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Democrat Leaders Are Not Denouncing Violence Against Republicans, BECAUSE....

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posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 07:56 AM
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a reply to: intrepid

not to mention, the "stupid crap" that pelosi just said really isn't that stupid, all they have to do is actually listen to more than just a half a minute of the interview to know this.

but, it's the left that is the crafters of fake news!!! lol... this is really getting quite sickening!




posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: dawnstar


nope the "you're either with us or against us" bit was said right here on ats threads, to ats members.
and nope, you're own president just called the liberals mentally ill...
www.nbcnews.com...


Don't try to change your argument now... You claimed former POTUS Bush said that and that it was aimed at the left... But when you are caught lying, and making s#it up, instead of admitting your mistake you keep on making more s#it up...

The party which has been calling for violence is the democrats/liberals.

As for Pelosi's statement, "collateral damage" being taken out of context?... It wasn't taken out of context...

How many liberal/democrat morons like Madonna, De Niro, Fonda, etc alongside Hillary, Pelosi, Waters etc have been calling for your group to resort to violence against the right, against the sitting POTUS and his family?...

As for "protestors trying to get their representatives to hear them"? If you are talking about Kavanaugh, there is NOT ONE iota of evidence corroborating the fake claims from Ford... Instead all the evidence shows she is a liar, and a manipulator who among other people are making up lies to put an innocent man in jail and destroy his reputation simply because he is not a liberal/democrat... Similar to what happened to Gen. Flynn, Carter page, etc...

Your side is not in the right. Your side is criminalizing people based on political differences, and you have all thrown out the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" when the political affiliation of that person does not match your own...

I can tell you this much. There are millions of people who like me lived the s#ithole that you leftists dream about every day, and you won't catch us again trapped in such a s#ithole simply because you/the left are too arrogant to admit your policies and ideas do not help anyone, but instead turn nations into dictatorships. It won't happen here, and it won't happen again, at least not for long and you can be certain of that.




edit on 20-10-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 10:14 AM
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Because these POS criminal leftists are hell bound to create a civil war. They will stop at nothing to get their objectives. They want to plunge our country into a leftist nightmare, impose socialism on our country, raise our taxes even more, turn us into a failed State like Venezuela and outlaw the Constitution while legalizing illegal border crossers

Dems have got to go



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: dawnstar

Because the liberals are mostly mentally ill. Beyond unhinged. Beyond insane. Look at the goofy # they say/do. Look at their support of socialism/communism. Look at their hatred of the Constitution, their hatred of the Flag, and their hatred of America.

And Pelosi is just a low-IQ, low-information, very stupid, very small communist skeleton (She looks very bony, yuck)
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posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 11:22 AM
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Its simply good vs evil. I'm just glad the majority of police and military are on the constitution/America's (God's) side instead of the antI-constitution/anti-American (Devil's) side. We have most of the guns, so we're ok. You leftists better think twice before you continue to attack our country. If you're against America & everything she stands for: right to own/carry guns, which shall not be infringed; right to due-process; electoral college; privacy/property rights & everything else in the constitution, as well as, our Declaration of Independence, including life (anti-abortion), Liberty (freedom from an large overreaching government) & the pursuit of happiness (less restrictions/regulations & government meddling), then why are you here?



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse
I think you need to go back and reread that post of mine!! don't see where I mentioned bush in connection to the phrase "you are either with us or against us" ... yes, bush said it first, but then his followers brought it into the conversations here on ats and were directing it towards any liberals that happened to speak out.

all you have to do is go to the link that I posted and listen for yourself and you will know it was taken out of context. you just won't do that because it will prove that you are wrong!!! which leads me to wonder, how many other politicians quotes yous are taken out of context... I know there are a few more, since I do happen to have a habit of looking for the original source and seeing for myself!!! as far as the Madonnas and such in the world... sorry, don't really care much what they say but I do remember that there was one think his name was ted nugent that was saying some pretty weird stuff about hillary during the campaign... something about eating his gun barrel or the like...

and as far as your innocent till proven guilty bit when it comes to promotions and career opportunities....
um... since when was that the gold standard when it comes to the job market. and do you really thing
k that it's only false rape and sexual misconduct allegations that can blow apart a person's career or destroy lives? heck I bet you're all for drug testing pregnant women, even if some of those tests come back false positive and women end up loosing their kids and being put in in jail because of it!!!



and no, I wasn't talking about kavanaugh he was just the latest of a whole lineup of screw yours, we don't cares coming from our "representatives" thus the mention of cardboard cutouts at the fake town halls because their representatives just couldn't make themselves available to the people they represented.

and, you bit about the dictatorships is rather quite laughable considering everything!!!



