oh Canada! The true north strong and stoned.

a reply to: Akragon

exactly, they got to regulate and tax the hell out of it initially. Id imagine it will get some fine tuning. but didnt you get the option of having like 6 plants for personal use? Cause thats got to work for loads of people. did I say I was jealous as hale lol

A good percentage will not play by the rules... ie. Black Market

a reply to: NiNjABackflip

Online ordering.

a reply to: wheresthebody

I will no longer be a criminal.

Some laws are just unjust to begin with.

a reply to: dug88
I don’t understand why it is illegal to give someone some pot you grew ? It’s not illegal to share homemade wine, etc.

Also don’t understand how other meds are considered legal to drive under the influence of , but not MM ? I personally have been on prescribed meds , years ago, that warned not to operate heavy machinery while under the influence of it. I had to drive to work, so I operated a vehicle.

The testing for illegal drugs while you are driving does not cover many narcotics subscribed by physicians with warnings attached.

Doesn’t seem like my MM is any worse than other prescribed drugs , yet it is being unfairly targeted !

originally posted by: Plotus
A good percentage will not play by the rules... ie. Black Market

Legalization pretty much eliminates the black market... How would they compete when you can get better stuff for way cheaper... it becomes almost pointless to try to sell it

This will be a good thing all around...

a reply to: Sheye

I don’t understand why it is illegal to give someone some pot you grew ? It’s not illegal to share homemade wine, etc.

It won't be... but you can't sell it to people

The gov gotta get their piece of the pie.... FFS

originally posted by: snowspirit
a reply to: NiNjABackflip

Online ordering.

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: Plotus
A good percentage will not play by the rules... ie. Black Market

Legalization pretty much eliminates the black market... How would they compete when you can get better stuff for way cheaper... it becomes almost pointless to try to sell it

This will be a good thing all around...

I ‘m not too sure about the ‘way cheaper’ claim. Throw in taxes, and it may end up on the same level. Or illegal pot dealers will put their prices down.

I’m happy it’s legalized, but I think many are in for some rude awakenings when they smoked a nice relaxing spliff the evening before getting into a morning fender bender ,due to ice. If tested, they lose so much just like an impaired. Yet, how many have a nice relaxing drink in the evening with no fear of blowing over the next morning, on the way to work.

You can’t treat this like alcohol, it stays in your system longer, and it’s extremely unfair to put both in the same category.

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Sheye

I don’t understand why it is illegal to give someone some pot you grew ? It’s not illegal to share homemade wine, etc.

It won't be... but you can't sell it to people

The gov gotta get their piece of the pie.... FFS

Yes it will be. The only weed you are legally allowed to possess is weed from the government. Technically if you read the actual laws, admitting you're carrying your own weed you grew will be illegal.

originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Sheye

I don’t understand why it is illegal to give someone some pot you grew ? It’s not illegal to share homemade wine, etc.

It won't be... but you can't sell it to people

The gov gotta get their piece of the pie.... FFS

Yes it will be. The only weed you are legally allowed to possess is weed from the government. Technically if you read the actual laws, admitting you're carrying your own weed you grew will be illegal.

That doesn't make sense... you can grow up to four plants in my province... and can legally possess up to 30g

www.ontario.ca...-5

a reply to: dug88

Sounds like Washington state's version of legalization. Still not on the upcoming ballet for recreational grow despite all other legal states allowing it.

Good then if provodences are to define growing.

It’s a good time to be alive.

a reply to: wheresthebody

originally posted by: NiNjABackflip

originally posted by: snowspirit
a reply to: NiNjABackflip

Online ordering.

that is the perfect gif for what you were trying to get across.

good on you sir

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Sheye

I don’t understand why it is illegal to give someone some pot you grew ? It’s not illegal to share homemade wine, etc.

It won't be... but you can't sell it to people

The gov gotta get their piece of the pie.... FFS

Yes it will be. The only weed you are legally allowed to possess is weed from the government. Technically if you read the actual laws, admitting you're carrying your own weed you grew will be illegal.

That doesn't make sense... you can grow up to four plants in my province... and can legally possess up to 30g

www.ontario.ca...-5

Possession
Under the Act, the only persons who may possess cannabis are as follows:

1. The government;
2. A person who has an agreement with the government;
3. A person who has a license under the federal Cannabis Act, in accordance with the license;
4. A common carrier transporting cannabis, with authorization under the federal Cannabis Act;
5. A licensee, like a private cannabis retailer, in accordance with the terms of the license;
6. A person who purchased cannabis from a licensed retailer or the government;


7. A person who was given cannabis purchased from a licensed retailer or the government;
8. A person who bought cannabis outside British Columba lawfully and brought it into BC;

a reply to: dug88

And again... that makes no sense...

