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NEWS: Democracy Quest: Germany

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posted on Feb, 24 2005 @ 12:02 PM
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US President Bush met with Germany's Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder in Mainz on Wednesday as part of what's being called his "Democracy Quest" European "charm offensive." Following Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's visit three weeks ago, Bush's goal is to heal rifts created by the US war on Iraq. Schroeder previously had recommended NATO reforms that might shift management power of the trans-Atlantic relationship to the EU in Brussels, and Bush was hoping to forestall NATO changes. The press conference did not address major issues or known disagreements. European coverage of the meeting was more critical than upbeat American news reports.

 



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After Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's visit three weeks ago, the prevailing thinking in Berlin was that the charm offensive would not translate into policy changes. That, certainly, is one reason why Schroeder put forth his much-criticized idea regarding NATO reform, a plan that would ostensibly shift power in the managing the trans-Atlantic relationship from NATO to the EU in Brussels.

Schroeder's speech sparked a strong sense of alienation across the pond, particularly in conservative American circles. The Wall Street Journal went so far as to accuse Schroeder of seeking to sabotage Bush's trip.

...The mantra of the day was: "We have common goals." The phrase was repeated tirelessly throughout the approximately 20-minute press conference. Indeed, the two agree that Iran should not obtain nuclear weapons. Both care about what Bush called "the quality of our air." Both want Iraq to be rebuilt. And both have tough words for Syria. Bush said he "fully" understands "the limitations of the German contribution" in Iraq. Schroeder announced a mutual desire to "deepen cooperation" on questions of the environment, "irrespective of the question as to whether Kyoto is the right tool to be using or not."

The two may insist that their goals are alike, but in truth their ideas about how to achieve those goals differ greatly. And while the words they share with each other in friendly press conferences are increasingly endearing, they disagree on how to handle almost every push-button issue. Each gap provides potential fodder for future trans-Atlantic strife. The atmosphere may be good, but the fact is, after four days of "listening" in Europe, Bush has not fundamentally changed.




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European news reports about Bush's tour are different from US coverage in tone, focus and spin. It is useful and valuable to look at what's being said across the big pond. A fair bit of bitterness remains about Iraq, and few have forgotten that Bush invaded Iraq without UN sanction or ratification. Also, many Europeans are deeply concerned about Bush's expansionist military policies, as evidenced by German protestors accusing Bush of being "America's Hitler."


German Protesters Call Bush America's Hitler
Democracy Quest: Europe


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posted on Feb, 24 2005 @ 12:35 PM
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If colin powell couldn't heal the rift, the two clowns,[ bush and condoleza,] sure can't. Germany and France won't spit on them in public but Bush acn forget about any concrete help in Iraq and as far as the arms embargo goes, we showed the world haow to make money selling to questionable customers. Hell, I don't even think Halliburton has all it's employees out of Iran yet, or General Electric. What are they waiting for. Talk about hypocracy.



posted on Feb, 24 2005 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by kazi
If colin powell couldn't heal the rift, the two clowns,[ bush and condoleza,] sure can't.





Which is too bad, because our loans are coming up for re-negotiation - and we can't afford to get squeezed any more on interest rates.

As things stand, it don't look good.



We have a lot more riding on this than just another war - like the economic stability of the whole nation.







posted on Feb, 24 2005 @ 01:45 PM
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Maybe we oughta claim interest on the funds spent rebuilding and defending Europe for the last 40 years or so. Amazing how they get so independent soon after the Soviet threat is minimized.

Giving the EU control of NATO? An organization created from huge business representatives for the sole purpose of improving the economy? That'll be worse than giving the UN control of military matters-oil bribed representatives making world security policy.

Then folks here can praise the EU for doing the same things they berate America for. because it's European and therefore better, somehow.



posted on Feb, 24 2005 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by Phugedaboudet
Maybe we oughta claim interest on the funds spent rebuilding and defending Europe for the last 40 years or so.





Aww. C'mon. They've already paid through the nose.






Amazing how they get so independent soon after the Soviet threat is minimized.





What Soviet threat? That one was even bigger manufactured bs than the one about WMD's and bin Laden in Iraq. Check this out:


What the CIA's Nazi Files Can Tell Us About Iraq



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posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 09:40 AM
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posted on Feb, 25 2005 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Bourgeoisie
You forgot about the pro Bush rally in Mainz







No B - I ignored it - as not germane to the main point. Feel free to post your propaganda though.




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