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FBI raids San Juan city offices weeks after Trump alleges corruption

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posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: notsure1

Maybe just an NPC.




posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 12:46 PM
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This comes as no surprise. Anyone that followed the aftermath of Hurricane Maria.

I sure wish ATS member marg6043 would post as she has a direct line to the inside in Puerto Rico, however she hasn't even been on the site since Oct 31, 2017.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
Is Trump actually sending the FBI after his political opponents? I’m sure all you Obama-was-spying-on Trump people have something to say about that.


You do realize that it was the comptroller in the mayor's office that blew the whistle, right?

I mean, you understand that, dontcha?



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 01:39 PM
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Interesting.

How can the FBI raid a mayors office of a city that is part of a territory, that isn't even part of the USA? Not a state.

You can see the issue here. The FBI should either stay the heck out of there or they should be a state.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Puerto Rico is a US territory. The FBI has a field office there.

This bust is long past due.


WASHINGTON, D.C., October 17, 2017 -

Today, Chairman Rob Bishop (R-UT) sent a letter to Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Administrator William B. “Brock” Long and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Director Christopher Wray concerning allegations of mishandling and misappropriation of emergency supplies provided by the federal government for the people of Puerto Rico by local government officials.

On October 12, 2017, the FBI San Juan Field Office announced its inquiry into the misappropriation of FEMA supplies disseminated to Puerto Rico’s municipalities. According to an FBI Special Agent in San Juan, the complaints include allegations that, “mayors of local municipalities, or people associated with their offices, are giving their political supporters special treatment, goods they’re not giving to other people who need them.”


Chairmen Send Letters to FBI and FEMA Regarding Allegations of the Misappropriation of Hurricane Aid in Puerto Rico



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: amazing

Puerto Rico is a US territory. The FBI has a field office there.

This bust is long past due.


WASHINGTON, D.C., October 17, 2017 -

Today, Chairman Rob Bishop (R-UT) sent a letter to Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Administrator William B. “Brock” Long and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Director Christopher Wray concerning allegations of mishandling and misappropriation of emergency supplies provided by the federal government for the people of Puerto Rico by local government officials.

On October 12, 2017, the FBI San Juan Field Office announced its inquiry into the misappropriation of FEMA supplies disseminated to Puerto Rico’s municipalities. According to an FBI Special Agent in San Juan, the complaints include allegations that, “mayors of local municipalities, or people associated with their offices, are giving their political supporters special treatment, goods they’re not giving to other people who need them.”


Chairmen Send Letters to FBI and FEMA Regarding Allegations of the Misappropriation of Hurricane Aid in Puerto Rico



But you get what I'm saying. We have an FBI office there. They get no vote in anything. We police them and control them and use their island for miltary base. If they speak out against us, we punish them with the FBI.

he may be corrupt, but how is that fair.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: SocratesJohnson

Everybody knows how badly he botched aid to Puerto Rico and that he dererves the riticism he is getting and now of course he has to hit back because hes an asinine baby.

The only people that "know how badly he botched aid to Puerto Rico" are the ones immune to actual research and understanding of what all went down during that time.

The facts were spoonfed to people--I assume that includes you--in the many threads about the aftermath in PR, some are just too dense or ideologically driven to accept the realities of the issues.

But, sure, Trump is always the bad guy...the irony of calling him an asinine baby in this particular instance is palpable.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 02:21 PM
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a reply to: amazing

1. No one is punishing them for speaking out, they are being investigated for fraud as reported by the comptroller of the mayor's office.

2. This is part of the deal that PR struck with the US in order to be a territory and be able to receive things like the protection and aid and constitutional rights. As for voting, this may be of interest to you:

Can Puerto Ricans vote for U.S. president, Congress?

Not if they live in the island. Since it's not a state, Puerto Ricans in the island don't vote in U.S. presidential elections and don't vote in U.S. congressional elections, though they do vote for presidential primaries.

