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Saudi killing overshadowing Central American Carvan in news coverage?

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posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 10:23 PM
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I understand that the killing of the Saudi reporter is interesting and significant but it seems to be getting much less coverage than the caravan of law breakers stampeding over border crossing on their way to attempt to illegally enter the US. This "migration" (it really should be called an invasion, there is no other terms which better defines this) as well as the Syrian "refugee" crisis Europe suffered seems all too planned out and reminds me of the "swarms of locusts" foretold in The book of Revelation.




Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the [a]bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit. 3 Then out of the smoke locusts came upon the earth. And to them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4 They were commanded not to harm the grass of the earth, or any green thing, or any tree, but only those men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5 And they were not given authority to kill them, but to torment them for five months. Their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it strikes a man. 6 In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will flee from them.


I have seen little converge of this swarm and the video's I've seen it looks like the VAST majority is middle aged men. I want to know what kind of man leaves his family behind in a country that is "so dangerous" that they flee to another country for saftey. Oddly enough, this EXACT same thing happened in Europe where the largest percentage of "refugees" were young to middle aged men. Also, I think there are A LOT more than 3,000 people in this invasion swarm from some video's I saw I would have guessed more like 10-15,000 people.

Check out this video at around the 10 minute mark to get an idea of the size of the mob. If you remember correctly all the numbers were greatly underestimated during the Syrian "migration" by the media and I think they are doing it here as well.




What I find odd is that all these people look very well fed, have 'nice" clothes (not rags), have backpacks, etc. I don't see people using trash bags to carry things and make-shift bags/suitecases like people in Syria did. I guess we will have to see how Mexico responds to this. Also, the timing is a little suspect with the election coming up.




posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

These individuals are stuck on the southern border of Mexico. With a rate of 100 a day being heard by Mexico in regards to claims of asylum or otherwise. Unless there is some civil unrest, you will not hear about these folk again.



posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Liberal outlets are extremely disappointed that the Caravan has been halted successfully in southern Mexico, thanks to the agreement reached between the U.S. and Mexico. So disappointed, they're still reporting that it's on it's way to the U.S..

The latest, that disappointed MSM won't tell you: www.afp.com...

P.S. I got kick out of a FAKE NEWS CNN "reporter", describing how he was shrouded in tear gas. He wasn't even coughing. Must have been fog, lol.
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posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 11:15 PM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

I only learned about this yesterday and it was a crying woman with kids they showed on tv. It's refugees not a mob, humans looking for a better life. I'm not sure what's going on in Honduras that made this many people leave at once? Can someone here show me where I get more information?
I understand that it's scary these people want to live like you do and I like a good conspiracy but to call it Invasion they should be armed, they're not.

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posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 11:20 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Liberal outlets are extremely disappointed that the Caravan has been halted successfully in southern Mexico, thanks to the agreement reached between the U.S. and Mexico. So disappointed, they're still reporting that it's on it's way to the U.S..

The latest, that disappointed MSM won't tell you: www.afp.com...

P.S. I got kick out of a FAKE NEWS CNN "reporter", describing how he was shrouded in tear gas. He wasn't even coughing. Must have been fog, lol.


Man that article is a real tear jerker with all the talk about what all these women and young children have to endure but when I watch the video's of the mob I saw almost NO children, little people or even many women. They must have had to really hunt for those few groups that had children.

This seems like a really peaceful group as well. They decide to throw rocks and other things when they are denied immediate entry into Mexico. Who would want people like that in their country?



posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 11:26 PM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

They're desperate. Do you think a walk like that with all your belongings in a bag is fun?
They must be hungry, thirsty and are fighting for their life.



posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 11:30 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

How many Sovereign states have they been in without invoking sanctuary?



posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 11:34 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

They're desperate. Do you think a walk like that with all your belongings in a bag is fun?
They must be hungry, thirsty and are fighting for their life.


They look just like cruise ship passengers who have disembarked for a tour of the countryside. Have you seen them on television? Their clothes are better than what Walmart sells. More like "Target" quality.



posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: randomtangentsrme

They want a true improvement. The wealth of the US is what they want to be a part of. And that will go on for as long as the states are five times more wealthy than the surrounding nations. The human always strives for more convenience.

a reply to: carewemust

So? Target prices in relation to their countries income.
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posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 11:44 PM
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I will bet dollars to donuts, Juaquin Castro, knows why the msm is covering the Saudi killing rather than the thousands of Hondurans heading this way. Look here, do not look there.



posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 11:52 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

What is the old saying? Wish in one hand and. . .
Sad days.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

They are fleeing poverty and gang violence; one of those gangs being the same MS13 that president Trump has been bringing up.

Trump's opponents would have us believe that MS13 is not that big a problem. If that is true, then why are thousands of people fleeing the violence of that very same gang?

Note, the article carewemust linked states that the murder rate for Honduras is 43 per 100,000 individuals. Well, they better be careful where they settle if they make it to the US as there are a few cities with higher murder rates than that.



Wikipedia - 2015 numbers

Note also that these folks started fighting the Mexican police when they were denied entry but I can find no mention anywhere of any of them fighting the gang violence back in their home country.

If they think their country is lost to the gangs, why then are they proudly flying their home country's flag if they wouldn't stay there and fight to clean up their nation?

Something is not adding up.
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posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 12:06 AM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
I will bet dollars to donuts, Juaquin Castro, knows why the msm is covering the Saudi killing rather than the thousands of Hondurans heading this way. Look here, do not look there.


