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Who is paying? Footage in Honduras of women and children being paid cash to join caravan to the US

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posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:40 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian




Wtf is stupid enough to believe that women and children in Honduras would join a caravan and travel 1600 miles to storm the US border for $20?



Yes. How stupid to believe that the these people would take $20.00 to come to the U.S., when other of the citizens have to pay to come to America.
Your logic is flawed in that Statement.




posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:42 PM
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The caravan now has 4,000 people?!?!

Source: twitter.com...



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
The caravan now has 4,000 people?!?!

Source: twitter.com...


I highly doubt this to be true but time will tell I guess.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:45 PM
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I think its a paid by people from the left..........

They will do ANYTHING to try and make Trump look bad before the elections......

Especially since Kavenaugh didnt work.........

So......pay to organize and flood the border again so they can bitch about children being separated from families



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou

It's 1,600 miles from the Honduras border to the US border. Nobody would make that trek, let alone "storm the US border" at the end of it, for any amount that could be depicted exchanging hands there.

How can anyone believe that's a plausible scenario for what's in that video?



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:49 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Allaroundyou

It's 1,600 miles from the Honduras border to the US border. Nobody would make that trek, let alone "storm the US border" at the end of it, for any amount that could be depicted exchanging hands there.

How can anyone believe that's a plausible scenario for what's in that video?



Dude your preaching to the choir. I think this whole thing is stupid. But ya know, people like to blow things out of proportion these days.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian


The Dutch bought Manhattan for nearly the same amount, if they pool their money they could put in a bid for it.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
I think its a paid by people from the left..........

They will do ANYTHING to try and make Trump look bad before the elections......

Especially since Kavenaugh didnt work.........

So......pay to organize and flood the border again so they can bitch about children being separated from families



I was thinking more along the lines of The Clinton Foundation. They are global.
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posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:52 PM
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It is/was obvious some group was pushing this.

You dont get thousands of Hondurans marching to the US that get news coverage without someone organizing it.

It is a given that this is a stunt by GOP opposition.

This is their next ploy since Ford didnt work....



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:58 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: loam


Wtf is stupid enough to believe that women and children in Honduras would join a caravan and travel 1600 miles to storm the US border for $20? Oh, Matt Gaetz is:


Rep. Matt Gaetz Verified account @RepMattGaetz

BREAKING: Footage in Honduras giving cash 2 women & children 2 join the caravan & storm the US border @ election time. Soros? US-backed NGOs? Time to investigate the source!

2:36 PM - 17 Oct 2018


Jesus.


LOL....so thousands of Hondurands just decided to go for the border of the US?

Folks that are supposedly always under threat of death and their regimes are super oppressive....somehow are able to know that they should come to the US "en masse"?

LOL...the real question is who is stupid enough to believe the BS stories about immigration in the hundreds of thousands per year....

Big money in that immigration stuff...




posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:59 PM
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The DNC is behind the whole thing.

It's a campaign "golden goose" but only among Democrats.

Republicans and most Independents won't take the minnows.

😃



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: Allaroundyou

originally posted by: carewemust
The caravan now has 4,000 people?!?!

Source: twitter.com...


I highly doubt this to be true but time will tell I guess.


The new Mexican President SAYS he is a Trump/U.S. AMIGO. He should prove it now.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 10:01 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

WTF aren't the Democrat leaders heading down there to escort them up here? Maybe take CNN along.. spray a lot of onion juice around so everyone cries for the cameras.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Allaroundyou

originally posted by: carewemust
The caravan now has 4,000 people?!?!

Source: twitter.com...


I highly doubt this to be true but time will tell I guess.


The new Mexican President SAYS he is a Trump/U.S. AMIGO. He should prove it now.


I have no doubt Mexico will stop them and take the blame so the dems have no place to go trying to pin it on Trump.

Should be funny actually.

I'd bet most of these folks will even talk about how they were coerced into this March.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 10:08 PM
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Ah. 'Crum Theory'. I forgot you guys have that.

The World Bank places nearly 2/3 of Hondurans living in poverty. Daily earnings estimates are between $1.90-$3.80 per day....and that's assuming you earn anything at all.

I wonder how many people would line up for a week to a month worth of wages to 'migrate' in relative safety to the US?
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posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 10:13 PM
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a reply to: highvein


Yes. How stupid to believe that the these people would take $20.00 to come to the U.S., when other of the citizens have to pay to come to America. Your logic is flawed in that Statement.