Puerto Ricans in the island do vote for a resident commissioner who represents the island's interests in Washington, D.C., but is not a voting member of Congress.

However, Puerto Ricans who reside in the mainland U.S. vote do vote in U.S. elections. So that's the difference — Puerto Ricans who live on the island participate in local elections, and those who live in the U.S. vote in U.S. elections.

NBC News

As for a short list of the benefits from being a US territory (per the treaty that they signed with us):

As a territory, the U.S. federal government controls all of Puerto Rico's commerce, trade, immigration and naturalization, military affairs, mail, highways, natural resources, Social Security and federal taxation and maritime law. Puerto Ricans have been and are an integral part of the U.S. military forces.

Puerto Rico chooses to have this relationship with us, and we choose to keep it up. At some point, though, something will change on one side or the other.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 02:24 PM
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a reply to: amazing

As to why Puerto Rico is not a state, there are a number of reasons and not all of them involve nefariousness on the part of Uncle Sam though there is some of that kind of thing.

Puerto Rico Is Not a State: Why Not?

^^^good article on the whys^^^



he may be corrupt, but how is that fair.


The mayor is a she.
edit on 17-10-2018 by jadedANDcynical because: Wrong closing tag



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 02:32 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
Interesting.

How can the FBI raid a mayors office of a city that is part of a territory, that isn't even part of the USA? Not a state.

You can see the issue here.


I can.

I see the issue is that you don't know a territory is part of the country...



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
Did you seriously just say a shady real estate developer from New York isn’t corrupt? The man bankrupted his own casino in Atlantic City.

Do you seriously believe that if he was corrupt - criminally corrupt - that he would even still be in office?



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
Is Trump actually sending the FBI after his political opponents? I’m sure all you Obama-was-spying-on Trump people have something to say about that.


Since we know Trump has like zero control over the FBI just how does he use them for political purposes?



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: amazing
Interesting.

How can the FBI raid a mayors office of a city that is part of a territory, that isn't even part of the USA? Not a state.

You can see the issue here.


I can.

I see the issue is that you don't know a territory is part of the country...


No, I get that. The issue is that you don't know that I know that a territory is part of the country. The real issue is that they would be better off as a state.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: amazing
Interesting.

How can the FBI raid a mayors office of a city that is part of a territory, that isn't even part of the USA? Not a state.

You can see the issue here.


I can.

I see the issue is that you don't know a territory is part of the country...


No, I get that. The issue is that you don't know that I know that a territory is part of the country. The real issue is that they would be better off as a state.

That is up to them don't you think? Maybe they should vote on it.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Good, who's next?



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 04:28 PM
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So that the poor people in Puerto Rico can pay Federal Income Taxes? I'd pass, if I were them. Just my opinion.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Lol, I've never seen someone in such a deep state of denial as you. If Trump said the ocean is made up of water, you wouldn't be able to help yourself, you'd have to reach deep into your bag of straws and say Trump is a liar because the ocean isn't full of water, it's full of salt water.
edit on 17-10-2018 by LSU2018 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: amazing
Interesting.

How can the FBI raid a mayors office of a city that is part of a territory, that isn't even part of the USA? Not a state.

You can see the issue here.


I can.

I see the issue is that you don't know a territory is part of the country...


No, I get that. The issue is that you don't know that I know that a territory is part of the country. The real issue is that they would be better off as a state.


I remember 2 past votes in the 90s and early 2000s where PR voted down the option for statehood.

Its not like we are putting a carrot on a stick for them while beating them with a newspaper. They are and choose to stay a territory by choice.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Do you not like Puerto Ricans or something? The government was investigated for not giving its people the supplies that were sent for them. It's almost as if you and SillyOlGirl would rather see PR continue to get away with effing her people all because you can't accept it when Trump does the right thing.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: Butterfinger

Amazing knows better and will decide for the people what is best for them.



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