I was confused at first but you are saying that he made up that story about Kushner to get the story MSM air time and they would ignore the "immigrants"? I wonder how they decided to try to pin this on Jared, do they have a formula where depending upon how badly they need to draw attention away from another issue, they pick a different Trump to pick on, like if they wanted even more/longer coverage they would have used Ivanka or Don Jr instead of Jared's name.?

As far as this story about people looking for a better life, tell me why these people couldn't go to an american embassy and apply for asylum, visa or whatever. They supposedly have "free movement" within central American countries, so they could go to ANY US embassy and apply. If they are approved there are programs that help move these people to the states if they are a legitimate refugee.

What they are doing is trying to put Mexico and the US in a position where they have to accept these people at the boarder, if they are turned back then Mexico has to deal with 3-15,000 angry Hondurans traveling back through their country, which will cause problems.

I can't see how going to an embassy in any of the Central American countries wouldn't be the best choice, but the reason they don't is because they know they won't bet the status they are looking for, so they try to put the US in a position where they look like tyrants by saying no. Wouldn't it be better to apply at home if they have young children instead of making them "walk" 1,600 - 2,000+ miles with no planning along the way? Seems they haven't thought this through very well. I wonder if they have been told and or paid to do this and maybe they are told they will surely get in.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 12:20 AM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Thanks for the info.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 12:24 AM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Peeple

They are fleeing poverty and gang violence; one of those gangs being the same MS13 that president Trump has been bringing up.

Trump's opponents would have us believe that MS13 is not that big a problem. If that is true, then why are thousands of people fleeing the violence of that very same gang?

Note, the article carewemust linked states that the murder rate for Honduras is 43 per 100,000 individuals. Well, they better be careful where they settle if they make it to the US as there are a few cities with higher murder rates than that.



Wikipedia - 2015 numbers

Note also that these folks started fighting the Mexican police when they were denied entry but I can find no mention anywhere of any of them fighting the gang violence back in their home country.

If they think their country is lost to the gangs, why then are they proudly flying their home country's flag if they wouldn't stay there and fight to clean up their nation?

Something is not adding up.


Those are good points and from what I have seen in reports is that the murders (in most all Central & South American countries + Mexico) are most often between the gangs and sometimes police. The majority of the murders are similar to the gang violence the US had from the 70's to 2000, so these statistics don't actually show what the citizens are facing. What these murder numbers are showing is that they have lots of gang violence which is something every country goes through be it "legal gangs" like police or things like the mafia. Stay out of their way, don't do business with them and for the most part that isn't much of a problem.

Looking at the violence in Rio and Sao Paulo in the favella's, the murder rates are VERY high but the vast majority of the murders are of/between gang members. They show interviews of normal citizens and they even say that they aren't too scared as long as they aren't affiliated with a gang.

I hate to say this but it really does sound like they use talking points from US news to support their claims for refugee status.

Also the MSM seems to think that MS-13 isn't really much of a problem but from what we hear from these last 2-3 caravan's is that they are supposedly fleeing their country exactly because of this issue. So these people are either such animals and so barbaric that they are forcing people to leave their COUNTRY not just relocate to another region of their country. So what is is liberal media, is MS13 a major problem? If not, then these people are fleeing under false pretenses.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Well of course they do. When someone gets through border patrol they immediately get on the net and tell others what to say. Migrants have been caught with scripts they printed out on what to say. Now is it someone organizing this i doubt it but people do post what they said to be released.

What im curious about is how did Trump get Mexico to agree to detain any migrants caught in their country. That's a big move that no one seems to have reported other than casually mentioning it.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 12:44 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

If you think Mexico is just now enforcing it's own immigration laws, you might have bought some propaganda.


Mexico deported 25,069 Central Americans in January and February this year, almost double the number in the same period last year, new Mexican government data show. Of these deportees, 3,289 were minors.


Mexico nearly doubles deportations of US-bound migrants - from 2013

And


The first leg of their passage through Guatemala was relatively uneventful. The trouble started as soon as they crossed the picturesque River Suchiate into Mexico. The country's authorities detained and deported almost 170,000 Central American migrants from July 2014 to July 2015 - double the number from the previous year.


Salvadorans flee danger, but find more of it in Mexico - from 2015

Nothing new, unless you listen to the idiots on the idiot box.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 01:27 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

They're desperate. Do you think a walk like that with all your belongings in a bag is fun?
They must be hungry, thirsty and are fighting for their life.

You really think they are walking all that way? do the math and then answer.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 01:31 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Well of course they do. When someone gets through border patrol they immediately get on the net and tell others what to say. Migrants have been caught with scripts they printed out on what to say. Now is it someone organizing this i doubt it but people do post what they said to be released.

What im curious about is how did Trump get Mexico to agree to detain any migrants caught in their country. That's a big move that no one seems to have reported other than casually mentioning it.


Well if that is the case I wonder if they are doing something like a "brute force" password attack which takes random words from a dictionary and puts them together to try to gain access to a system. In this case, they give people different "scripts" each a little different and then they see which ones get through, then they change the script for the ones behind them to match those that got through (or a similar approximation - I wouldn't doubt that it most of the stories are identical).

The problem with this is that the media is easily fooled because they hear the same story from everyone who gets through, those with the "working password/script" so they think "this must be how it is down there, all these people CAN'T be lying!" duuhhhhh.



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