No. It's not.

So you at least acknowledge that it's utterly preposterous to believe that $20 would be sufficient motivation to get anyone to travel 1,600 miles, let alone through some of the more dangerous country in the world, let alone women, mothers with young children, etc?

But then you think that people who are willing to risk life and limb, risk being sexually assaulted, risk being kidnapped and forced into sexual slavery — and often pay unsavory people money to take all those risks — would be in any way additionally motivated be $20?

Do you imagine that anyone is just hanging out in Honduras, weighing their options. Going over the pros and cons. Thinking, "Wwwwwweeelllll... I could go to storm the US border. But you know, 1,600 miles is kinda far. There's all those corrupt officials along the way. The human traffickers and the bands of rapey gangs. I just don't know. Really on the fence here."

And then somebody's like, "Hey, would twenty bucks help you make that decision? I've also got a TCBY card with three punches and a buy one get one free coupon for Marie Callender's pot pie!"

Come on.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 10:18 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: highvein


So you at least acknowledge that it's utterly preposterous to believe that $20 would be sufficient motivation to get anyone to travel 1,600 miles, let alone through some of the more dangerous country in the world, let alone women, mothers with young children, etc?



What are you talking about? Most illegal immigrants come here for free.

Moreover, this particular opportunity is nothing like what you describe, when there is safety in numbers and international media is documenting your every step.
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posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Allaroundyou

originally posted by: carewemust
The caravan now has 4,000 people?!?!

Source: twitter.com...


I highly doubt this to be true but time will tell I guess.


The new Mexican President SAYS he is a Trump/U.S. AMIGO. He should prove it now.


I guess we shall see. But I do have my doubts.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 10:36 PM
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The World Bank places nearly 2/3 of Hondurans living in poverty. Daily earnings estimates are between $1.90-$3.80 per day....and that's assuming you earn anything at all.


The poorest person on this planet would not hike 1,600 through crime filled countryside for $20. And that's assuming that it's even $20. $20 is the USD value of the largest denomination of Honduran money. It's quite possibly far less.


I wonder how many people would line up for a week to a month worth of wages to 'migrate' in relative safety to the US?


This is what you aren't getting. It's like thinking that anyone would travel from Detroit to DC to protest for $35. You couldn't pay most people to protest next door for an hour for $35. It would cost three times that in gas make the drive. Hell, even if you rode a bike, you'd spend more money on food to replenish the calories to pedal that far.

And yet, that's an easy one to swallow apparently for some. I thought that was bad.

Women are not dragging their kids through 1,600 miles of bandit ridden countryside, where they risk being sexually assaulted, forced into sex work, robbed, murdered or dying from any number of things, to get to the US border, where they run a good chance of being turned around or thrown into a camp — motivated by a day's or week's salary.

There are people who will do it because they're motivated by desperation, a fear greater than their fear of the risks undertaken in the journey and an intense desire for a better life and there are people who are not. There are no people who are doing that # for $20.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 10:38 PM
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So you at least acknowledge that it's utterly preposterous to believe that $20 would be sufficient motivation to get anyone to travel 1,600 miles, let alone through some of the more dangerous country in the world, let alone women, mothers with young children, etc?



They do it all the time while having to pay to do it. What makes it proposterous that they would do it while gaining 20 bucks?




But then you think that people who are willing to risk life and limb, risk being sexually assaulted, risk being kidnapped and forced into sexual slavery — and often pay unsavory people money to take all those risks — would be in any way additionally motivated be $20?


Again. They usually pay to do it. Why not take the $20 when you do it? Free money is free money.




Do you imagine that anyone is just hanging out in Honduras, weighing their options. Going over the pros and cons. Thinking, "Wwwwwweeelllll... I could go to storm the US border. But you know, 1,600 miles is kinda far. There's all those corrupt officials along the way. The human traffickers and the bands of rapey gangs. I just don't know. Really on the fence here."



Yeah. The one's that have made the trip already, but didn't get $20 for their trouble.





And then somebody's like, "Hey, would twenty bucks help you make that decision? I've also got a TCBY card with three punches and a buy one get one free coupon for Marie Callender's pot pie!"



Marie Callender's pot pie? Now your just being silly. Nobody likes those.




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