IF you can grow up to 4 plants which would be for personal use... and its easy to get tons more then 30g from one plant

What do you think they would be expecting us to do with it... surrender it to the government? LOL

There will be no need for a licence to smoke or possess it on your person, as long as its in the legal limit... same as alcohol or tobacco...

And of course you are following the rules set according to your province.

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: dug88

And again... that makes no sense...

IF you can grow up to 4 plants which would be for personal use... and its easy to get tons more then 30g from one plant

What do you think they would be expecting us to do with it... surrender it to the government? LOL

There will be no need for a licence to smoke or possess it on your person, as long as its in the legal limit... same as alcohol or tobacco...

And of course you are following the rules set according to your province.

You're right about one thing. It makes no sense. Honestly i don't really care about the rest of it but the driving laws bother me. There's no way to reliably test the difference between an hour and a few days, it's left up to the discretion of police officers. It's ridiculous it's treated the same way as alcohol. I've driven stoned, hotboxed cars with people and never once felt endangered. I would never think to drive after drinking or get into a car with someone that had.

But all i know is...as of right now...it's illegal to grow weed, possess weed and sell weed and it hasn't stopped a lot of people from openly profiting or benifitting from it....tomorrow...a whole lot more things will be specifically illegal and a lot of people's jobs and livelihoods are at risk. As well as a lot of people who depended on the easy and affordable access of the products offered by the multiple dispenseries that will no longer exist. All i know is, most of the existing places here have cleared out their stock and their staff have left. This is not a win in my books.

Just to add...4 plants takes 3 months (at minimum) to reach maturity (this also doesn't include the month of flushing, trimming, drying and curing that comes after), 4 plants may, depending on the strain, if you're lucky and know how to grow weed well, give you about a pound, then you wait another 3 months. Most people will not get that much from 4 plants, most people will have trouble growing 4 plants from the government provided seeds under the conditions set out. No publicly visible growing means indoor only, this involves dealing with things like mold, ventilation, lighting etc., government seeds means no clones(feminized seeds are not reliable, you can still get males, which means if you don't know what you're doing and you don't notice bye bye all the plants) this all equals more work and investment than most people are willing to put in for such a small return and long waiting period. Ideally, under perfect growing conditions and yield, for personal use, to keep you through a year you'd want probably at least 12 plants. This gives you 4 per growing cycle which is reasonable. You'd stagger the growing so you'd always have a crop ready by the time you run out and allows for problems and unproductive growing. Four plants means you still need to depend on the government.

Growing good, quality weed, or hell even some questionable friend of a friend weed isn't a quick easy magical throw some seeds in a pot of dirt and grow a plant full of drugs process. It requires, money, time and effort even for four plants. Being able to grow 4 plants doesn't really change much at all.

a reply to: dreamingawake
Since I can't correct it:
Sorry, spelling/word meaning was butchered there.


Anyway...

Congrats Canada!

Where I live smoking weed is such a common thing that most petty "crimes" associated with it are just ignored by the general public and law enforcement. When I was a kid it was easier to get a joint than a porno mag! Going to be business as usual here on the island, except for all the suits walking in to the dispensary.


I wanted to touch on the black market thing as well. I feel like the old school weed dealers are always going to be around. I know of people on Texada island who have been perfecting their strains and potencies for generations! They have been dodging big brother for just as long. Ever heard of Texada Time Warp? There is no way that those old hippies are going to pay tax on their crop man. You'll be able to find a gram of sweet sticky for $10 round here for ever I hope.


Also the stoned driving laws..
If the cops don't think you're high they won't test you. Do they breathalyse everyone they pull over? No.


Keep calm and toke on!

a reply to: dug88

Just to add...4 plants takes 3 months to reach maturity (this also doesn't include the month of flushing, trimming, drying and curing that comes after), 4 plants may, if you're lucky and know how to grow weed well, give you about a pound, then you wait another 3 months. Most people will not get that much from 4 plants, most people will have trouble growing 4 plants from the government provided seeds under the conditions set out. No publicly visible growing means indoor only, government seeds means no clones(feminized seeds are not reliable, you can still get males, which means if you don't know what you're doing and you don't notice bye bye all the plants) this all equals more work and investment than most people are willing to put in. Ideally for personal use to keep you through a year you'd want probably about 12 plants. This gives you 4 per growing cycle which is reasonable. You'd stagger the growing so you'd always have a crop ready by the time you run out. Four plants means you still need to depend on the government.

I think we're pushing the limits of what is allowed on the forum here...

In any case 12 plants is a bit ridiculous IF one knows what their doing...

No need for more then One

Half an hour count down... By the way!