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Honduras "Caravan" should be stopped by any means necessary, Trump threatens aid money

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posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Nuke Seattle from orbit.

It's the only way to make sure.


Just make sure it lands on the baseball and football stadiums.


We could just move Seattle to the border, add San Francisco and the poop smell will keep away the invaders.




posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
We could just move Seattle to the border, add San Francisco and the poop smell will keep away the invaders.


I say just stack up all the homeless to barricade them from coming like some modern day Hadrian's Wall.



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The authorities that are not enforcing the current laws are doing such a fine job....

But I understand your position now.
Even the folks fleeing their oppressed countries dont want to go to jersey.



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
The authorities that are not enforcing the current laws are doing such a fine job....


Really? Trump's ICE/Customs agents aren't doing their jobs? What ever shall he do?


But I understand your position now.
Even the folks fleeing their oppressed countries dont want to go to jersey.


I didn't say they didn't want to come here, I was worried that all the brave American patriots between here and the border would have shot their quota before I could get mine. I hope JB saves me some pelts, I need to decorate my mantles.



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Sookiechacha

You cant possibly believe the ten million illegal aliens in the United states are seeking asylum.


What? There's 10 million people in that Guatemalan caravan!?



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: mysterioustranger




Go thru the correct process...and they'd be welcomed


Asylum seekers MUST be on US soil before asking for asylum.


they can't do that at the embassy?



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
they can't do that at the embassy?


It's a popular misconception that embassies and consulates are 'foreign soil', they are not. The Vienna Convention only guarantees 'immunity' for the property located there, i.e., the building, not the property it is located on which still belongs to the host country.




edit on 16-10-2018 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer because a demon stole it



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
they can't do that at the embassy?


It's a popular misconception that embassies and consulates are 'foreign soil', they are not. The Vienna Convention only guarantees 'immunity' for the property located their, i.e., the building, not the property it is located on which still belongs to the host country.


One can apply for refugee status through the UNHCR or at an US embassy or even through a referral from family in the US.



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: RadioRobert
One can apply for refugee status through the UNHCR or at an US embassy or even through a referral from family in the US.


The process being queried was 'asylum' which requires you to be physically in the United States.



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Why haven't they requested asylum in the multiple countries they have already passed through?



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: mysterioustranger



Asylum, yes. Legally applied for immigration from outside the U.S., no.


There is another caravan of assylum seekers, from Honduras, on their way to the USA. There intent is to present themselves at the US Border as asylum seekers. This is the legal way to apply for asylum, because you must be on US soil to do so.

Now, if border agents turn them away, or their path is blocked by terrorist gangs threatenting their lives, then asylum seekers will look for ways to enter the country between border check points. If they are sucessful in entering the US, even through a coyote, they are allowed to present themselves to border control as asylum seekers, as long as they do so within one year of their entry.


To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.
You must apply for asylum within one year of the date of their last arrival in the United States.
www.uscis.gov...




edit on 16-10-2018 by Sookiechacha because: Honduras, not Guatamala....ooops



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

You know how ISIS and Al-Qaeda hide their fighters and weapons among innocent civilians?

Out of 3,000 invaders, how many gang recruits and assorted bad guys do you think are mixed in?

How many of those "innocents" are getting paid to "escort" these "migrants"?



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
Why haven't they requested asylum in the multiple countries they have already passed through?


Why you asking me? Maybe you should ask them.

That's of course before the Original Poster flat blasts them.



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: mysterioustranger




Go thru the correct process...and they'd be welcomed


Asylum seekers MUST be on US soil before asking for asylum.


they can't do that at the embassy?



Can I Apply for Asylum at an American Embassy?

No. You must be physically present in the United States to apply. The distinction between a refugee and an asylee (asylum applicant) is easy to confuse. Both are considered persons who are subject to persecution because of their race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group. Consequently, both types apply for humanitarian relief with the U.S. government. The main difference in processing, however, is where the individual is located. Refugees are located outside of the U.S and outside of their native country. Asylees are already within the U.S. or a port of entry of the U.S. This distinction is important because it affects how and where you can apply for relief.

immigration-law.freeadvice.com...
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posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Why haven't they requested asylum in the multiple countries they have already passed through?


Why you asking me? Maybe you should ask them.

That's of course before the Original Poster flat blasts them.


You seem to have an answer for everything else so I asked you.
Why, in your humble opinion, do the supposed asylum seekers not ask for help in the multiple safe countries that they have passed through?

My thought is that it's not about asylum.



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: mysterioustranger



Asylum, yes. Legally applied for immigration from outside the U.S., no.


There is another caravan of assylum seekers, from Gualtamala, on their way to the USA. There intent is to present themselves at the US Border as asylum seekers. This is the legal way to apply for asylum, because you must be on US soil to do so.

Now, if border agents turn them away, or their path is blocked by terrorist gangs threatenting their lives, then asylum seekers will look for ways to enter the country between border check points. If they are sucessful in entering the US, even through a coyote, they are allowed to present themselves to border control as asylum seekers, as long as they do so within one year of their entry.


To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.
You must apply for asylum within one year of the date of their last arrival in the United States.
www.uscis.gov...





And their request is allowed to be denied. Which is NOT racist or xenophobic or bigoted in any way shape or form.



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak


Border agents are not authorized to deny an asylum seeker's request for asylum. Their claims are adjudicated through the immigration courts.
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posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:47 PM
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Wonder why this migrant fiasco is happening NOW, right before our elections?

I have a good guess.



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:50 PM
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I wonder why the international law that all asylum seekers must make that request in the first nation they enter....in this case Mexico. Why is Mexico allowing them to pass-through unvetted?

Could it be political? Hmmmm???



posted on Oct, 16 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords

The weather has finally turned making such a trek a little bit more bearable?



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