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Who is paying? Footage in Honduras of women and children being paid cash to join caravan to the US

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posted on Oct, 18 2018 @ 09:14 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: theantediluvian

"First" caravan was 1600 'from the starting line'.

From Honduras too.

The place Obama & Hillary helped over-throw the government there in 2009 assisting an corrupt drug runner crony type to take power. Thus further destabilizing the place setting the stage for it to be ground zero to launch these caravans from against their political enem(ies).


Meanwhile Obama and his administration closed the last legal policy that allowed Cubans to escape the socialist economy and communist regime of the island... As a majority Cubans vote Republican because we lived through a socialist economy, and a communist dictatorship for over 59 years. Most Cubans don't believe any more the claims from socialists/communists. But these people from Mexico, Honduras, etc, etc, as a majority keep on voting left-wing.

That's the only reason democrats/liberals/socialists/communists in the U.S. are fighting for these illegals. They give power to the left, and the left turns countries into s#itholes...

edit on 18-10-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.




posted on Oct, 18 2018 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Koch Brothers >? Hmm....



posted on Oct, 18 2018 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: highvein

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: highvein

Yeah.

Who ever is paying for the trucks & fuel, that's the Big Story.

The first big highly reported caravan ordeal, earlier this year, Buzzfeed et al was embedded in the caravan. The story I browsed had the name of the primary group that organized it. Imagine its the same one here. Not hard to imagine this is all part of the #RESISTANCE. The kind of money that flows around politics these days, laden with the ilk of Soros et al, funding one of these caravans is chump change.


It also wouldn't surprise me if Trump did it. He does use progressive tactics sometimes. He could use this to energize his base, but all of this is speculation.


I thought about that angle as well. Would be a interesting move. I dont think he would do this though....too much to lose if it came back on him.


Good point. Or it does have a probability to be a false flag. Worth keep up with in any case.

edit on 18-10-2018 by highvein because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 18 2018 @ 09:28 PM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Yet look at what all those left-wing/Liberal/socialist policies dominating countries like Honduras are going through... The left in the U.S. will never give up until the U.S. is turned into one of these "liberal/socialist" countries from which people are trying to escape...


Since the United States' supported military juntas were replaced with actual elections in 1982 the center right party has had the Presidency for 20 years versus 16 for the left-leaning party in Honduras.



posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 08:22 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: rollanotherone

on the GOP school playground?

At least the GOP goes to school. Your Masters are uneducated morons



posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: loam

This is how the enemy attacks

They know they cannot damage the u.s. with a traditional army.

They fund these groups to overwhelm the system.

This is a coordinated and funded attack.

When America cannot enter a country with an army, they start by funding anti government groups to weaken the country.

This is what Americans enemy is doing.



posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

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a reply to: loam


I finally found an article which stated why they were fleeing:


The first wave of the migrants — as many as 3,000 people fleeing poverty and violence in the Central American country — arrived in the Guatemalan border town of Tecun Uman early Thursday, with the rest trickling in amid downpours later in the day.


Migrant caravan heading for US clashes with police in Mexico

Here are some hard numbers:


Since 2010, Honduras has had one of the highest murder rates in the world. The National Violence Observatory (NVO), an academic research institution based out of Honduras’ National Public University, reported the following murder rates over the past six years:

86.5 per 100,000 people 2011

85.5 per 100,000 people 2012

79.0 per 100,000 people 2013

66.4 per 100,000 people 2014

60.0 per 100,000 people 2015

59.0 per 100,000 people 2016

Not available at printing time 2017



What might be the cause of this?


In a country of approximately eight million people, there are estimated 7,000-10,000 street gang members. The 18th Street and MS-13 ("Mara Salvatrucha") gangs are the most active and powerful. Gangs are not reluctant to use violence and specialize in murder-for-hire, carjacking, extortion, and other violent street crime. They are also known to control some of the taxi services. Violent transnational criminal organizations also conduct narcotics trafficking and other illicit commerce.


Honduras 2018 Crime & Safety Report

I wonder if any of the aforementioned "transnational criminal organizations" have ties to black budget intelligence agency ops?



posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Vasa Croe

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a reply to: loam


I finally found an article which stated why they were fleeing:


The first wave of the migrants — as many as 3,000 people fleeing poverty and violence in the Central American country — arrived in the Guatemalan border town of Tecun Uman early Thursday, with the rest trickling in amid downpours later in the day.


Migrant caravan heading for US clashes with police in Mexico

Here are some hard numbers:


Since 2010, Honduras has had one of the highest murder rates in the world. The National Violence Observatory (NVO), an academic research institution based out of Honduras’ National Public University, reported the following murder rates over the past six years:

86.5 per 100,000 people 2011

85.5 per 100,000 people 2012

79.0 per 100,000 people 2013

66.4 per 100,000 people 2014

60.0 per 100,000 people 2015

59.0 per 100,000 people 2016

Not available at printing time 2017



What might be the cause of this?