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

So it should be so easy for you to source Pelosi and others denouncing this violence and demanding it stop .. right?



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04
correct me I am wrong, but didn't trump just call a candidate that body slamed a journalist his kind of guy a night or two ago???


yep, believe he did!!!

do your own research, or just keep on blathering the russian generated fake news, whatever you desire.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

No means no right? When someone says stop bothering me you should respect it. The Republican did not go out and search for a reporter, the reporter was hounding him and refused to listen to multiple requests to be left alone.

You equating that to seeking out and attacking someone for political views is disgusting.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 01:42 PM
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I'm not equating the two, but well, since when is a journalist doing their job, asking questions justification for physical assault?? and since when is it not in a politician's job description to answer questions by the media?
and just what are you referring to when you talk about people seeking out and attacking people that aren't holding their political views??


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posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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Asked and answered. It's harassment. Their harassment of this administration is particularly harsh. Politicians answer to the people, not the media.

The Guardian is a UK newspaper, since when does a US politician answer to the British news?

I am talking about Democrats actively seeking out Republican politicians to harass and attack them, such as the one who was recently concussed in an assault, which no one on the Democrat side has denounced as wrong that I can see.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 05:04 PM
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Asked and answered. It's harassment. Their harassment of this administration is particularly harsh. Politicians answer to the people, not the media.

The Guardian is a UK newspaper, since when does a US politician answer to the British news?


since when has it been acceptable for our elected politicians to body slam anyone, media or not, from this country or another? and as far as the media's harassment of this administration, ummm.....
it's not really like yous treated the obama administration that kindly now is it? michelle the ape, the kids are adopted, blah, blah, blah...
but since you feel that it's okay to just physically assault someone for bugging you and not leaving you alone, maybe someone should stand outside those family planning clinics when the protesters gather there just to body slam a few when they are asked to just leave people alone! or hey, I know, I will call up the democratic and republican offices and ask them to leave me alone, just don't call me... and when they fail to do this, I will just show up at the offending parties office and beat them over the head a few times with my cane!!
who knows maybe that is what set off whoever knocked the block off your republican?
in case you haven't gotten my drift yet, and I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't..
it's the politicians that write the laws that allow the telemarketers and political wackos, and the please give us the money you don't have that quite frankly, I see as harassment, so much so, i ignore my phone calls... just let the danged thing ring unless i recognize the number as being one of my sons. lol... most don't leave a message even!
and, it's the politicians that have been steadily adding fuel to this fire that is causing people to act like jackarses in restaurants, airports, stores, public parks, and just about everywhere else. they don't see a problem when their goons go out and harass people they find worthy of harassing! heck, they really didn't see much of a problem when the goons all got together and had a mini war that resulting in people getting run over, with one dead!
they just carry on, adding fuel to the fire. so to be honest, I have about as much sympathy for them if they are finding their lives affected a tad from the crap they they've spewed from their mouths as has been shown to those who've been affected by their goons out in public life! personally, I kind of like seeing them get chased through the halls of congress being yelled at.. and at this moment, it doesn't really matter weather they are dems or republicans! not saying that anyone should physically hurt any of them, but ya, get in their face, annoy them in restaurants, in the airports, where ever! some us "we the people" have been putting up with death threats, have had to move from place to place city to city, have been verbally accousted in public places, heck sometimes physically assaulted because of the political hyperbole that is originating for the top of these political parties and their minions for years now! maybe if they start feeling the heat some, they will turn down their rhetoric!



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 06:21 PM
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Paragraphs, grammar, cohesive sentence structure are your friends...just saying...



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 06:42 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
I think you need to go back and reread that post of mine!! don't see where I mentioned bush in connection to the phrase "you are either with us or against us" ... yes, bush said it first, but then his followers brought it into the conversations here on ats and were directing it towards any liberals that happened to speak out.


wow...ok...let's look at your argument again...


originally posted by: dawnstar

newsflash... the right has been saying the left was mentally ill much longer than anyone has been calling those on right as being crazy!!! and, by the way, maybe no one would be calling for trump to be evaluated if he'd just stop acting so nutty!!!
remember, there was a bush as president before there was an obama... can you remember what was being said then? I do...
phrases like "you're either with us or you're against us", and anyone who dared to speak out against the great republicans were made out to be the "enemy"...


