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It's Rediculous to Deny Billions of Dollars to U.S. Families Because Saudi Arabia Killed a Person.

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posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04



We do business with many countries like this or worse.


Who is worse than Saudi Arabia?

Saudi Arabia is the worlds biggest exporter of Islamic extremism.
Saudi Arabia is the worlds biggest supporter and funder of Islamic terrorism.
Saudi Arabia has one of the world's worst records on Human Right abuses.
Saudi Arabia has one of the world's worst records on the abuse of homosexuals.
Saudi Arabia has one of the world's worst records on their (mis)treatment of women.
Saudi Arabia has one of the world's worst records on religious intolerance.

I've probably missed a few out but I'm sure you get the picture.

So again, who is worse than Saudi Arabia?




posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: norhoc
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck


Who are you trying to kid, you act like everyone used to love the U.S. and thought of us as leaders of the free world. We are in a no win with the rest of the world, when we go and do something everyone screams at us to stop meddling, when we don't do anything everyone cries "why isn't the U.S. doing anything" When we proclaim to be leaders of the free world everyone calls us imperialistic and arrogant. Now you want to call us leaders of the free world.

Notice that I used the past tense? Part of that is claiming victimhood when being held to account for the abandonment of principles. The word snowflake comes to mind.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 08:38 AM
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There is no defense for SA. If one does they are in a bad position. One that has put money before principle.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
The word snowflake comes to mind.


What the hell do you know about snow? You're from Canada...



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
The word snowflake comes to mind.

What the hell do you know about snow? You're from Canada...

I know you don't eat the yellow stuff.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: JohnnyCanuck


Like I would listen to you!



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 08:47 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
The word snowflake comes to mind.


What the hell do you know about snow? You're from Canada...


Right. The "snow" experts come from Columbia.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 08:48 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid
There is no defense for SA. If one does they are in a bad position. One that has put money before principle.


Money before Principle.

Rule #1 of the Trump Administration.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 08:51 AM
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originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: intrepid
There is no defense for SA. If one does they are in a bad position. One that has put money before principle.


Money before Principle.

Rule #1 of the Trump Administration.


As it refers to SA this is a longstanding position that predates Trump. It's just the status quo.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: angeldoll

To be fair and balanced lol




posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 08:54 AM
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Honestly, I think there should be repercussions for this because really, what is Saudi Arabia saying here? It's like the spooks suddenly are going ON THE RADAR. The Russia case in the summer now this...

Spies changed their gameplan?

Weird.




posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: angeldoll

Yes because Obama refused to trade with SA right?



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Actually, the likely reason he did not break from Saudi Arabia monetarily, is that during the eight years of his Presidency, he only had about a month to actually get anything passed through congress or the senate, because there was no majority power, except for that one month or so. That's the same reason Guantanamo Bay did not close, among a huge number of other things that did not get done that should have been. He was blocked at every turn by Republican actions, taken against his every word and potential deed, purely on the basis that he was a Democrat, and the Republican party needed to make him powerless for their own gain later on.

But even were this not the case, Obama is not President NOW, and cannot affect change NOW. Every single time you pull up a whataboutism, you ruin your own argument entirely.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:32 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

Stop lying. Obama never said a peep. Everything else you said is pure fantasy.

My post was a response to a statement saying this is a Trump thing. It's not. It's been this way for a long time.
edit on 17-10-2018 by OccamsRazor04 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit


What's the meaning of the phrase 'Don't look a gift horse in the mouth'? ???


Don't be ungrateful when you receive a gift.



Foreign leaders gave lavish gifts to a number of U.S. officials last year, including the Saudi Arabian king, who gave Hillary Clinton diamond-and-ruby-encrusted jewels worth half a million dollars. Clinton's gifts from King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz - which included a necklace, bracelet, earrings and a ring - were by far the most expensive items among the hundreds of gifts given to U.S. officials in 2012. A complete list of the gifts received last year, as well as a couple dozen from previous years, were disclosed by the State Department on Thursday.



$500K diamond-encrusted jewels, Cognac and a 41-inch saber: The lavish gifts given to President Obama, Hillary Clinton and others from foreign leaders - FLASHBACK 2013

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posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: intrepid
There is no defense for SA. If one does they are in a bad position. One that has put money before principle.


Money before Principle.

Rule #1 of the Trump Administration.


As it refers to SA this is a longstanding position that predates Trump. It's just the status quo.


Isn't it though? Oh how I wish we had a leader with the testicular courage to cut them off.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

No its not.

You can try answering these things point by point if you like.

Or you could keep bleating and whatabouting until you realise its entirely futile, and that if you keep doing it on a protracted basis, all you will get is no change for the better in terms of foreign policy.

Might be less disingenuous to simply man up and accept that your leader is a hack.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

I don't deal in fantasy.

Obama never said a peep.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 10:20 AM
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Weren't certain people rah-rahing back during Dear Leader's term when he didn't want to have the civil suits against the scumbag Saudis go through because it would hurt business and political relations and basically saying, 'Eff what Obama thinks, we need to crush them!'?

This is a rhetorical question because they did. Saudi Arabia is a disgusting nation with disgusting practices and is not our pal, buddy.



posted on Oct, 17 2018 @ 10:24 AM
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Actually, the likely reason he did not break from Saudi Arabia monetarily, is that during the eight years of his Presidency, he only had about a month to actually get anything passed through congress or the senate, because there was no majority power, except for that one month or so.

uh no
en.wikipedia.org...



the Democratic Party increased its majorities in both chambers, giving President Obama a Democratic majority in the legislature for the first two years of his presidency.

perhaps next you will tell us the moon really is made of green cheese?



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