Elizabeth Warren releases DNA results to prove she is partially Native American

a reply to: Sookiechacha

What are you talking about???

Warren claimed "minority status" long before Trump said a word about her!!

Get your facts straight!

ETA - In fact, it was this allegation which motivated Trump to make the statement he did!

a reply to: Sublimecraft


Is that right? Oh, man, this got even better.

1/1024, you get that just from watching a western.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

This whole thread, like the topic, is a joke.

The whole political climate has been batsh** crazy for some time now... Seeing as it's unlikely to change, I'm going to at least laugh at it. I suggest you do the same.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Justoneman
Her native born family members told us my wife was not considered to have enough Indian blood to be allowed in the tribe.

Then she's part of the wrong tribe and should find another!

I married an Evil Joo so her family jokes that I am part of the Tribe by injection.

Oh, I have to like that laugh you just gave me. I am so glad I read it after my coffee was down the hatch.

a reply to: CriticalStinker


But muh Injun blood!

One time I drove past a horse farm and an indian casino.

In the same DAY!

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Cowboys can't do fractions...you should know that!

They lose too many digits trying!

originally posted by: DBCowboy
One time I drove past a horse farm and an indian casino.

In the same DAY!

I heard you're banned from the free buffet feeding trough at both locations.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: DBCowboy
One time I drove past a horse farm and an indian casino.

In the same DAY!

I heard you're banned from the free buffet feeding trough at both locations.

Maybe, but they still give me a "to-go" bucket when I'm in town.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

What's funny is Warren's claim that, by mocking her claim (which is still worth mocking at this point), Trump is mocking Native Americans as a racial group.

In the video, Warren also denounced Trump’s purposes for continuing to elevate the issue.

“Trump can say whatever he wants about me, but mocking Native Americans or any group in order to try and get at me ― that’s not what America stands for,” Warren said.

What a joke.

Furthermore, when you go to the original story at the Boston Globe, it notes this:

Detecting DNA for Native Americans is particularly tricky because there is an absence of Native American DNA available for comparison. This is in part because Native American leaders have asked tribal members not to participate in genetic databases.

“The tribes have felt they have been exploited,” explained Lawrence Brody, a senior investigator with the Medical Genomics and Metabolic Genetics Branch at the National Institutes of Health. “The amount of genetic data that is available from Native Americans is sparse.”

To make up for the dearth of Native American DNA, Bustamante used samples from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia to stand in for Native American. That’s because scientists believe that the groups Americans refer to as Native American came to this land via the Bering Strait about 12,000 years ago and settled in what’s now America but also migrated further south. His report explained that the use of reference populations whose genetic material has been fully sequenced was designed “for maximal accuracy.”

So, what has been identified is NOT Native American genetic markers, but Central and South American genetic markers--they simply make the assumptive link that Native Americans would share these same genetic markers, therefore they must be attributed to Native Americans as well.

This isn't really how science works--this is spun science based on assumptions based on theories. What should be getting reported is that Warren has a couple genetic markers that align with native Central and South American populations, and that this scientist (and many others) BELIEVE that these markers would be shared by Native Americans in the U.S., too...assuming that both populations took the same route into North and South America during migrations.

The problem therein lies with the reality that there are many scientific white papers that show evidence that the Bering Land Bridge migration may not account for all of the ancient populations in the Americas, so it would seem rather silly to share this DNA result with the public, as if it actually proves her claim. (It does add a small bit of scientific weight to the family's oral tradition, though)

Here is an interesting reality of how one is officially considered Native American (it depends on the rules of each nation): Indian Country Today. It notes that the two nations/tribes that Warren's family claims only require "Lineal Descent" to be officially accepted by the tribes (Cherokee and Delaware). Of course, if I'm reading the Boston Globe article correctly, it appears that there is not a sure-fire way to determine the genealogy of specific tribes, let alone to even narrow the genetic markers down to be "just" Native American.

I could be wrong, though, and maybe she can prove that and the tribes will approve her Native-American status (apparently the only way to be "officially" Native American...to be recognized by the tribe(s)).

It would be intelligent, though, for Trump to drop his immature nickname for her, though, and act a bit more mature in regard to talking about other people. And that goes across the board with him.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
One time I drove past a horse farm and an indian casino.

Mr cultural appropriation - that's your new name from now on.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
Mr cultural appropriation - that's your new name from now on.

That's an upgrade from Mister I Think I Have Gout, Again.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: DBCowboy
One time I drove past a horse farm and an indian casino.

In the same DAY!

I heard you're banned from the free buffet feeding trough at both locations.

Maybe, but they still give me a "to-go" bucket when I'm in town.

Yea but why do I expect to be from the south end of a north bound horse. Hors D'oeuvres anyone?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

You are right, and I worded it incorrectly, it was 5 generation, it was his great great grandmother.
She was close to 100 and he was a few months old. I was lucky enough to capture a photo of them together.


That is the question I am asking, Did she claim minority status? According to what I've read, she didn't.

and btw, no free stuff for you!

a reply to: Justoneman

Correction - That's "Horse D'oeuvres"!

I'm somewhere between 1/4 and 1/8 indian.............. and I don't consider myself "Native American" by any means.

Someone needs to find this woman out and about in public and slap the $h!t out of her.

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

You are right, and I worded it incorrectly, it was 5 generation, it was his great great grandmother.
She was close to 100 and he was a few months old. I was lucky enough to capture a photo of them together.


That is the question I am asking, Did she claim minority status? According to what I've read, she didn't.

and btw, no free stuff for you!

Well, what i recall was that she received the Native American or person of Color declaration at Penn.
www.nationalreview.com...

The University of Pennsylvania “listed her as a minority faculty member,” and she was touted after her hire at Harvard Law School as, yes, the school’s “first woman of color.”

I have a 100% pure-blood Italian grandfather and a 100% pure-blood German grandmother on my mother's side.

On my father's side, my uncle did a genealogy report and it shows them being 85% British, with a bird-shot spread of other things.

I claim being American. Call me silly.

originally posted by: dothedew
I'm somewhere between 1/4 and 1/8 indian.............. and I don't consider myself "Native American" by any means.

Someone needs to find this woman out and about in public and slap the $h!t out of her.

You meant to say "figuratively" I am sure.

The percentage of her Native American blood is a bit laughable. I'd argue that you definitely shouldn't get minority status from that small of a percentage. We're talking a couple hundred years ago.

HOWEVER, as much as it pains me to say it: She was right. He was wrong. How many times did he say that she doesn't have Native American heritage? How many times, on here, did we agree, that it's ridiculous to think that, "she's so white", etc? She never made claim (that I'm aware of) of an actual percentage of her Native American heritage, just that she had it in her blood. And, it turns out that she does.

I'm a big fan of "put up or shut up". She just put up. Now Trump has to. But no, he's now saying that he never said he'd put up $1 million to charity and "who cares?". He lost, he needs to own it rather than deflecting. Yes, the percentage is small. But, if you win a basketball game 122-121, you still won, regardless of how small the win percentage was.

www.cnn.com...
(I know what we all think of cnn, but the link does contain the actual quote from Trump)

So, in all fairness, it's now time for him to shut up since he won't put up, i.e., no more "Pocahontas" talk. She brought it, he won't match her, therefore game over for him, he doesn't get to make fun of her anymore.