You linked in the above statement Bush with that phrase, and you made it look like it was aimed at the left when it was aimed at nations, and as I proved even the left were making that same argument. Even Hillary used that phrase, but instead you keep on trying to make it into something it wasn't to imply that what your side is doing now is okay. That statement/claim was made by you, unless you want to claim the Chinese hacked your account...


originally posted by: dawnstar
and, as far as the idea of free speech, well, that's kind of funny. on a different thread, there's whines about those white separatists that have been seen committing violent acts being doxed, oh, the horror!! that type of free speech just shouldn't be allowed!!


Doxxing people is not free speech... That first, second, the left have been doxxing Republican/conservative Senators/representatives but like always you try to claim that the only people the left are doxxing are 'right-wing extremists" when that is not true...



originally posted by: dawnstar
but when it comes to those right wing talking heads like alex jones and a few others, heck they should have the freedom of speech and be allowed to lie about the victims of school shootings making up stories that they're all paid actors, heck, let them rile up the masses, and it's perfectly fine to publish and republish the names of their family members, along with their current addresses so they can be harassed year after year, forced to move from one location to the next!! and that far surpasses anything that the left has done!


How the heck do you know those claims are lies?... The Obama administration was caught arming the Mexican drug cartels to then blame the second amendment and the "U.S. lax gun laws" when "Fast and Furious" was an operation to arm dangerous Mexican cartels to try to disarm the U.S. yet again...



By Sharyl Attkisson CBS News December 7, 2011, 7:20 PM

Documents: ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations

Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation "Fast and Furious" to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.
PICTURES: ATF "Gunwalking" scandal timeline

In Fast and Furious, ATF secretly encouraged gun dealers to sell to suspected traffickers for Mexican drug cartels to go after the "big fish." But ATF whistleblowers told CBS News and Congress it was a dangerous practice called "gunwalking," and it put thousands of weapons on the street. Many were used in violent crimes in Mexico. Two were found at the murder scene of a U.S. Border Patrol agent.
...
The Gun Dealers' Quandary

Several gun dealers who cooperated with ATF told CBS News and Congressional investigators they only went through with suspicious sales because ATF asked them to.

Sometimes it was against the gun dealer's own best judgment.

www.cbsnews.com...

A couple of FBI agents, and even border patrol agents testified in front of Congress about the things the Obama administration were doing to allow criminals from Mexico, and south of the border to enter the U.S. to cause chaos. The Obama administration released at least 167,000 hardened illegal criminals as his administration kept on trying to blame our laws for these crimes. Obama also ordered for police, and our DOJ to change reports and to never mention "radical Islam" when radical Muslims would commit crimes, but to instead blame it on "religion in general..."


originally posted by: dawnstar
all you have to do is go to the link that I posted and listen for yourself and you will know it was taken out of context. you just won't do that because it will prove that you are wrong!!! which leads me to wonder, how many other politicians quotes yous are taken out of context... I know there are a few more, since I do happen to have a habit of looking for the original source and seeing for myself!!! as far as the Madonnas and such in the world... sorry, don't really care much what they say but I do remember that there was one think his name was ted nugent that was saying some pretty weird stuff about hillary during the campaign... something about eating his gun barrel or the like...


Now you are assuming I have not heard her argument... I actually have heard it, and it won't change the fact that her argument is linked to what other Senators/representatives and left-wingers with power, like Hillary, have been advocating... next you are going to claim that Hillary's statement on "we cannot be civil with the right" is not a call to "uncivil behaviour..."

As for Ted Nugent and his statements... First of all, he told Obama "suck on this" as he was holding some firearm... In case you don't understand the innuendo, he was referring to the attempts by the Obama administration to blame our second amendment to try to force gun control laws... He also said something similar about Hillary, which i won't repeat, and it had to do with sex and his firearms... This is similar to the statement "you can take them from my cold dead fingers" but Nugent used more vulgar statements. Even if I disagree with the way he said it, these are not threats to commit violence, but rather using offensive language to people who want to implement gun control in the U.S...

Let's see if you understand it this way...

We have two people arguing.

Person 1 says: "I am going to beat the crap out of you and take your things"

Person 2 says: "yeah? go ahead and try it"

Who is threatening with violence and who is using a defensive argument?...

