is my understanding.

There are stories out here a lot about immigration raiding meat packing plants, for example, to round up illegal workers. And a lot of the area contractors will undercut each other with cheap labor that isn't strictly legal. It can make a couple thousand dollars' difference in your final bill to hire legal labor. We know. We took that step with our basement waterproofing.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

what does this have to do with democrats if you dont mind my asking?

please dont throw any stupid conspiracy theories at me. I want a real answer.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 07:34 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

We should just welcome them here. Why not?
we have low paying jobs that Americans dont want to do that need doing.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 07:36 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

You're a couple-few days late. You might read the thread.




posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:16 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: ketsuko

We should just welcome them here. Why not?
we have low paying jobs that Americans dont want to do that need doing.


You haven't been thinking about a word I am saying.

Do you think Americans won't do those jobs, or is it more a matter of Americans not being able to afford those jobs at the rates illegals being paid under the table sans taxes and with kids who pull full welfare and benefits can afford to do those jobs?



I know maths is hard, but it's a good thing they do it for you.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:19 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

And all those entry level jobs our youths could be doing to enter the workforce... where here I hear all the time how the bulk of the Millennial Generation have generally had little to no part in the workforce. Well no effing wonder.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 08:22 AM
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You know, Rush Limbaugh absolutely nailed it last week when he said the caravan of poor helpless migrants would somehow be assaulted or some form of violence and the media would run stories on the poor women and children. Then blame it on Trump and Republicans.

Damn, he's good.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: ketsuko

We should just welcome them here. Why not?
we have low paying jobs that Americans dont want to do that need doing.

cool, they can stay at your house. What's the address, so I can post it at the crossings?



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