In a country of approximately eight million people, there are estimated 7,000-10,000 street gang members. The 18th Street and MS-13 ("Mara Salvatrucha") gangs are the most active and powerful. Gangs are not reluctant to use violence and specialize in murder-for-hire, carjacking, extortion, and other violent street crime. They are also known to control some of the taxi services. Violent transnational criminal organizations also conduct narcotics trafficking and other illicit commerce.


Honduras 2018 Crime & Safety Report

I wonder if any of the aforementioned "transnational criminal organizations" have ties to black budget intelligence agency ops?


Interesting....I find it rather odd the murder rate is coming down each year. Makes me wonder if the gang members and murderers are the ones actually immigrating to other countries.

So 3000 of the caravan are from Honduras? They have had US news coverage since the beginning. I'd say it is all political and I am sure there are black budget agencies involved.



posted on Oct, 19 2018 @ 07:16 PM
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By contrast this is the US by city for the year 2015:



Wikipedia

Looks like we've got a few cities that are not far off Honduras' numbers in the same time period. Hell, our nation's capital is nearly halfway there.

Mexico is dealing with the migrant caravan thusly:


TECUN UMAN, Guatemala — Migrants traveling in a mass caravan burst through a Guatemalan border fence and streamed by the thousands toward Mexican territory on Friday, defying Mexican authorities’ entreaties for an orderly crossing and U.S. President Donald Trump’s threats of retaliation.

On the Mexican side of a border bridge, they were met by a phalanx of police with riot shields. About 50 managed to push their way through before officers unleashed pepper spray and the rest retreated.


Caravan migrants break through fence at Guatemala border

Note how they take a dig at president Trump at the end of the first paragraph. They (it's PBS, btw) just can't help themselves.

There is talk again of poverty being one of the motivating factors but the greatest majority of what people (in the article) are saying is that it has more to do with gang violence. The article states that around 30% of the caravan plans on seeking asylum in Mexico but that the remainder are intent upon reaching the United States. So some quick back of the envelope calculations (hey there Silverlok wherever you are) gives us around 2100-2800 people intent upon reaching the border and entering the country regardless of procedures in place.

You know, gang violence sucks big ol' donkey balls. It really does. And I'm fair certain that a lot of the related ugliness that takes place in Central America is a result (directly or indirectly) of U.S. foreign policy and intelligence agency cock ups to a large degree if not exclusively and so in a very real way all of these people are our chicks coming home to roost but as the numbers show on Wikipedia, we've got plenty of issues at home that need addressing such as the aforementioned foreign policy and intelligence agency BS.

I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around the number of flags being flown if these folks think that their country's leaders are doing such a piss poor job of handling the gang issue that the feel they need to walk all that distance:



Some 2300ish km and 469 hours of walking; 10-12 hours per day of walking puts that at around 40 days.

And I don't know about you, but after walking a for more than a little bit, I start looking a little bedraggled, but what do I know?

I'm just some loon on a conspiracy board.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 12:53 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Since the United States' supported military juntas were replaced with actual elections in 1982 the center right party has had the Presidency for 20 years versus 16 for the left-leaning party in Honduras.


And the right in Venezuela had power for many years and there was prosperity in Venezuela. But it was when the left took control that Venezuela turned into a s#ithole... Same for Honduras. To this day the "Liberal party" in Honduras has power, and it is because of their left-wing policies that Honduras has become yet another s#ithole.
edit on 20-10-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.



posted on Oct, 20 2018 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
And the right in Venezuela had power for many years and there was prosperity in Venezuela.


Who cares about Venezuela in a conversation about Honduras and Guatemala? They're not even on the same damn continent.


To this day the "Liberal party" in Honduras has power...


Nice of you to ignore the fact that the center right party has held power more frequently than them.



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 04:10 PM
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Yep i saw this on aplanetruths youtube moments ago, so is this migrant caravan are george soros op?
Also does this seem similiar to the syrian refugee crisis from 2015?



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical



Some 2300ish km and 469 hours of walking; 10-12 hours per day of walking puts that at around 40 days.


So that's 40 Days in the Wilderness, eh?

Honduras by a couple key metrics is sort of like the New World's version of Israel.


edit on 22-10-2018 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

There is video of them being loaded into trucks and buses,



posted on Oct, 22 2018 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

There is video of them being loaded into trucks and buses,





Can you provide a linky...?



posted on Oct, 23 2018 @ 04:41 PM
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youtu.be...




these caravans don’t walk from Honduras to the United States they only walk for photo ops. The reality is Globalist bankers and activists ship them in trucks and busses.
edit on 23-10-2018 by Stormdancer777 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 23 2018 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: loam
twitter.com...



I hope they figure this out.

Obviously, Soros comes to mind. But the money could be coming from elsewhere.



Yea because Soros would totally help Republicans




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