Person 1 is the one throwing threats, and person two is saying "if you try to attack me, & take my stuff, I will defend myself."

Person 1 these days is mostly the left, and sorry but a few "white nationalists" doesn't equal to everyone on the right...
Person 2 is the conservatives/those of us who lean to the right in politics.

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posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 07:29 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
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and as far as your innocent till proven guilty bit when it comes to promotions and career opportunities....
um... since when was that the gold standard when it comes to the job market.


Being falsely accused of rape, and gang rape is not about "career opportunities..." Such false claims can haunt a person for life, and yes they can be used to deny people of career opportunities... Not to mention the FACT that Kavanaugh and his family, including his little girls, have received death threats from left-wingers over claims that are no corroborated by any witness mentioned by Ford. Not even her friend Leland corroborated Ford's claims... Instead Ford attacked her own friend, and for this Leland pointed out the tactics being used by the allies of Ford who had been pressuring Leland to change her story to corroborate Ford's false claims...


originally posted by: dawnstar
and do you really thing k that it's only false rape and sexual misconduct allegations that can blow apart a person's career or destroy lives? heck I bet you're all for drug testing pregnant women, even if some of those tests come back false positive and women end up loosing their kids and being put in in jail because of it!!!


...What...in...the...world...are...you...talking...about... ???




originally posted by: dawnstar
and no, I wasn't talking about kavanaugh he was just the latest of a whole lineup of screw yours, we don't cares coming from our "representatives" thus the mention of cardboard cutouts at the fake town halls because their representatives just couldn't make themselves available to the people they represented.


In case you didn't know there are people living in the U.S. who do not agree with your views... So your claim that "people are not being represented" is an asinine argument... Obama confirmed 2 Liberals to supreme court...Why is it not okay for Trump to confirm two conservatives to supreme court?... because you say so?... Who is trying to be authoritarian yet again?... You only want YOUR SIDE represented...


originally posted by: dawnstar
and, you bit about the dictatorships is rather quite laughable considering everything!!!


Could you elaborate on what you are talking about?...
Last i checked, it is the left who are suppressing people's voices for being conservative/leaning to the right in politics...
Last i checked it is the left who keep on trying to criminalize "political opposition to the left."
Last i checked it was the Obama administration who used the IRS to target conservative groups... The liberal in charge of that operation even demanded for the facts of her case to be buried because she feared for her life and her family's life if people were to learn the truth about what she did... You have got to wonder what evidence was there that would have made her say these things...
Last I checked Obama took journalists to court for not giving up their sources...
last I checked obama himself stated he would shut down conservative radio stations...
Last i checked it was the obama administration who published reports labeling half, or more of the poppulation of the U.S. as "possible extremists" for leaning to the right in politics...

All of the above, and a lot more are what dictatorships do...and to this day it is the left who keep pushing for the same thing Obama did to continue occurring...




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posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 07:50 PM
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Oh and btw... i find it ironic that you want to believe Ford, yet you don't want to believe her friend Leland, or what the other witnesses said... Yet the left have been attacking the former girlfriend of Keith Ellison, even when she went to the police and there are police reports. She has photos of the bruises caused by the violent Keith Ellison, and even her son is a witness and pointed out how Ellison has attacked his mother... What did your party do?... Hire a pro-Clinton democrat lawyer to defend Ellison and make him a victim instead of the woman he abused... What has the left done about this?... NOTHING...

About the claims from the left in which your side attacks Republicans saying "so you don't believe victims and you don't care for them?" It doesn't matter to these LEFT-WING women that Ford's claims are not corroborated... But last i checked NOT ONE of these "left-wing women" complained when Obama and his administration have forced women and little girls to share their bathrooms and locker rooms with biological males... It doesn't matter to the left that MILLIONS of women and little girls have been raped by biological men, and that those women and little girls must be okay with men claiming to feel like women to be with them at their most private times...



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 08:17 PM
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Don't harass someone and invade their personal space. When they say leave me alone and contact soandso then do it. Being a member of the press is not a license to harass someone.

No means no, right?

Now please tell me who in the Democrat party is denouncing violence against Republicans? When the GOP guy running for office was concussed which D publicly came out against it?
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posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 11:33 AM
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Political violence of all stripes is an abomination.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 12:00 PM
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Yet only one party denounces it.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 01:20 PM
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Both parties are acting like #s, either because they've been usurped by political extremists, or their big money they are beholden to is demanding they work harder to appease the Country's Real Masters.
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