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What Does CALEXIT, The Liberal Secession Movement, Holder, and Russia have in Common?

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posted on Oct, 14 2018 @ 11:10 PM
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By now most of you are aware that there are many, mostly Democrats and Liberals, who want to secede from the U.S. because of POTUS Trump.
But what many of you might not be aware of, or might not want to admit, is that the secession movement of Liberals are all tied together to Russia and the Russian government.

Yep, the same people who claim POTUS Trump is colluding with Russia are the ones actually colluding with, and working with Russia.
BTW, there are other secession movements from the right but they have no link to Russia as far as I am aware.

The Liberal CALEXIT movement was started by progressive Louis J. Marinelli. In fact Marinelli left a message on the "Yes California Independence Campaign" website stating he didn't want to live in the U.S., and would rather live in Russia. Here is his comment:

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“I do not wish to live under the American political system or within the American economic system.”
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www.huffingtonpost.com...

What's more Marinelli has stated with his actions and claims, is that "Russia" is a more progressive nation than the U.S.

Marinelli, who was born in Buffalo, New York also wrote on the CALEXIT website his disillusion with the U.S. and it's system, and indicated that one day he would return to

“occupied California to struggle for her independence from the United States so we could build the kind of country that reflects our progressive values,”


According to that same Huff article Marinelli also stated that none other than Vladimir Putin is "helping American secession movements."

Of course, Marinelli then sets off on a rant on how he thinks the U.S. deserves it because we have been doing it to Russia and others... But Marinelli leaves out the fact that the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, etc, etc, have all been trying to do the same thing to the U.S. for decades. It's the reason why the left in the U.S. have turned "socialist/communist," including the progressives.

Since marinelli, a progressive, wants to live in Russia instead of in the U.S. it's obvious he thinks Russia is a more "progressive" nation.

Now, what does Eric Holder have to do with all of this? Well, he is the representative and official speaker of the "Yes California Independence Campaign," better known as CALEXIT. But hey, it's POTUS Trump who is colluding with Russia right?...

CALEXIT's embassy was opened in Moscow Russia...


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The group claims the right to self-determination as protected under the U.N. Charter and has already lifted concerns to the international stage by opening anembassy in Moscow last December.
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www.cbsnews.com...

Then there is the fact that Eric Holder, alongside many other "progressives," is also working with none other than Obama to stop POTUS Trump.

Obama and his administration, including Hillary, did more to help Russia than POTUS Trump has done.

Eric Holder is also working with California, and i quote:


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In addition to Attorney General Becerra’s guidance, California has hired former United States Attorney General Eric Holder as legal representation, and is actively preparing for war on issues of health care, immigration, and the environment.
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www.cbsnews.com...

Yet to this day, despite the fact that "progressives" are working to this day in tandem with the Russian government to break up the U.S., the left keeps claiming that "the right ,and Trump are the ones colluding with Russia...


edit on 14-10-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.




posted on Oct, 14 2018 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse


I think it's China that has Cali wrapped up in pretty paper. Look at the money that comes into California in it's ports from China! Feinstein had a Chinese spy working for her for years...… Russia??? Nahhhhhh, China owns the government of California.



posted on Oct, 14 2018 @ 11:18 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

China and Russia are allies, and the U.S. is their main enemy. There is no doubt China also wants this to happen. A broken up U.S. is a weaker enemy.



posted on Oct, 14 2018 @ 11:18 PM
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Oh look, it's the flame leading us to Solar Plexus Monday. Thanks, flame!



posted on Oct, 14 2018 @ 11:25 PM
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Some people in California have been trying to get California to exit the US for a long time. They believe they will do better, buying from China and selling the products to the rest of us. New York has the same feeling, they can control our money by seperating. They will not be bound by the laws of the USA if they form another nation, they can make laws that stop being prosecuted from making excessive profits on stuff they export to the smaller US



posted on Oct, 14 2018 @ 11:38 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Not everyone in California feels this way. The most sensible outcome is to break California in two. The people in Cali who still want to have American values, and rights can stay in the union, and the progressives who work for, and with Putin can have their own piece of California. Then we shall see how fast the "progressive California" is controlled by Russia and/or China and let's see how much "progressives' would love being under the yoke of Russia/China.

edit on 14-10-2018 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Oct, 14 2018 @ 11:52 PM
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Will the last American out of California please remember to bring the flag .



posted on Oct, 14 2018 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Hey.. If Texas secceeds, is that called TEXIT?




posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 12:24 AM
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posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 01:04 AM
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If California secedes they should get the same treatment South Carolina got when they tried it.

Payback is a motherf#.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 02:19 AM
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To Hades with Calexit
We need to go full Calbootit



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 02:54 AM
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While I could get behind one of the plans that would break California into 3 or 4 States. No state will be allowed to secede, it was already tried and failed.

I think some of these fears are unfounded, for California to be "under the yolk" of Russia/China that would require a military presence which would never be allowed to happen.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 04:13 AM
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Let em go. Then send in the military to round up and arrest the perps for treason. There wouldnt even be a shot fired cuz they hate guns. Then open up alcatraz and call it a safe space for traitors.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 04:22 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yeah. In normal times, when things like this happen, alot of people die or go to jail forever.

Let me know when we get to the shooting of the other side.

What else would come from a foreign sponsored separatist movement?

edit on 10 15 2018 by tadaman because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 06:02 AM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
While I could get behind one of the plans that would break California into 3 or 4 States. No state will be allowed to secede, it was already tried and failed.

I think some of these fears are unfounded, for California to be "under the yolk" of Russia/China that would require a military presence which would never be allowed to happen.


If California broke up into 4 states they would gain 6 new Senators, that’s not good.

I would like to see the country of California negotiating a trade deal with President Trump. The US could make a fortune on export taxes on water and electricity.
edit on 15-10-2018 by Nickn3 because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 06:24 AM
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With Cali gone and the exodus for people to move there, the US would have a serious shortage of crazy.

Let’s get to work on that Cali Wall.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 09:31 AM
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If they secede, then we can invade and take California back from the illegals, cartels, and corrupt politicians. Sounds like a win-win.



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

They also ignore the fact the state of California cant just hold a vote to leave. Texas vs. White requires not only for a state to vote to leave the Union, it also requires the remaining population / states to also vote in favor of it.

A state cannot unilaterally leave the Union.

California also cant just decide on its own to break itself into smaller states. California law requires the state government to draft legislation to break into smaller states. The Governor must sign it and then it must be voted on and approved by the California population. If its successful it then goes to Congress, who in turn makes the final decision.

Long story short California is not going anywhere.

Ironically Democrats would know the requirements if they bothered to read the Constitution and learn about the Civil war and its aftermath. If California tries to leave unilaterally then they will force the President into declaring the state of California in a state of rebellion/insurrection. Their guard units would be federalized to put down the rebellion/insurrection.
edit on 15-10-2018 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 10:13 AM
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Like rickymouse said, the CALEXIT movement has been around for a while. Just cause one guy said some crap about Russia doesn't mean that the movement is tied with RU.

Not to mention that the dems and libs are stuck in 1985 and still percieve Russia as this evil empire of sorts.

Also, is that CALI-Embassy even legitimate? I think Sealand has more legit embassies



posted on Oct, 15 2018 @ 06:28 PM
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a reply to: PrototypeToaster

It isn't just one guy. Remember that Eric Holder is the representative and speaker for CALEXIT. The same Holder who is working with Obama, and former Obama officials alongside implanted people in various branches of the government, to stop POTUS Trump and his MAGA agenda.

You also forget that the article from the Huff, states Putin is helping all these secession movements, which sprung up after Trump became POTUS.




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