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Elizabeth Warren releases DNA results to prove she is partially Native American

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posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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originally posted by: Fools
I did a 23 and me deal because they had a 50% off sale a while back. According to 32 and Google me, I was really European and a little tiny bit black, I think 3 percent or so. But ZERO native American. I found this odd because my great grandmother on my fathers side was definitely 1/2 Cherokee. She lived until 1996 and had docs to prove it as well as pictures of her mother from around 1920 or so that show she looked about as 100 percent American Indian as someone possibly could.

(and for those of you that don't know the sad reality of this, my great grandmother was actually ashamed of it. It was not anything she would brag about.)

Because of this, I wonder how good these genetic tests actually are.

BTW, I have never used my documented Indian blood to get any benefits anywhere at anytime nor do I intend to. Unless the Cherokee of Missouri are allowed to open a casino..then I might change my mind. :-)


If you can prove you're 3% black...is it okay for you to use the 'N' word?




posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:44 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha


Now, let's see if "Trump the Birther"will pay up!


A bet is a bet.

There were no minimum amounts decided so he should pay up.

That said both sides on this (Trump and Warren) made a mockery out of this.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:45 AM
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I think a few Hispanic people will disagree with you.
Didn’t everyone walk over together from Mongolia?
a reply to: galaga



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:45 AM
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a reply to: Fools




I found this odd because my great grandmother on my fathers side was definitely 1/2 Cherokee.



Read the article Neo96 posted, pretty much explains it.
www.newscientist.com...



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:46 AM
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posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:47 AM
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Unless some one did the hanky panky with someone else not stated in your genealogy. Snuck right in if you know what I mean.

a reply to: Fools



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: Fools


Because of this, I wonder how good these genetic tests actually are.


Most people think that if your Grandmother is 100% something, that makes her child 50%, and you 25%.

However that's not how genetics work. Different genes will be selected for your makeup based off of a few different reasons. Hence why you can have a black sheep in the family who looks like no one, or have a daughter that has a striking resemblance to a grandmother or great grandmother.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: IAMNOTYOU


Iam from scandinavia, and as white as milk, but i got proof that iam really from africa


Sorry, I can't follow.

Per HuffPo rules, whiteness gauging is either with Great Britain, or people of Utah. Could you possibly translate it into those terms so our readers can understand?


Well, we are even now, i said i had superb logic skills, not a brain


Are you asking me if iam white like a person from Uk or like someone from Utah?

You got to understand, that the milk i buy, is kind of brown and with chocolade in it. And actually iam more reddish in colour right now, because of the wild summer we had, and i never seems to get a real tan.

In short, iam gonna pick the Utah option



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:53 AM
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originally posted by: Fools
I did a 23 and me deal because they had a 50% off sale a while back. According to 32 and Google me, I was really European and a little tiny bit black, I think 3 percent or so. But ZERO native American. I found this odd because my great grandmother on my fathers side was definitely 1/2 Cherokee. She lived until 1996 and had docs to prove it as well as pictures of her mother from around 1920 or so that show she looked about as 100 percent American Indian as someone possibly could.

(and for those of you that don't know the sad reality of this, my great grandmother was actually ashamed of it. It was not anything she would brag about.)

Because of this, I wonder how good these genetic tests actually are.

BTW, I have never used my documented Indian blood to get any benefits anywhere at anytime nor do I intend to. Unless the Cherokee of Missouri are allowed to open a casino..then I might change my mind. :-)



My mom just had her DNA processed by Ancestry dot com. Growing up, we thought we were part Greek. My mom is white, like so white she has a green tinge to her skin tone. Lol. Well, anyway, she came back with 30% native American. But what weirded us out is that there was no Greek, but 26% Portuguese. I had never known a Portuguese person in our family at all. The rest was Spanish, French and Euro Jew.

Here is the Bizarro part. She also had 2% Basque. And is RH Negative.

I think DNA is passed on differently between people. You can have alot, or none at all.
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posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:54 AM
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The real issue with Elizabeth Warren



Here's the deal with Elizabeth Warren's Native American heritage

www.cnn.com...

Harvard Law School in the 1990s touted Warren, then a professor in Cambridge, as being "Native American." They singled her out, Warren later acknowledged, because she had listed herself as a minority in an Association of American Law Schools directory.




www.cnn.com...

In that account and others, a genealogist traced Warren's Native American heritage to the late 19th century, which, if true, would make her 1/32 Native American. (However, the legitimacy of those findings has been debated.)




www.cnn.com...

Warren's earlier musings on the "high cheekbones" of certain close family members didn't exactly satisfy the skeptics (and made some allies wince).


The issue, does the DNA testing back her use of labeling herself Native American, and her family’s time line of folklore.

I don’t thank it does.
edit on 15-10-2018 by neutronflux because: Added and fixed



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: TinySickTears

Unless that DNA test was administered as a urine test.

Nothing was proven.



Can you explain please?
Thanks



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:58 AM
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In the end.

The only people's say that matters is full blood natives.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

Thought it was rather self explanatory.

There's no way to know if Warren took a sample or someone else did for her.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

At the very least, you can apply for tenure at Harvard and if you play the cards right at a casino, then donate a majority of your winnings to Harvard, they will put your name on a janitors closet sink



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 09:04 AM
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What we do know without any RESERVATION.



She looks WHITE as Ford.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: DJMSN
At the very least, you can apply for tenure at Harvard and if you play the cards right at a casino, then donate a majority of your winnings to Harvard, they will put your name on a janitors closet sink


Better than the post office wall where it is now.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: TinySickTears

Thought it was rather self explanatory.

There's no way to know if Warren took a sample or someone else did for her.


Well it wasn't which is why I asked.

So we can get a person's ancestry from their piss?

It really don't matter.
Trump would never pay up.

He will just roll it into his next bankruptcy.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker



That said both sides on this (Trump and Warren) made a mockery out of this.


How did Elizabeth Warren make a mockery of her ancestry? This "dirt" was something that was dredged up from some form she filled out, like 25 years ago, in order to make a mockery of her!

elizabethwarrenwiki.org...

It looks to me like Harvard exploited her as a woman and a Native American then, just like Trump is doing now by mocking her ancestry.

You want to know a little about Donald Trump's history? Just as John Barron, John Miller or David Dennison!

PERSPECTIVE! The only one making a big deal out of Elizabeth Warren's family tree is Donald Trump and his followers, who desparately cling to racist mockery as a political tool.





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posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 09:10 AM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
Well it wasn't which is why I asked.

So we can get a person's ancestry from their piss?

It really don't matter.
Trump would never pay up.

He will just roll it into his next bankruptcy.


I can see them becoming really good friends now. With only 1/512 Native American ancestry he can't call her 'Pocahontas' anymore, and should probably, due to the limited amount of DNA, just shorten it to 'P'.


And we all know how he feels about that....



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: neo96

I don't think that meme is necessarily fair or true:


www.politifact.com...
"Warren’s central offense dates back to the mid 1980s, when she first formally notified law school administrators that her family tree includes Native Americans. Warren said she grew up with family stories about both grandparents on her mother’s side having some Cherokee or Delaware blood."

"Asked about Warren’s minority status, Robert H. Mundheim, the dean who hired Warren at the University of Pennsylvania, told the Boston Globe that summer, "‘I don't think I ever knew that she had those attributes and that would not have made much of a difference."

I think the main question is, Did Warren get any advantage to claiming Native American roots? I don't think there is any evidence she did. There is a lot of evidence to the contrary.



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